Brevyn Jones commits to State - 3* OT

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The more things change. The more they stay the same.

Offers from Tulane, Central Michigan, App State and Alabama State.
 

WutheringDawg

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I feel like I’m putting the cart before the horse before someone says it, but when was the last time we successfully developed a 4* o line recruit out of high school? The guy last year doesn’t count, but Damien Robinson and Joe Thomas are the last two four star linemen that I remember. Would it be sherrod?
 

MSUDawgFan86

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I feel like I’m putting the cart before the horse before someone says it, but when was the last time we successfully developed a 4* o line recruit out of high school? The guy last year doesn’t count, but Damien Robinson and Joe Thomas are the last two four star linemen that I remember. Would it be sherrod?

Yes it would be Derek Sherrod if we aren’t counting Rankin. Offensive line is the one position I don’t get bent out of shape about in recruiting as long as they can be developed. It’s the hardest position to evaluate. The Recruiting experts half the time don’t know what the hell they are looking at. An example is Auburn is loaded with 4 stars and their offensive line is garbage. State’s is loaded with 2s and 3s but we can run block better than anyone. No one wanted Elgton Jenkins and the dude is gonna be in the NFL next season. Gabe Jackson was a 3 star.
 
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bruiser.sixpack

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Did I miss something?

You guys are aware there are 129 D1 programs.

You are aware that there are roughly 53 combined 4 & 5 star High School Offensive Linemen.

There are 5 offensive linemen positions.

The top 15 programs usually sign 2 to 3 of the 4 & 5 star linemen, with the Top 10 or so getting ALL of the 5 stars. That leaves between 8 and 23 left for the next 5 to 15 programs to divide up.

So there are Elite Programs: most if not all 5* linemen
Great Programs: an occasional 5*, and most 4*
Good Programs: the rest of the 4*.

Rest of the Programs: 3 and 2*
 

thatsbaseball

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The biggest flop I can remember at MSU at any position was a 5 star offensive lineman named Donovan Davis. **** happens.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I feel like attitude and work ethic are just as important as athletic ability when it comes to OL, more so than others.
 
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TheStateUofMS

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I feel like I’m putting the cart before the horse before someone says it, but when was the last time we successfully developed a 4* o line recruit out of high school? The guy last year doesn’t count, but Damien Robinson and Joe Thomas are the last two four star linemen that I remember. Would it be sherrod?

Stewart Reese was a 4 star and he's started since he was a RS FR. Daryl Williams was also a 4 star.

Depends on which sites you look at. Williams was an ESPN 300 recruit as well.
 
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Did I miss something?

You guys are aware there are 129 D1 programs.

You are aware that there are roughly 53 combined 4 & 5 star High School Offensive Linemen.

There are 5 offensive linemen positions.

The top 15 programs usually sign 2 to 3 of the 4 & 5 star linemen, with the Top 10 or so getting ALL of the 5 stars. That leaves between 8 and 23 left for the next 5 to 15 programs to divide up.

So there are Elite Programs: most if not all 5* linemen
Great Programs: an occasional 5*, and most 4*
Good Programs: the rest of the 4*.

Rest of the Programs: 3 and 2*

5 stars usually pan out in college to be at least be good and a lot of times great. You have to think about most people rating these guys don't have a great feel for how to judge the Oline. You pretty much get to be a 3 star from having a SEC offer so unless it is someone that only we offer then they will be a 3 star.
 

FordhamBulldog

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Intelligence is also super underrated. Very cerebral position. Not a lot of dummies can play at a high level, especially center and guard.
 

philduckworth

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247 has done away with 2 star ratings for players that commit to an SEC school. You are pretty much either 3 star or 4 star. Keeps all of the fanbases a little more happy I guess.
 

kired

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You can pretty much guarantee half the offensive linemen anyone signs will never see the field, regardless of star ratings (except for maybe 5-stars). It's not a position where you play 2nd string unless there are injuries, so no one uses more than ~6-7 guys each season but everyone has twice that on the roster. A lot quit or transfer due to lack of playing time / being buried on the depth chart. And its fairly common for guys to quit due to injury - backs, knees, whatever.

If half your 4-stars actually develop into starters, you're doing as good as anyone.
 

NWADog

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I saw in one of the articles that JoMo wanted him for his quick feet and athleticism at the tackle position. Something we desperately needed to defend the speed rush vs Kentucky. It’s hard to coach up a guy who has cinderblocks for feet. It’s easy to pack on 30 pounds of good weight. I think we’re gonna start seeing more athletic leaner type tackles in the future instead of the big giant road graders like we have in the past. Hopefully this guy develops into what we/JoMo needs.
 

maroonmania

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Stewart Reese was a 4 star and he's started since he was a RS FR. Daryl Williams was also a 4 star.

Depends on which sites you look at. Williams was an ESPN 300 recruit as well.

For OL the offer list is much more important to look at than star rating. As said there aren't many 4-5 star OL to go around but there is a HUGE range of 3 stars. All the way from ones with P5 offers all over to those with only G5 offers and below. Pretty much having ONE FBS offer gets you a third star.
 
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