Some Advice from a Long time State Fan.

bruiser.sixpack

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I have seen this movie before. Been a State Fan since 1968, when at the age of 15, I saw the light and realized just because my family all preferred the Sanctimonious Rebels, they just weren’t for me.

But through all those years, I learned this dose of reality:

The State if Mississippi is just too small for 3 Division 1 Football programs and they are just going to divide up the talent and none of the teams will be able to contend for titles on a regular basis. Since 1968, I believe the average number of wins per year for MSU is 6 and for Ole Miss it is 6.5. Since 1991, it has ticked up for us and down for them slightly.

I am very critical as a fan for what I perceive as under-achievement. Last night was woeful under-achievement. But it was also the reminder that programs like State and Ole Miss are probably never going to be championship caliber programs.

The Reality is MSU is an average program in a hard place to recruit elite talent.

I will still criticize bad football, but I have to accept that our program is what it is. Middle of the pack SEC.
 

shotgunDawg

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I have seen this movie before. Been a State Fan since 1968, when at the age of 15, I saw the light and realized just because my family all preferred the Sanctimonious Rebels, they just weren’t for me.

But through all those years, I learned this dose of reality:

The State if Mississippi is just too small for 3 Division 1 Football programs and they are just going to divide up the talent and none of the teams will be able to contend for titles on a regular basis. Since 1968, I believe the average number of wins per year for MSU is 6 and for Ole Miss it is 6.5. Since 1991, it has ticked up for us and down for them slightly.

I am very critical as a fan for what I perceive as under-achievement. Last night was woeful under-achievement. But it was also the reminder that programs like State and Ole Miss are probably never going to be championship caliber programs.

The Reality is MSU is an average program in a hard place to recruit elite talent.

I will still criticize bad football, but I have to accept that our program is what it is. Middle of the pack SEC.

17 you and your old *** takes. We can and will compete for championships at MSU. This narrative needs to die
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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Your narrative has absolutely NOTHING to do with what happened last night. I agree that year in and year out we'll be a middle tier SEC West team (if we work hard) but that excuse just don't cut it for last night.
 

Shamoan

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I think he is just trying to be helpful and rationalize what happened last night.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Huge difference in being a "championship caliber program" and not getting mud holed by Kentucky because our team is coached by an offensive wizard and we had more penalty yards than rushing yards. It's ok to be pissed off.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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Not so true anymore

We have 3 Division 1-A programs, but Alabama has at least five (UAB, UAT, Auburn, South Alabama, Troy), Georgia has at least three, Louisiana has at least four, and Florida has at least six.

What that means, is that while the big-time programs will always get the 4 and 5 stars, they won't get those 2 or 3 stars willing to sit on the bench for four years for a chance to platoon their fifth year. Those players are now going somewhere where they can start. What that means, is that if a team busts on a few big-time recruits they don't have the depth anymore to make up for it, and if we're in the right place we can take advantage.

The talent is more spread around, there's fewer scholarships for each school, and some day Nick Saban has to die. We have our chance.
 

thatsbaseball

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Aren't you the same idiot that hung around here last Sunday telling everybody how stupid they were for underestimating this football team ?
 
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