Flyover 1970’s ?

[Mjoelner]

That’s got to be BS.

Nope. Sorry.

 

[dogmatic]

It's difficult to explain how embarrassing Doc's flyover was for those of us who witnessed it, but the baked bean fart of engine noise at the end caps it off perfectly.

 

[1msudawg]

Yeah, those guys were low. Arkansas will sometimes use F-16s from Tulsa, they turn to start their run to the stadium right over my house. Pretty damn awesome.

 

[llmsudawg]

but I don't believe that was in the 70's. (9-17-83) Recall sever chill bumps that day.

But we have had several flyovers.

Not sure the one you are referring to was the Navy game, but we had one game,
that had about 3 or 4 jets fly thru, just above the lights. That was wild.

Yeah... this game. They were friggin' LOW. I was sitting at the top of the horseshoe and saw them coming and it still rattled me.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Kendall Watkins giant self for the win. Will confirm the jet. It was pretty low.

I miss Eric Moulds.

I was there as well and it did buzz. Lots of orange limos too. Very sad hillbillies left the stadium that day.

 

[Palos verdes]

YouTube has several videos of military flyovers where top rows of stadium are looking down into the planes.

Negative, that's an optical illusion.

 

[Coledawg]

I was flying one of the jets (RF-4C Phantoms - hence my username) for the low flyover at MSU. I wasn’t leading it; I think I was #3 (or #4 - it’s been a long time ago - we did several back in the day and did lead several others; just not that particular one). Since I was not leading the formation, I didn’t know how low we were until we were passing through the stadium and I could see the grandstands with my peripheral vision. My attention was necessarily focused on the jet I was flying formation on. We did light the burners (pre-planned) on the signal from the flight lead.

Good times. It was 1993 when our unit stopped flying Phantoms and now I’m able to go as long as 2-3 hours on some days without thinking about them.

Also, I believe that Scruggs was involved in the flyover at Memorial Stadium (I wasn’t) but he wouldn’t have been reprimanded for it because at the time he wasn’t checked out as a flight lead and, if anyone was reprimanded, it would have been the flight lead because the other guys are just flying off of him and not making decisions about where, when, how low, or how fast to go.

You are exactly right, there still is not a more beautiful plane than the Phantom. If you care to, we are interested in your service as a Pilot (State Grad?) - combat service, etc. details, Thanks.
Also, any other service pilots on Sixpack would be appreciated too...

 

[RocketDawg]

You are exactly right, there still is not a more beautiful plane than the Phantom. If you care to, we are interested in your service as a Pilot (State Grad?) - combat service, etc. details, Thanks.
Also, any other service pilots on Sixpack would be appreciated too...

Absolutely. It's the "horizontal" stabilizers that makes the difference. The first time I saw the Blue Angels was in Meridian and they were flying Phantoms.

 

[fedxdog]

there are literally thousands of us, from ww2 thru today...i was vietnam era, msu af rotc...actually in second class at columbus afb summer of '69 when they changed from sac to atc...flew c-141's...it was a privilege...
i had a fraternity brother die in a t-37 spin accident in tx in the fall of '69...the first loss is the hardest!
this might deserve it's own thread...

 

[whosyourdawgy]

Yup. I didn’t see the fly over. My mom, me, and my 2 brothers were walking up the ramp to our seats when they went over. The whole stadium was shaking and we had know idea what was happening. I was 13 at the time and seriously thought there was an earthquake or something happening and the stadium was about to collapse. We sorta panicked and just stopped and hunkered down. Then we heard everyone screaming and were like what the heck was that? Never saw th jets at all. Kind of a sucky story but not everyone gets to see everything.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Loudes't mf17 I ever heard

maybe that's why I can't hear now.

 

[Palos verdes]

Absolutely. It's the "horizontal" stabilizers that makes the difference. The first time I saw the Blue Angels was in Meridian and they were flying Phantoms.

The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds were flying the F-4 at one time.

 

[skip dog]

the "Peeper" is correct on this ......

Sept 17, 1983 MS Veterans Memorial Stadium in Jackson game won by the Dogs 38-10. Notable player from that game for Navy was Napoleon McCallum. Jets flew over the stadium from East to West seemingly barely clearing the top of University of MS Med Center. From my memory they hit the after burners near the West endzone and climbed about as straight up in the air as a fighter jet possibly could. One of them then peeled off drastically the right in the "missing man" formation. People in the West end zone swore they could feel the heat from the afterburners. I was on the South side of stadium about midfield. Loudest most impressive flyover I've ever seen.
Edit: It was a night game right at dusk when they flew over which made the after burners that much more impressive

....Only to add, it felt as though they were actually lower than the highest seat in the stadium, and the "afterburners" left burn marks on the field.

 

[HumpDawgy]

C'mon guys....we are an ag school too!!!

 

[DEEREdawg]

The worst flyover was the first game after 9-11. MSU hosting USCe at Scott field. Because of the planes being grounded there was no flyover. Weird feeling when you’ve been seeing flyovers your whole life and there wasn’t one. Thanks a lot bin laden.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

I always look at the F-4 as America’s MiG-25. A big-*** hot rod aircraft that was not very maneuverable. The visibility in the Phantom was God aweful from guys I’ve talked to who have flown them. Especially your 6. Probably the last plane designed without the very familiar bubble canopy you see on everything now. And of course, it was the first US military plane designed and produced without guns. Pentagon thought guns on aircraft were outdated and all dogfights would be carried out using air-air missiles. The Vietnam War taught the US a very valuable lesson. If it flies it has to have guns. Even though our aircraft are the best in the world I have always thought the Sukoi Flanker series of aircraft were sexy and my all time favorite airframe to look at hands down has to be the MiG-15. Even most airmen that has to go against them in MiG Alley in their F-86s said the 15 was just a beautiful aircraft in the air.

 

[garndawg]

That Tennessee Gulfstream and the Mighty Rhino

I was at the '94 game with the low flyby. Was a grad student in ASE with a fresh pilot's license and working on my IFR Rating. It was low enough to alarm. I worked with Honda out at Raspet and Dr. Frank Engles <sp?> was one of our pilots. He was also a FAA Examiner. I heard through the grapevine that he left the game, met the pilot of the bizjet at the airport and grounded him. Might be scuttlebutt, but thought the UT hotshot had to drive home from the game and they had to fetch the airplane with another crew...

On the Rhino (F-4's), all those birds from the '60's and '70's got their distinctive features through interesting ways. We heard a lot of the stories coming up through the ASE department and I've had the privilege to work with a lot of the test pilots and engineers from those programs in the close of their careers and hear the stories first-hand.

One of those worked MacDac at St. Louis on the XF4H-1 in the wind tunnel. Early tests suggested some real lateral stability issues. The wing was originally a constant anhedral (wingtips down, think Harrier), but tunnel testing said it needed to be overall dihedral (like most aircraft), so rather than redesign the whole wing, they just tacked the distinctive upturned tips. That whole section was added, btw, to the original wing design.

And that tail was cranked down (anhedral again) to get it down below the wing's downwash in high nose situations close to stall. That way, the pilot still had control near stall.

So the two most distinctive features of the F-4 were both 'quick-fix' solutions to problems found in the tunnel...