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Obviously Nolan can direct visually, but I felt a good bit of the writing was pretty bad. Ledger's performance aside, there are some really bad performances in the film. Bale's "batman voice" is cringe-worthy; Gyllenhaal isn't as bad as Katie holmes, but she ain't good; even Aaron Eckhart's character's dialogue gets camp-level preachy.
Outside of Ledgers' Joker, I like Dark Knight 3rd best among Nolan's Batman trilogy.
Also, he just said it was "overrated", not that it was a bad film. I agree that it's overrated. It's a good Batman movie, with an awesome Joker performance, great photography, and a bad *** score. But it's not an all time great or anything.
Fair takes. I don’t agree with all but one thing I most definitely agree on is the “Batman Voice.” That is awful
I think it’s one of the better comic book movies ever made, possibly the best. I really liked Batman Begins, too. Not a big fan of The Dark Knight Rises. I thought the first two thirds of the movie were strong but everything after Bruce escaping from the prison is hot garbage.
It’s the best of the trilogy hands down IMO. The others were comic book films, this was a crime drama with comic book characters. Batman’s voice was ridiculous, but overall the movie was incredible. Best theater experience I’ve ever had. Opens up with the badass bank robbery scene and never lets up.
DKR tried to do to much and the plot was too contrived. So your plan is to become a scientist, then seduce Bruce Wayne in the hopes that he falls in love with you and gives you the keys to the fusion reactor? And if that doesn’t work out in the timeframe you put forth then your plot is foiled?
DKR tried to do to much and the plot was too contrived. So your plan is to become a scientist, then seduce Bruce Wayne in the hopes that he falls in love with you and gives you the keys to the fusion reactor? And if that doesn’t work out in the timeframe you put forth then your plot is foiled?
I definitely look back on the 89 Batman with a ton of nostalgia. I do now view it more as a "Tim Burton" movie, than a true Batman film, but that's ok to me. Nicholson is absolutely great. He chews the scenery in every shot he's in. After the Dark Knight came out, people seemed to dismiss Jack's version as "cartoonish" or "clownish", but that's horribly shortsighted. The 'hand-buzzer' scene, for example, is very maniacal and. Also, the museum scene, where he and his goons deface all that art is great....yeah, it's got a Prince song playing in the background, but the concept is dark as hell.
Batman > Batman Begins > Batman Returns > The Dark Knight > Batman: The Movie > The Dark Knight Rises > Batman Forever > Batman vs. Superman >>>> Batman and Robin
This is very true. I hated the turn at the end where Bane wasn't the "real" villain. I thought Tom Hardy was bad ***, though. I wasn't a huge fan of Anne Hathaway's take on Selena Kyle, either. And the overall plot of DKR is pretty goofy.
I actually liked the ending, though I would've made one change just for the sake of ambiguity. The scene at the end where Alfred goes and has his 'Fernet Branca' at the European cafe, when he looks up and smiles, then it cuts to show Bruce and Selena. I would have liked it better had Nolan not actually shown Bruce and Selena, but rather just cut to black after Alfred's smile. We knew what he was looking at; we don't need everything fed to us (especially, since Alfred had previously described that as a fantasy of his).
I would switch Forever and BvS, then move Returns just ahead of both. Other than that, good ranking.
It’s an all time great no doubt. However I think it’s a touch overrated. The Dark Knight Rises is more rewatchable to me than the Dark Knight. Bane’s quotes were awesome.
I liked it just fine. It fit the era and I liked Michael Keaton as Batman during that time but that’s about it. It’s not a great movie. It’s too silly and can’t be taken seriously when compared to Nolan Batman films.
There's a couple of animated Batman '66 movies on Amazon Prime video with Adam West/Burt Ward/Julie Newmar doing the voices. I watched one last weekend that had William Shatner as Two-Face, it was pretty unquestionably great.
Minority of one here, so go ahead and pile on, but no movie featuring people wearing capes, masks, or flying through the air and maybe burning people to a crisp with a bad eye look (or maybe with outstretched fingers) appeal to me. I am more than willing to lose myself in the moment and suspend reality for a while, but it has to be at least remotely believable.
To each his own but that knocks out a bunch of movies...
'Remotely believable' to me means anything that could actually happen within the laws of physics. Out goes star wars, star trek, basically any and all science fiction. James Bond, Monty Python, three stooges, Mary Poppins the list is endless.
'Remotely believable' to me means anything that could actually happen within the laws of physics. Out goes star wars, star trek, basically any and all science fiction. James Bond, Monty Python, three stooges, Mary Poppins the list is endless.
I don't know if I will go that far, but it does seem like Hollywood can't make anything but a superhero movie now. I used to say that 14 year old girls are what drive popular music because, for whatever reason, all pop music is created for and marketed to them. Now it seems the same thing is happening with big time cinema and 14 year-old boys. Don't get me wrong, most of the Marvel and DC movies are very well made. But there are so many of them you can't even keep them straight without a wikia handy.
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