We Are Not Firing Moorhead....

[Clarence Boddicker]

...so you all may as well get behind him and the team, help them hopefully go 7-5 or 8-4 while beating Ole Miss. If we do that, maybe we can finish strong in recruiting.

We all need to back up and remember that we recruited strongly in 2017 and 2018, while Ole Miss recruited poorly. If we can do it again in 2019 with Schrader and some WRs, we are set up MUCH better for the next 4 years. Contrary to message board beliefs, OM is not firing Luke. If they do, they’ll blow up the whole system and we STILL will benefit.

Let’s get behind this team and finish strong. Fitzgerald has done so much for this program over the years, at this point he deserves to go out with our support.

At the end of the day, our schedule ended up tougher than we thought. It’s frustrating and I feel the pain too, but we have no other choice at the moment. He may end up like Croom, but he at least has the resume at the time of hire. Support the team, coaches and Fitz. KT will have his shot the next two years.

ETA: also remember, and maybe the biggest point, is that it’s never easy replacing a successful coach.

 

[Dawg1976]

I think most of us realize he won't be fired after year one. But we also realize were 17ed.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

If no changes are made to our current personnel or playcalling, 8 wins is almost impossible, 7 is unlikely, 6 is possible, and 5 is probable. I still support MSU, give $ to the Bulldog Club, and wear my Maroon and White...but I also have to rationally look at the reality of the situation.

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[WutheringDawg]

You cannot mention other teams improving any from 2017 to 2018. That is impossible - the singular variable that has changed from last year to this year is Moorhead. Kentucky is as bad as last year LSU is as bad as last year and we should have walked into Tiger Stadium last night and won easy. Moorhead just needs to go to the coach screen in the NCAA video game, change playbook to Florida, and then Fitz will stop looking like a punter trying to execute a fake every time he throws the football.

 

[Chris Mannix]

...so you all may as well get behind him and the team, help them hopefully go 7-5 or 8-4 while beating Ole Miss. If we do that, maybe we can finish strong in recruiting.

We all need to back up and remember that we recruited strongly in 2017 and 2018, while Ole Miss recruited poorly. If we can do it again in 2019 with Schrader and some WRs, we are set up MUCH better for the next 4 years. Contrary to message board beliefs, OM is not firing Luke. If they do, they’ll blow up the whole system and we STILL will benefit.

Let’s get behind this team and finish strong. Fitzgerald has done so much for this program over the years, at this point he deserves to go out with our support.

At the end of the day, our schedule ended up tougher than we thought. It’s frustrating and I feel the pain too, but we have no other choice at the moment. He may end up like Croom, but he at least has the resume at the time of hire. Support the team, coaches and Fitz. KT will have his shot the next two years.

ETA: also remember, and maybe the biggest point, is that it’s never easy replacing a successful coach.

Hold on hard to that hope, eight wins is not happening. Seven, if we are lucky, more likely to finish with six.

Most rational fans know we are not firing him after year one, we also realize dude is a bust. No matter how many times we click our heals and say just support the team.

This guy took a very talented team, and due to scheme and mostly coaching decisions he lead it to six wins, at best. That is not being critical, that is what is going to happen.

 

[Dawgzilla]

I think 7 wins is very likely. Everyone is overlooking that this offense has performed well against 3 ****** defenses, and 1 above-average defense (I'm not really sure where you put Auburn's defense at this point, but I think they are at least a level above ******).

I don't know how bad a defense has to be for our offense to move the ball, but UMiss, Arkansas and La. Tech all have defenses that are worse than Auburn's. I'm not chalking up those games as wins, of course, but we should be able to score points in those games and have a chance.

I am uncertain how good A&M's defense is. If you throw out the Bama game, they have performed pretty well. I am not very optimistic for this weekend, but I think we will find the endzone.

 

[Dawgzilla]

You cannot mention other teams improving any from 2017 to 2018. That is impossible - the singular variable that has changed from last year to this year is Moorhead. Kentucky is as bad as last year LSU is as bad as last year and we should have walked into Tiger Stadium last night and won easy. Moorhead just needs to go to the coach screen in the NCAA video game, change playbook to Florida, and then Fitz will stop looking like a punter trying to execute a fake every time he throws the football.

The fact that some of our fans believe last night should have been an easy win is a big part of what causes the frustration here. When have we ever walked into DV and won easily....even in 2014 when we should have? Last year, LSU improved a lot during the season, while we dropped off a bit after the Alabama game. If we had played LSU in DV last November, we would have lost. This is college football, and you rarely have the same team from week-to-week, let alone season to season.

Our offense has been unacceptably bad in our 3 losses, and our defense has kept those games close, but its not Moorhead's fault that our fans think we should win those games easily.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Ill go to games to see friends and family. Its really my only "my time" i have all year. So ill go to a few home games for that reason alone. And ill support our players. But i wont sit by and act like this coach is gonna wake up one day and realize how to be an sec west caliber head coach. Very few are built for this kinda war. .moorehead might have success in another conference but hes gonna sink here. The sooner we realize the quicker we recover and the less deep the hole

 

[patdog]

Of course, we’re firing Moorhead. The question is when. Cohen has 17ed up another major hire.

 

[WhiteShepherd07]

The reality of the situation is that we may barely be bowl eligible at the end of this season with arguably THE BEST TALENT THIS SCHOOL HAS EVER SEEN.

That is 17’ng frustrating.

 

[Drewbowski]

Matt Luke is 5 times the coach Moorhead is. Screw Joe Fatneck, I want Cohen fired. Time for Keenum to grow a pair.

 

[FreeDawg]

so you all may as well get behind him and the team, help them

if you think there is a single thing a fan can do to help the worst offense in college football, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[deadheaddawg]

The reality of the situation is that we may barely be bowl eligible at the end of this season with arguably THE BEST TALENT THIS SCHOOL HAS EVER SEEN.

That is 17’ng frustrating.

We need to face reality. This best talent this program has ever had is a team with no WRs and below average passing QBs.

So if that is true and this was the best team, just let that sink in. That is what kind of football program we have

The most talented team in our history is has no talent on the passing game. Regardless of who was the head coach.

Luckily we play in the SEC, where everything is easy and you don't need a complete team to actually be a competitor. It Should be a cakewalk in this conference to win with no passing game

 

[msstate7]

We need to face reality. This best talent this program has ever had is a team with no WRs and below average passing QBs.

So if that is true and this was the best team, just let that sink in. That is what kind of football program we have

The most talented team in our history is has no talent on the passing game. Regardless of who was the head coach.

Luckily we play in the SEC, where everything is easy and you don't need a complete team to actually be a competitor. It Should be a cakewalk in this conference to win with no passing game

You realize we are the worst team in the country in points per game vs conference, last in country in passing vs conference, and 124th in country in total offense vs conference, right? This team is basically the same team as last year.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

if you think there is a single thing a fan can do to help the worst offense in college football, I don’t know what to tell you.

Go to games.

Want me to list others?

 

[deadheaddawg]

The reality of the situation is that we may barely be bowl eligible at the end of this season with arguably THE BEST TALENT THIS SCHOOL HAS EVER SEEN.

That is 17’ng frustrating.

You realize we are the worst team in the country in points per game vs conference, last in country in passing vs conference, and 124th in country in total offense vs conference, right? This team is basically the same team as last year.

And last year we had one of the very elite QB coaches in the country. Maybe the very best QB coach.

We were not replacing Mullen's QB coaching skills. With anyone. They don't exist. Mullen is that good with QBs.

Take him out of the equation and you have a bad QB and bad receivers.

This team would have only been our most talented ever with Mullen. Take out what he brings to the table and we have a amazing defense and a extremely one dimensional offense.

You realize that don't you

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

We could have thrown 0 passes to date and been 7-0 with a creative o-coordinator

 

[msstate7]

And last year we had one of the very elite QB coaches in the country. Maybe the very best QB coach.

We were not replacing Mullen's QB coaching skills. With anyone. They don't exist. Mullen is that good with QBs.

Take him out of the equation and you have a bad QB and bad receivers.

This team would have only been our most talented ever with Mullen. Take out what he brings to the table and we have a amazing defense and a extremely one dimensional offense.

You realize that don't you

So with Mullen we are a semi-sec west contender, but without him we are the worst offensive team in the country in conference play? Makes me feel great about Moorhead.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

The fact that some of our fans believe last night should have been an easy win is a big part of what causes the frustration here. When have we ever walked into DV and won easily....even in 2014 when we should have? Last year, LSU improved a lot during the season, while we dropped off a bit after the Alabama game. If we had played LSU in DV last November, we would have lost. This is college football, and you rarely have the same team from week-to-week, let alone season to season.

Our offense has been unacceptably bad in our 3 losses, and our defense has kept those games close, but its not Moorhead's fault that our fans think we should win those games easily.

Same group that doesn't have enough life experience to know that wholesale leadership changes bring growing pains and that it is unusual for a 1st year guy to be instantly and wildly successful. Now it's nuclear all based on misplaced pre-season expectations and inability to see that Nick has never been a good passer. Mullen does get points for being able to scheme and playcall around QB lack of skill. He got Tebow drafted after all.

 

[muddawgs]

I think the thing you have to realize is

It's not that we are losing. It's how we are losing. Moorhead tried to turn our OL into a passing OL instead of a running OL, and made Eiland looked like he hasn't ever played OL before in his life. We don't use the RB's for **** and those are some of the highest rated guys on our roster, and one ran for over 1000 yards last season. But, some people spouted off some ******** that Williams wasn't doing what Moorhead wanted and all of us dumber 17's believed that ****. He tried to turn our running QB into a passing QB. The only creative game plan he has come up with is the Auburn game and I guess we can call it that. And then on top of all that **** he tried to let a QB who has ****** decision making start making all the decisions. I think that's one of the things Dan did a good job of is letting his QB's have simple reads. Fitz is not ready to make the reads that Moorhead is expecting him to make, which is why he's having such a ****** year. That and he has ****** touch on the football. Every pass is a 120 MPH fastball to his receivers. But keep drinking the Kool Aid buddy

 

[TrapGame.sixpack]

La Tech, Ark and OM. (We ain't beating A&M or Bama)

Lose two of those and he should be fired. No joke.

Lose to this OM team this year and he should be fired.

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

La Tech, Ark and OM. (We ain't beating A&M or Bama)

Lose two of those and he should be fired. No joke.

Lose to this OM team this year and he should be fired.

We are favored vs aTm.

 

[FreeDawg]

Go to games.

Want me to list others?

Bless your heart

 

[triton28]

Vegas has lost their damn minds

 

[NWADog]

I’m not the type of person to abandon ship so quickly and spew off thoughts based on emotion like some here. I’m trying to be patient and I really do love this staff and I think they’re not a group of idiots. Everyone has always said from day one how they believe in Moorhead. I still do. The results havnt been what we expected obviously and it’s very disappointing but I’ve gotta have hope or I would be a miserable miserable person ALL the time. Im hoping this is like a Scott Frost type situation where he went from 0-12 to 6-6 to 11-0 at UCF and he’s 0-6 at Nebraska right now but they still have 90,000 showing up to games. They believe in the man for what he’s done in the past. We have to have some hope for what our guy has done in the past. I KNOW WE ALREADY HAD A LEGIT PROGRAM BUILT AND IN PLACE... But give the man a chance. I don’t expect us to win more than 7-8 games next year and that was my thought even if we still had Mullen. If we are still this inept and hard to watch offensively in our 2020 season then I’m ready to move on but until then I’ve got hope for this staff and belief

 

[TrapGame.sixpack]

We are favored vs aTm.

We ain't beating A&M.

 

[ArrowDawg]

...so you all may as well get behind him and the team, help them hopefully go 7-5 or 8-4 while beating Ole Miss. If we do that, maybe we can finish strong in recruiting.

We all need to back up and remember that we recruited strongly in 2017 and 2018, while Ole Miss recruited poorly. If we can do it again in 2019 with Schrader and some WRs, we are set up MUCH better for the next 4 years. Contrary to message board beliefs, OM is not firing Luke. If they do, they’ll blow up the whole system and we STILL will benefit.

Let’s get behind this team and finish strong. Fitzgerald has done so much for this program over the years, at this point he deserves to go out with our support.

At the end of the day, our schedule ended up tougher than we thought. It’s frustrating and I feel the pain too, but we have no other choice at the moment. He may end up like Croom, but he at least has the resume at the time of hire. Support the team, coaches and Fitz. KT will have his shot the next two years.

ETA: also remember, and maybe the biggest point, is that it’s never easy replacing a successful coach.

I hate to tell you, but we're not getting the WR's. They're all going to OM and other SEC schools. Also, Shrader won't be ready to play for at least two years. Our recruiting has been stuck in quicksand since the middle of summer.

 

[Chris Mannix]

It's not that we are losing. It's how we are losing. Moorhead tried to turn our OL into a passing OL instead of a running OL, and made Eiland looked like he hasn't ever played OL before in his life. We don't use the RB's for **** and those are some of the highest rated guys on our roster, and one ran for over 1000 yards last season. But, some people spouted off some ******** that Williams wasn't doing what Moorhead wanted and all of us dumber 17's believed that ****. He tried to turn our running QB into a passing QB. The only creative game plan he has come up with is the Auburn game and I guess we can call it that. And then on top of all that **** he tried to let a QB who has ****** decision making start making all the decisions. I think that's one of the things Dan did a good job of is letting his QB's have simple reads. Fitz is not ready to make the reads that Moorhead is expecting him to make, which is why he's having such a ****** year. That and he has ****** touch on the football. Every pass is a 120 MPH fastball to his receivers. But keep drinking the Kool Aid buddy

Could not agree more brother. Dude is a bust, I am sure he is a great guy. The whole he has to get players to run his system is ********. That is not the bill of goods we were sold. We were told that this just some fine tuning on a already solid program. Any coach that has the mindset of I am going to force players into my system is a moron. What we are suppose to do watch him blow it up for two seasons until some kid from Texas may or may not be ready? That is not what I was told when he was brought here. This dude is taking, most likely, one of best defenses in school history and pissing it away. As an old o lineman and long time o line coach in high school I have had plenty of friends ask why our line is so bad. I say it is because they were built to run block. This is like a taking a plane, trying to use it as a submarine, and then not being able to grasp why it is sinking. Just like Fitz, our o line, and running backs, this is not what they do well.

Lastly, saying that I do not support this coach, but I still support the program is possible. I will continue to come to games, sit in the club levels seats, pour money into tailgating, and be an MSU fan. I will never again have faith in Moorhead and never will forgive him for his sin of arrogance. Arrogance by not adapting his system to these players and pissing away a great MSU team, which is not something we have all that often.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I think most of us realize he won't be fired after year one. But we also realize were 17ed.

Nobody here has any clue if Moorhead is a busy or not. Jesus Christ some of you people are nuts.

Kirby smart took over a team that went 10-3 back to back years and went 8-4 his first year.

What has happened in the state’s football programs past that indicates we should fire a football coach after his first year with a winning record? Potential? That’s absurd.

 

[msstate7]

Nobody here has any clue if Moorhead is a busy or not. Jesus Christ some of you people are nuts.

Kirby smart took over a team that went 10-3 back to back years and went 8-4 his first year.

What has happened in the state’s football programs past that indicates we should fire a football coach after his first year with a winning record? Potential? That’s absurd.

Smart also got a top 3 recruiting class. Wanna take a stab at our recruiting finish?

 

[Chris Mannix]

Nobody here has any clue if Moorhead is a busy or not. Jesus Christ some of you people are nuts.

Kirby smart took over a team that went 10-3 back to back years and went 8-4 his first year.

What has happened in the state’s football programs past that indicates we should fire a football coach after his first year with a winning record? Potential? That’s absurd.

Dude is a bust, faster you come to terms on that fact the faster you will be better able to deal with it. I know it’s hard right now, but soon there will be enough losses to hopefully change your mind. His passing offense will not work at a school known for a run offense. Joemo does not have the time that will make us a passing school. That would take three to four years, are we really saying we are ok with three terrible seasons to get to a promised land that may or may not exist? I was told this man could win with the players we had, that this season would be fine because this man had a football iq that could take what we had, and continue to win until he got all the players he wanted. That was total ********.
My counter question would be, how many losses will it take?