NCAA TO OLE MISS: No WAY!
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They actually got what they wanted. The ncaa overturned the unofficial visit limitations. They won’t have any restrictions on unofficial visits. NCAA is totally gutless. I’d say it’s open season on dirty recruiting from here on out.
The cloud of the NCAA investigation was way worse than the sanctions. Only actual damage done was really the investigative work by Steve Robertson that led to Hugh Freeze being fired. If Steve hadn't gone thru those phone records Ole Miss would still be clipping along full blast. Pretty amazing how light the actual penalties were given the stuff that went on with that 2013 signing class.
Watch their defense this year and their team the next two years. This is part of the punishment too.
Big victory for the Rebels with the Unofficial Visits. BIG. The Network is already back at work... prediction: Ole Miss is about to blow JoMo away in in-state recruiting.
The NCAA is more than gutless. They are d!ckless.
The NCAA is more than gutless. They are d!ckless.
I think you meant “official visits”. Recruits can visit unofficially whenever and however many times they want. The only exception is the dead period where they can’t talk to any coaches. There is absolutely no way whatsoever for the NCAA to regulate unofficial visits.
This is what I don’t understand when people claim the cheating was worth it and we should start doing the same. They’ve lost 10s of millions of dollars in bowl revenues, will probably go 3-5 years without winning more than 6 games, and remain on probation and at risk for repeat offender status. Meanwhile, we’re about to go to our 9th straight bowl game, have a slightly better record than Ole Miss over the period that’s been investigated, and have a strong foundation to continue to build on. Sure the penalties weren’t as bad as everyone expected, but the way we’ve operated appears better for long term success.
No, the penalty was in fact for unofficial visits. And it's exactly as you say, the NCAA has no way of effectively monitoring or enforcing them. This penalty was meaningless from the the beginning.
Better check your facts there. OM was limited on “unofficial” visits in their sanctions. They contested this in their appeal. And it was overturned.
If you don’t think the cloud of this investigation hurt that program you might be the biggest State homer ever.
But there won't be any punishment in the future. The cloud hurt them this time, but next time they'll be able to honesty say the NCAA won't do anything to them and not to worry about the investigation.
Exactly where did I say that the cloud of the investigation didn’t hurt OM? I’ll hang up and listen
Oh, there's no place like home for the holidays
'Cause no matter how far away you roam
When you pine for the old segregation days
For the holidays you can't beat home sweet home!
I met a man who lived in Arkansas, and he was headin' fo'
Oxford Miss and some strange at High Cotton
From Oxford Miss calls are going
Down to Tampa's greatest ho
From Atlantic to Pacific
Gee the crootin' was terrific!
Oh, there's no place like home for the holidays
'Cause no matter how far away you roam
When you're 17ed by the NCAA in a million ways
For the holidays you can't beat home sweet home!
I met a boy who lived in Brookhaven and he was headin' to
Rebel Rags for some swanky rebel gear
From Rebel Rags to the NCAA
Leo's words were determined true
With lost scholly's and official visits
Gee, the sanctions are terrific.
'Cause no matter how far away you roam
When you pine for the old segregation days
For the holidays you can't beat home sweet home!
I met a man who lived in Arkansas, and he was headin' fo'
Oxford Miss and some strange at High Cotton
From Oxford Miss calls are going
Down to Tampa's greatest ho
From Atlantic to Pacific
Gee the crootin' was terrific!
Oh, there's no place like home for the holidays
'Cause no matter how far away you roam
When you're 17ed by the NCAA in a million ways
For the holidays you can't beat home sweet home!
I met a boy who lived in Brookhaven and he was headin' to
Rebel Rags for some swanky rebel gear
From Rebel Rags to the NCAA
Leo's words were determined true
With lost scholly's and official visits
Gee, the sanctions are terrific.
Cheating is worth it. Just not the way those morons cheated. We Could have paid Cam Newton and AJ Brown and no one would have cared or said ****. That’s where our Cigar Boys are idiots. The NCAA has proven time and again they are spineless and won’t do anything of any value to a football school. Ole miss practically spit in their face and they gave them a slap on the wrist.
You may be right, but I’m responding to people who suggest we need to start cheating like Ole Miss did. I also have no idea what we do or do not do in terms of paying players, but whatever we’ve done seems way better for long term success than what Ole Miss was doing.
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So a multi-year investigation that pretty much wrecked their football program is "actually... what they wanted"?
If Cam Newton had been paid, it’s a national championship season. That would have helped recruiting present and future. So at first I didn’t like the thought of paying, but these other schools seem to know how to get it done - I guess and then they win national championships with the players they buy! And don’t get caught! They never seem to get touched or in trouble but only reap huge financial and PR rewards.
Someone see somthing different? I’m listening with both ears and eager to learn.
Someone see somthing different? I’m listening with both ears and eager to learn.
I’m fairly certain they wanted the unofficial visit restrictions overturned. They were fine with the bowl ban. Sort of ask for the stars and accept the moon. So. Yeah.
If you think Cam would have been instantly re-instated if he had played for us you are just down right stupid. He would never have played a down for us if we had payed him. That is a FACT.
They are extremely fortunate to not be hit harder on recruiting. They avoided massive scholarship reductions. The unofficial visit restriction was the most meaningful recruiting restriction. Now it is lifted. Of course, Mississippi fans will say they got hammered with a bowl ban because everyone is jealous of the Grove and Big Bad Breakfast.
The multi-year investigation did not hurt the program as much as Hugh Freeze' and their administration's handling of the multi-year investigation. The bastards got off LIGHT and no amount of blah blah can change that. Done deal !
The results that we are seeing on the field would suggest otherwise, but who am I to try and sway a homer.
The silver lining is the LOIC stands and if Ole Miss has as much as a level 1
violation in the next two years it could cost them dearly. They also lose another years work of Bowl Revenue which I think was around 10Million last year. I think they may get the bowl revenue back in two years if they stay clean.
violation in the next two years it could cost them dearly. They also lose another years work of Bowl Revenue which I think was around 10Million last year. I think they may get the bowl revenue back in two years if they stay clean.
They will be back in bidness by the 2020 season. It will be like ServePro - like it never even happened.
I think they really wanted 2nd bowl ban lifted as well. Too many positives for them if they got to go to a bowl game this season.
Flipped over to Head to Head and the first thing I hear is Cross and his direct quote was “This obviously shows the NCAA had an agenda when conducting this investigation”. Flipped it right back off. How is that what he gathered from this.... they still have the LOIC
So they got hammered by losing bowl revenue...... they will get back in a couple of years. Wow. Screwed I tell ya. The NCAA is just too hard on these guys.
Probation is effectively 5 years Caught doing anything in next 5 years = repeat
violator status. The watered-down NCAA probably won't give them the death penalty, but the punishment should be bad.
That's until November 1, 2023. And that goes for any and every sport they for which they get caught cheating until then.
violator status. The watered-down NCAA probably won't give them the death penalty, but the punishment should be bad.
That's until November 1, 2023. And that goes for any and every sport they for which they get caught cheating until then.
What we're seeing on the field is the result of Freeze' not recruiting defensive players. AND I am a proud MSU homer.
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