For the Sherrill lovers I submit

blacklistedbully

All-Conference
Sep 8, 2008
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If you look at 3-year rolling averages for wins under Sherrill, separating the 3 years under NCAA investigation, this is what you get:

Pre-investigation - 6, 6.3, 5, 5.5, 5, 6.7, 8.5, 8.3

After onset of NCAA investigation - 2.7

Pretty clear The Kang had us heading largely up, with significant improvement prior to the NCAA reaming he/we got.
 

rebsgoingdown

Redshirt
Nov 25, 2017
307
0
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Many of my best MSU memories were with Sherrill as coach. I loved him. The point I am making is that I tire of so many people blaming Croom for seemingly every low spot....when clearly Jackie lead us to a very low spot. Croom was unable to pull us out of it, but he set the table nicely for Mullen. It clearly wasn't all Croom's fault....as so many seem to like to believe.
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,907
28,505
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Many of my best MSU memories were with Sherrill as coach. I loved him. The point I am making is that I tire of so many people blaming Croom for seemingly every low spot....when clearly Jackie lead us to a very low spot. Croom was unable to pull us out of it, but he set the table nicely for Mullen. It clearly wasn't all Croom's fault....as so many seem to like to believe.

Here is why you are rightfully catching so much grief for your take:

1. Croom isn't getting blamed for every low spot. He's getting blamed for every low spot from 2004 thru 2008, and rightfully so.
2. Croom didn't set the table for anything. Mullen inherited the worst football roster in the SEC.
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
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For the record, I don’t despise Croom for losses. I despise the fact that he gets labeled as this man of great character when his actions and comments over the years displayed the complete opposite traits. To name just a few...

1. Laziness in recruiting and then telling the fan base that we’d never beat the big boys for talent
2. Constantly throwing players under the bus by stating that they didn’t execute the plays that coaches drew up
3. Stubbornly supporting coaches that were clearly in over their heads to the detriment of the team
4. Clearly stating in a post game interview that he didn’t care what the fans thought
5. Rather than accepting any form of responsibility EVER, he liked to remind the fans about what he inherited 4 years after the fact
6. He hung his hat on “cleaning up the program”, yet he had a laundry list of player arrests and suspensions himself
7. After netting something like $8M from State for frankly providing almost zero results, he still wants to blame Byrne and the administration for getting a raw deal. He just can’t help himself from blaming someone else at any point

Those of you that want to keep telling yourself that Croom was a good man, more power to you, but the real measure of a man is what he does when he faces adversity, and Croom was terrible in that regard. I have zero respect for him as a coach or person
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,270
32,960
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If we are looking for a new coach because the one we have is winning at such a high level that other people want him- that's fine with me. It's better than firing a coach because he is not performing.
Exactly. We're all kind of pissed off about the way Mullen left (not so much the fact he did). But the way he left is a hell of a lot better than the way any coach we've had since Darrell Royal left.
 
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