Refs have too much influence in game outcomes

[anon1787432961]

It's going to need to change soon

KY probably would have still beaten us last night. But the head ref was unusually making certain that they would. That's more disenfranchising than the way we played.

Someone please make a string of video clips of the calls last night

 

[TBone.sixpack]

It was bad. They were even picking up flags that were against Kentucky.

 

[Shamoan]

I don't get that a ref watching a play is convinced enough in p.i. that he reaches down and grabs the flag and tosses it on a catchable ball...then, his buddy strolls over and is convincing enough to make ref 1, say, "you know what?...you are right, shouldn't be p.i.". It's either p.i. or it's not. I don't understand that.

Either way, our coaches out bed-**** the refs.

 

[kired]

I was ok with most, until the unsportsmanlike on Rayford followed by the PI on Rayford when he’d have had a pick if the TE hadn’t put him in a headlock. Then of course the picked up PI that would have given us a fresh set of downs on 3rd & 39 — no doubt in my mind they intentionally 17’d us on that one.

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

What was that all about ? Why did he pick up that flag on the PI on 3rd and 39 or whatever. It was still a one score game, and that would have put us around their 35. That is one of the worst calls I have ever seen.

 

[eckie1]

No doubt about it....

It's going to need to change soon

KY probably would have still beaten us last night. But the head ref was unusually making certain that they would. That's more disenfranchising than the way we played.

Someone please make a string of video clips of the calls last night

We would have had to have played flawlessly to have given us our best shot at winning, because the refs were on a mission last night.

This used to be the norm under Jackie, but under Mullen we seemed to get a fair shake against teams we were simply better than (I.e., KY). But don’t dare be in a close game against Auburn or Bama.... maybe we just TCB’d against inferior opponents more regularly under Mullen and left no doubt.

Somebody asked me last night why the SEC wouldn’t want us, a possible CFP contender, to win... I had no answer. Most SEC refs are clearly incompetent, but last night was way beyond that. Picking up flags for KY, the PI where our guy was face-masked, Leo’s textbook tackle that was “a late hit”.... seemed way too obvious to be coincidence.

That said, we weren’t gonna bear much of anybody with how we performed on offense. It was terrifying to watch, really.

 

[Palos verdes]

Refereeing is about like truck driving, they have to take whatever they can get.

 

[josebrown]

What about the non-call against them on the pass to Farrod Green? The dB was face guarding while looking Farrod eye to eye. I thought you had to look towards the ball. Most of the bad calls last night were at critical times for us. A first down pass, a stop on downs, another stop on downs....all while the game was in contention. That's no excuse, but I could see them building up on our guys leading them to losing their composure and focus to a degree. I am in no way advocating the refs caused us the game though. We looked like horseshit.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

That black official has always been overcritical of our games . Maybe he thinks we are Ole Miss.

 

[bulldognation]

Seems like refs were always against us whenever we played UK in basketball... now they got a vendetta against us vs UK football too.

 

[thatsbaseball]

They affected that game last night . Hard to say they changed the outcome but they sure as hell controlled momentum several times with bad calls AND no-calls.

 

[WhiteShepherd07]

They absolutely effected our game last night and killed any motivation/confidence we had. I haven’t looked at the game stats but I’d be willing to bet we had more penalty yards than KY had passing yards.

Just to point out a couple that were missed..

KY throws a go route shortly before half and receiver is bobbling it as he is falling out of bounds. Not only did he push off and should have been called for Off PI, the sideline ref in his face calls it incomplete pass and missed the PI, yet the black ref runs across the field to overrule him and they don’t even have an official review?

The sack before half, Fitz is grabbed by the damn helmet/face mask and sacked. Should that have been called we are on the ~36 yard line and have a chance for a FG to end the half.

I’m sorry but watching this sport isn’t even enjoyable anymore bc it’s become so political.

 

[Shamoan]

Moorhead's pass first play selection + poor officiating = blowout loss to decent teams.

 

[RocketDawg]

That black official has always been overcritical of our games . Maybe he thinks we are Ole Miss.

Wasn't he Hubert something-or-the-other? I've always thought he was pretty fair in the past. Last night I think the early skirmishes got to him and the other officials. They could hear what was being said ... we couldn't.

 

[was21]

Have always felt comfortable with Hubert officiating our games...think he's one of the higher rated SEC officials

 

[olblue.sixpack]

It's going to need to change soon

KY probably would have still beaten us last night. But the head ref was unusually making certain that they would. That's more disenfranchising than the way we played.

Someone please make a string of video clips of the calls last night

And what are you going to do if something doesn’t happen soon? Have someone make you a video to aid your senseless crusade?

 

[was21]

If they affected it it was effected at the end

 

[thatsbaseball]

Hubert Owen Jr. from Holly Bluff, Ms. ( now lives in Atlanta). Good guy from a good family and I don't remember us ever having a problem with his crew before but last night was damn sure the exception. It did appear to me he had a couple of new faces on his crew. They definitely influenced the game with bad calls and no-calls favoring Ky.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Moorhead's pass first play selection + poor officiating = blowout loss to decent teams.

I don't get posts like this.

Everyone understands that we play like garbage last night & that ultimately lost us the game. However, that doesn't mean the refs were good, & I don't understand why people can't say that without people like you making posts to reiterate how poorly we played.

We get it, but it's not black & white.

It's perfectly fine to say that the officiating last night was awful & unbecoming of what this conference should be ok with, while also saying that we didn't deserve win because we sucked

 

[Shamoan]

Both points played a factor. Take out one and maybe it's a close loss, but together it's a blowout

 

[maroonmania]

It was bad. They were even picking up flags that were against Kentucky.

I'm starting to be convinced that the SEC refs have NO interest in seeing MSU's program move ahead. I used to think it was just incompetence but now I just feel its bias against us. Incompetence would be random and we would get the benefit of bad calls from time to time but over just the last couple of years WHERE are these blown calls that ever go OUR way?? I haven't seen any. Have we had any PI calls on us waved off? Have we had any WRs run out of bounds only to catch a TD and have it stand even though the ref through his hat down saying it was an illegal reception? Have we had Fitz be strip sacked for an obvious fumble only to have the SEC refs overturn it to an incomplete pass? I could go on but can someone tell me some obvious blown calls that have gone our way? If so, then I will believe its just incompetence and not bias. And why shouldn't they be biased if they want? There is no obvious penalty or consequence to any SEC ref for screwing up a call. They can't be criticized and apparently are never suspended. They just show back up the next week and draw their next check.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I don't get posts like this.

Everyone understands that we play like garbage last night & that ultimately lost us the game. However, that doesn't mean the refs were good, & I don't understand why people can't say that without people like you making posts to reiterate how poorly we played.

We get it, but it's not black & white.

It's perfectly fine to say that the officiating last night was awful & unbecoming of what this conference should be ok with, while also saying that we didn't deserve win because we sucked

This is the proper verbiage the day after the game. During the game, my verbiage was much, much more colorful.

 

[maroonmania]

Hubert Owen Jr. from Holly Bluff, Ms. ( now lives in Atlanta). Good guy from a good family and I don't remember us ever having a problem with his crew before but last night was damn sure the exception. It did appear to me he had a couple of new faces on his crew. They definitely influenced the game with bad calls and no-calls favoring Ky.

I want to know who the frick was responsible for waving off the KY PI call??? In all my years of watching football I've never seen that happen after a referee has already thrown the flag just to go over and pick it up on what is a judgment call anyway.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I agree on the blown calls but the unsportsmanlike calls were almost all against us. Kentucky was chirping just as much as we were. Those calls should have been more even. They were taunting Simmons all night long.

 

[Dawg_Nation]

It was bad. They were even picking up flags that were against Kentucky.

When the ref picks up a flag, he gives a explanation. Where was the explanation?

 

[tatedog]

If one of the officials had blocked for Fitz, Kentucky still would have kicked our ***.

 

[HumpDawgy]

SEC refs are garbage. They did influence the outcome of this game with the pass interference calls and no call/pickup. Will the SEC office do anything about this. 17 no.

 

[Mjoelner]

What about the non-call against them on the pass to Farrod Green? The dB was face guarding while looking Farrod eye to eye. I thought you had to look towards the ball.

In college, there is no face guarding rule. Only in the pros.

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

What about the non-call against them on the pass to Farrod Green? The dB was face guarding while looking Farrod eye to eye. I thought you had to look towards the ball. Most of the bad calls last night were at critical times for us. A first down pass, a stop on downs, another stop on downs....all while the game was in contention. That's no excuse, but I could see them building up on our guys leading them to losing their composure and focus to a degree. I am in no way advocating the refs caused us the game though. We looked like horseshit.

I agree with everything in this statement. We played like **** but every time we would do something that might shift momentum, the refs threw a flag. The biggest problem is now we are getting a reputation for getting penalties so the refs are just looking to throw a flag. That is going to screw us in the future.

 

[mstateglfr]

I'm starting to be convinced that the SEC refs have NO interest in seeing MSU's program move ahead.

Well yeah- thats kinda sorta how its supposed to be. Refs arent supposed to have an interest in seeing a team move ahead.
Refs exist to oversee a game.

 

[coach66]

It was a poorly called game and tough to watch without getting pisssed but we

have got to learn to play smart and play hard and do all we can to take the ref's out of the equation. We should have won the game but we didn't. Now we
need to acknowledge what got us beat and not let it happen again.

I thought our defense played pretty well which gives me hope that this can still be a great season.

The other thing that bothered me was the amount of holding that is going on against our DL, it is ridiculous.

 

[tcdog70]

Jackie, said that in most games the game hinges on 3 or 4 plays. You could look at this game and find 3-4 questionable penalties that for sure changed the game. KY had 2 TDs as a direct result of a flag or 2. Going into the 4th quarter it was any ones game to win. The flag that was picked up was huge. if we get the call and a first down, there is a good chance we score--now 14-14 and the whole scenario changes.