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dawgstudent

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MSU at 44.9% of rushing attempts by RB. 13th place is 64.7% by A&M. Fitzgerald accounts for 45.1% by himself.

Fitzgerald had 25% last year.
 

coach66

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As I have consistently said, Fitz trying to do too much himself.

but Moorhead should have corrected Fitz or sat him down.
 
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TrapGame.sixpack

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Fitz is keeping the ball when he should handing it off. It cost us 7 at LSU b/c he was supposed to give to Aeris but kept it and got stuffed. Nick should be handing the ball off every time unless it's a designed run.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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I think for this offense to be really successful with the talents we have and use their talents completely, we need to be hitting that 70-75 percent mark. Fitz should only be hitting about 25-30. I also think we are misusing the talents of a lot of our slot backs. A lot of those guys were recruited to get the ball in space on a screen or jet sweeps. The carries are all way too low with the run game. I think a lot of Fit'z carries have been on scrambles that were designed pass plays.
 

DAWG61

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Worst thing for our season this year was Fitz being so close to breaking Tebow's record. He's absolutely rushed way more than he should because of that record which is now his record to pad. He's gonna get his record as high as he can so it lasts as long as it can. Not sure I blame him either for doing that after Ole Miss broke his ankle and Mullen bitched out on him.
 

RocketDawg

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[h=2]As I have consistently said, Fitz trying to do too much himself.[/h]but Moorhead should have corrected Fitz or sat him down.

Or could he be merely going for a rushing record? Hopefully it's not that at the expense of the team's performance.
 

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MSU at 44.9% of rushing attempts by RB. 13th place is 64.7% by A&M. Fitzgerald accounts for 45.1% by himself.

Fitzgerald had 25% last year.

If I were a defense last year, I would have coached my defense to get the ball out of Fitz's hand most of the time as I saw him as the most dangerous runner on our team. This year, Fitz has lost a little step and Kylin has shown big play potential. As I've alluded to on other posts, a defense can determine to shut down certain parts of any option offense and decide where they will fight their battle. If I were a DC playing state this year, I would coach my D to make Fitz run or throw every down. I would take away the back option and win or lose on Fitz ability to beat me.
 

Shmuley

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DS, one thing you can absolutely count on happening is the following: at a critical juncture in the egg bowl, with the outcome of the game on the line, Fitz will inexplicably choose to hand the ball to either Hill or Aeris, resulting in a negative play and costing us the game, when the result of his keeping it instead would have resulted in a win. Book it.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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true. not to mention that I doubt he makes a roster as an NFL qb so he's trying to make a lasting legacy for himself which is well deserved because he earned. I just wish he wasn't rushing at the expense of our running backs getting the ball in places that they could have taken off or scored.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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that or it's third and short or 3rd and goal and we decide to call a qb run and he stutter steps and just doesn't go for it after the snap. He has been taking way too long this year for the hole to open on short yardage. just got to go for it. not sure if it's being timid for injury or if that's what he being taught to do now. gets him caught in the back field every time.
 

MSUDC11

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It would be one thing if this were 2015 and our RB’s were Holloway and Shumphert. But even as one of Moorhead’s biggest defenders this season, I have a really hard time understanding why Kylin and Aeris have gotten so few touches.
 

Seinfeld

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Yep, can't even begin to say how sick I am hearing that Fitz is the problem. Fitz is what Fitz is

If he cannot run Moorhead's vision of the RPO, then it's Moorhead's job to teach him properly, find a QB that can run it, or else adjust. I don't really care which one he does at this point, but our crap offense is not Fitz's fault.
 

muddawgs

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And that’s why I have zero faith in Morehead. We have two of the top RBs in the conference and they don’t even get the 17ing football. If Fitz read the defense as he should be doing, we would probably have two RB’s close to a 1000 yards this year. Instead we got two RB’s averaging over 6 yards a carry and neither one will rush for over a 1000 yards. Ridiculous.
 

maroonmania

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How about Joe just calling a designed running play?!

Are we running 100% RPOs?

We do have designed running plays. Apparently they are used inside the opponent's 5 yard line. We only have one play there which is a direct QB run with no other options.
 

cheewgumm

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Fitz is the problem?!??

Give
Me
A
Break

That’s ludicrous.

Why didn’t he hog the ball last year then?
Why doesn’t the coach call designed runs?
Why don’t they sit him if he doesn’t give it ( as Hadad mentioned on his show)?

This argument doesn’t hold water, even a little.
 

WutheringDawg

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Do you think Moorhead has scrapped his philosophy regarding RB vs. QB as the primary carrier prior to this year? Becaus he’s never had a quarterback be the leading ball carrier on a team prior to 2018. That’s at Penn State and Fordham, looked it up recently and most seasons a single bell cow RB got the majority of available carries. Usually a single guy is about 100~ carries or more out ahead of everyone.

This makes two out of three seasons where Fitzgerald is the primary ball carrier (2018 & 2016) under two separate coaches. But I’m sure it’s not his fault.
 

cheewgumm

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You think who carries the ball ia not up to the coach but just depends on what the QB wants to do.

And Moorhead who is paid $3m would just let this stand with his job on the line?

So Moorhead really wants Hill to get the ball but Fitzgerald wants to carry it himself so there’s just nothing Moorhead can do about it?

If that’s the case we need to make Fitz the head coach not Moorhead.
 

WutheringDawg

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So is that a yes? All I’m saying is that it’s not 100% on Moorhead - he’s going to run an option offense and it’s going to require the quarterback to make a read. Fitz has show that he can read the run option successfully, Moorhead has proven over time that he doesn’t run an offense that is predicated on a QB as the primary runner.

Moorhead wants him to make the correct read. He’s not - and yeah it’s on Moorhead to yank him I suppose.

Fitz is Rick Ankiel this year, he needs a sports psychologist or a big fat doobie or a slump buster but it seems like the problem is between his ears. Unless you think that Moorhead is coaching him to keep the ball as much as he has.
 

MSUDawgFan86

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Yep, can't even begin to say how sick I am hearing that Fitz is the problem. Fitz is what Fitz is

If he cannot run Moorhead's vision of the RPO, then it's Moorhead's job to teach him properly, find a QB that can run it, or else adjust. I don't really care which one he does at this point, but our crap offense is not Fitz's fault.

Um yeah well you have the right to be wrong. He’s the majority of the problem. Terrible decision making ability as a QB.
 

DancingRabbit

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I love Fitz. He's a warrior, but his decision-making has been perplexing.

I guess it's more on Joe, but it's the inconsistency that's maddening. Nick can make two bad reads/throws, then makes a play to bail us out and the receiver drops the ball. Yes, he's appeared to be ball-hogging at times, but maybe it's just mis-reads and tentativeness. That injury did take a toll.

I'd like to see KT mixed in the gameplan the last 2 games to get a read on him, but we need to support Fitz as he finishes out his career.

Yep, can't even begin to say how sick I am hearing that Fitz is the problem. Fitz is what Fitz is

If he cannot run Moorhead's vision of the RPO, then it's Moorhead's job to teach him properly, find a QB that can run it, or else adjust. I don't really care which one he does at this point, but our crap offense is not Fitz's fault.
 

cheewgumm

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If you believe Joe doesn’t want Fitz to carry the ball this much but Fitz dies it anyway, then you should want Moorhead fired.

That means he has no control over his offense and it will always be at the whim of the QB. Also it means even if Moorhead doesn’t like what the QB does he can’t / won’t change
it.

We’ve be through 10 games. If he doesn’t like what’s happening he should change it. He’s the head coach.
 

patdog

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[TWEET]1062798834189959168[/TWEET]Fitzgerald accounts for 45.1% by himself.

Fitzgerald had 25% last year.
This stat isn't surprising, and is the biggest problem with our offense. Fitz is keeping the ball almost twice as often as he should.
 

msstate7

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From reading this thread, all we need is to get rid of fitz. Fitz is obviously terrible. I mean look at his espn qbr rating, 57.5 (74th in the country). Yeah, sure he was 77.4 (#19 in the country) in 2016 and 78.5 (13th in the country) in 2017, but fitz is just a ball hog and the root of all our offensive troubles this season.
 
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cheewgumm

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It’s amazing watching the change.

Anger
Rationalization
Justification
Celebration

Moorhead is getting coach of the year soon.

It’s wild to watch.

“Don’t believe your lying eyes. Our offense is great! We are right on schedule!”

Ok.
 

thatsbaseball

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People keep trying to pin this problem on Fitz OR Morehead when the truth is both of them are responsible. Fitz obviously dosen't think well on his feet and has a skull thick as a brick and Morehead obviously doesn't have what it takes to coach hard headed/dumbassed players I.E. leadership. One is about to graduate and move on (Ta Dahhh...half of problem solved) and the other will still be here trying to learn how to be a head coach while becoming a millionaire on our dime (Oops).
 

codeDawg

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I would take away the back option and win or lose on Fitz ability to beat me.

This is exactly what is going on. When he does give it up, the option is so wide open we have a good YPC. When he should make the back grind for a yard or two, he’s the one eating it. Hill has a better chance of getting free that Nick, but Nick just wants to make a play. Couple all of this with **** blocking and you have what we have.
 

Seinfeld

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By your logic, if Tom Brady decides to retire this offseason, and the Patriots feel that Nathan Peterman is their guy, it will be all Peterman’s fault when the offense turns to crap next season.

No one is arguing that Fitz is having a great season, that he’s making the right reads, or that he even has a clue as to how to run an RPO. What I am arguing is that by the time you’re 10 games into the season, and Fitz is still our starter while having the exact same issues as the ones we witnessed against Kentucky two months ago, the fault lies with Moorhead one way or another

I don’t know why you’re so hell bent on throwing an individual player under the bus that has shown at no point that he can properly run Moorhead’s scheme
 

cheewgumm

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The argument that it’s Fitz is so silly.

If Moorhead wanted Hill and Williams to get the ball they’d get it. And if he’d watch 10’games of this with his job at stake and no change it he needs to be fired.

Imagine the offensive meetings:

Moorhead:” I want Hill to have 20 carries this game.”
Fitz: “ Sorry coach not happening this game. I feel it.”
Moorhead: “Oh well,ok. Sigh.”


Note I am not calling for him to be fired.

Just silly.
 
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