MELTDOWN MONDAY! The Sky done fell!

[DoggieDaddy13]

I'm as disenchanted with JoMo as the rest of you cry babies, but go back and watch the game. He called a pretty good one up until all we should have been doing is throwing the ball with the worst passer in SEC history.

Earlier in the game when JoMo went to the pass it was designed to catch the defense out of position, it was usually 12 yards or less. And they were out of position and our receivers were open. But every damn time, Fitz failed to execute, except for twice when receivers dropped decent passes - not perfect passes just ones that were in their general area.

Guys... Fitz is not a QB. Never was. Wish Dan had not run Elijah Staley off or that he'd taken Fitz with him to Florida. I wonder if JoMo gave up on the season early when he was feeling pressure to keep Fitz as the face of the club.

Let's hope JoMo will go to Thompson for the rest of the year and maybe keep Fitz on the field as a receiver or back or bring him in to run some version of the wildcat.

Fitzie's got all sorts of records now. He is not coming back after that absolute humiliation... no way. He looked like bozo the clown Saturday night in DV and that's got to 17-up your head. He ain't recovering from that!

He'll never throw a decent pass wearing Maroon and White again and he'll never play QB in the NFL. I don't think he ever plays in the NFL at any position. His football IQ is 'stump.'

Time to get a new QB. Then we can see if we need a new Coach next year.

See you whiners Saturday! Hail State!

 

[thatsbaseball]

If you think next year an inexperienced first year QB is going to bail Moorhead out I've got a bridge in western Warren county I'd like to sell you. Moorhead is in waaay over his head and it will take YEARS for him to become a good head coach IF he ever does (I personally don't think he has the right stuff). We made a terrible hire and while I admittedly don't know what to do about Moorhead at this point I would immediately fire Cohen and get someone in the AD position capable of evaluating and correcting this cluster 17 when the time comes.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

Sorry but calling QB power with no RB in the backfield, with no option, motion, lead blocker, etc about times 20 is not good play calling. Don’t think we adjusted well again in the second half, like KY and FL games.

 

[BrunswickDawg]

Anybody who thinks Elijah Staley was any less of a project then Nick knows nothing about football.
Did you see his stats at Morgan State? 125 of 266 - 47%, 1463 yards, 4 TDs 11 INTS
In his only game against a D1 defense - Rutgers , he went 2 of 12 with an INT.

Now, Nick Tiano, is doing very well at Chattanooga - you might be able to argue that he would have been a better QB.

 

[RiverCityDawg]

You were making some decent points until you suggested Elijah Staley would be better, at which point I quit reading. You know he sucked at the two schools he went to afterwards and then quit football to play basketball, right?

 

[Dawgzilla]

Sorry, I still love Moorhead and I want him to work out, but this offensive cluster17 is all on him. That second possession had some great plays, but the plays in the redzone have been a problem all season. Y'all may all have heard me screaming when we ran those three plays down there and had to settle for a FG.

Whatever is wrong with Fitz -- mental, physical, whatever -- is still on Moorhead. If Fitz is not executing the offense correctly, then don't put him in the game.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Yes, you guys are correct. It was Tiano that I was thinking about at UT-Chat... Staley would have turned out no better than Fitz. They were all in the same class, I believe.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Yes, it is all on JoMo as the head coach. But Nicky Fitz laid an egg on Saturday and except for a couple of fortunate long runs against AU has looked like a confused, doped up chicken running the offense. He also seem to be missing a lot more his option reads over the last several games. But that could mean the defenses are doing a better job disguising their schemes.

 

[vandaldawg]

Sorry but calling QB power with no RB in the backfield, with no option, motion, lead blocker, etc about times 20 is not good play calling. Don’t think we adjusted well again in the second half, like KY and FL games.

Not handing the ball to Kylin Hill one 17ing time when we got to the goal line was perhaps the worst play calling series I have seen since Croom.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Fitz has looked lost. I don't defend his play at all. I just think that JoMo should be able to see that and either simplify things for him or get him out of there. The same goes for our offensive line that has looked lost, and for our receivers who sometimes don't seem to know what they are doing, either. If the players are not learning the new offense, then it is up to the coaches to either simplify things for them, or play someone else.

 

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Fitz has looked lost. I don't defend his play at all. I just think that JoMo should be able to see that and either simplify things for him or get him out of there. The same goes for our offensive line that has looked lost, and for our receivers who sometimes don't seem to know what they are doing, either. If the players are not learning the new offense, then it is up to the coaches to either simplify things for them, or play someone else.

Is 15 passes going into the 4th quarter and running QB power two dozen times not the epitome of simplifying the offense?

 

[Strike.sixpack]

Is 15 passes going into the 4th quarter and running QB power two dozen times not the epitome of simplifying the offense?

Not that’s the definition of insanity when it had not worked all game. And why do that when we and the QB just proved they could run something different vs Auburn? And the past 2 seasons

 

[GloryDawg]

Why melt down after the lose? Most of you had already melted down before the lost. Hell last week we didn't even play and everyone was melting. Only on a MSU board does that happen.

 

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Not that’s the definition of insanity when it had not worked all game. And why do that when we and the QB just proved they could run something different vs Auburn? And the past 2 seasons

I didn't make any comment on the efficiency of running QB power over and over. Im saying the offense can't be much more simple than telling the QB to catch the ball and run on half the plays we ran. But people are saying we still haven't simplified the offense enough.

 

[Dawgtruc]

Sorry but calling QB power with no RB in the backfield, with no option, motion, lead blocker, etc about times 20 is not good play calling. Don’t think we adjusted well again in the second half, like KY and FL games.

The thought is that you spread the defense out and create running lanes for the QB, but Mullen was great at it. Moorhead, not so much. It is so predictable.

 

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

The thought is that you spread the defense out and create running lanes for the QB, but Mullen was great at it. Moorhead, not so much. It is so predictable.

Have we already forgotten how many times everyone in the stadium could guess that we were about to spread the field and run the QB up the middle...and we would...and it wouldn't work?

 

[kired]

If it got any simpler, it would be the equivalent of the offenses we used to run in our Sunday afternoon backyard football games as 10 year olds.

I'd agree they all looked lost at Kentucky. But I don't see that as much now. Now all I see is a QB that can't pass and an offense that is so one dimensional that no one has to respect our passing game at all. Whether it's Fitz or KT, someone has to complete some passes if we want to win 4 more games.

 

[archdog]

Its not the "simple" aspect of the play calling that is the issue. Its that we do not change the play "type" enough to keep defenses on their heels.
4 types of plays that should be rotated through to keep them on their heels:
1. RB Off tackle with option for QB up the middle. RPO to WR screen.
2. QB quick sweep off of pump fake.
3. RB up the middle.
4. RB screen passes Option to run, then the RB trails for the pitch.

Run those and mix in some shots to TEs and WR down the field. Tempo needs to improve. We should snap the ball with 18+ seconds on the clock every time when we are moving the ball. Forget the check with me crap. Let the QB change the play to one of the other 4 plays.

Use motion to determine the coverage and gain numbers.

Limit the RPO options to allow the line to know what they need to do on a given play.

The focus on this is to change the type of play. Being simple by running Fitz 65% of the plays just allows the defense to spy only him and shut us down. Aeris and Hill should have 1.7Xs the carries as Fitz every single game. If fitz has 10 carries, Hill and Aeris should have 17 or more combined. Fitz should never out carry Aeris and Hill. Too easy to put a LB spy on that and pretty much shut it down. That is why outside of a coupel 60 yard runs Fitz has had, he is averaging about 1.5 yards a carry.

 

[Seinfeld]

We just scored 3 pts against LSU, and after an entire half of offensive ineptitude, we made enough adjustments during the intermission to pick up a whopping 4 total first down in the second half of the game. Did you seriously just type out that Moorhead called a pretty good game?

This isn't calculus, folks, and one of two thing is true

1) Joe ain't the offensive guru that folks have made him out to be
2) Joe has no idea what to do when he doesn't have the perfect personnel to fit the only offense he knows

Either way, this cluster is on him. Not Nick, not the O line, and certainly not our running backs or defense. And good gosh, if he's not going to lift a finger in order to do something about the offense, can he at least divert his attention to our inability to punt a ball 40 yards for a week or two?