Baseball camps?

vhdawg

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Update - The university refunded all fees.

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Just heard from a friend that MSU cancelled/postponed all the youth baseball camps on about a week's notice due to DNF construction/new baseball coach, and THEN said they would refund the registration fee MINUS a 5% nonrefundable credit card fee. What fresh hell is this where we cancel things and don't make a full refund?

This family was traveling from out of state and is also now on the hook for several hundred in non-refundable hotel costs that they're hoping they can at least get future stay credit for.

I have two girls, so I'm not going to ever be in the baseball camp business, but that seems pretty ****** to me.
 
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Just heard from a friend that MSU cancelled/postponed all the youth baseball camps on about a week's notice due to DNF construction/new baseball coach, and THEN said they would refund the registration fee MINUS a 5% nonrefundable credit card fee. What fresh hell is this where we cancel things and don't make a full refund?

This family was traveling from out of state and is also now on the hook for several hundred in non-refundable hotel costs that they're hoping they can at least get future stay credit for.

I have two girls, so I'm not going to ever be in the baseball camp business, but that seems pretty ****** to me.

Sounds like a really ****** thing to do. I hope our university isn't doing that type of ****.
 

patdog

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That better not be right. MAJOR 17 up by our athletic dept. if true. Nothing like alienating a bunch of our future recruits and fans.
 

maroonmania

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That better not be right. MAJOR 17 up by our athletic dept. if true. Nothing like alienating a bunch of our future recruits and fans.

Agree, like we JUST figured out that construction would be going on.
 

Shmuley

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uh oh. Somewhere in the vicinity there is an IBM Selectric getting overheated and an ambiguously gay midget feverishly pounding away on a 16 page, single spaced diatribe. Strong letter to follow.
 

philduckworth

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uh oh. Somewhere in the vicinity there is an IBM Selectric getting overheated and an ambiguously gay midget feverishly pounding away on a 16 page, single spaced diatribe. Strong letter to follow.

LOL!! By the way my son went to a camp under Cohen and it was a waste of time. Too many kids, not enough reps, not enough individual instructions, Cohen wouldn't let the kids on the dirt, etc. Just call it a daycare or make it better.
 

Brew_Dawg

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Isn't the revenue from those camps how we pay the "salaries" of the volunteer coaches?
 
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LOL!! By the way my son went to a camp under Cohen and it was a waste of time. Too many kids, not enough reps, not enough individual instructions, Cohen wouldn't let the kids on the dirt, etc. Just call it a daycare or make it better.

Welcome to a kids camp at every D-1 school.
 

aTotal360

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For sure. It's about meeting coaches and players than learning how to field.
 

HumpDawgy

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I went to 2 of Polk's camps (Mark Johnson was running them) when I was 9 and 10. This was before the 80s renovation where we still had the wooden bleachers. Even though this was the camps for the younger groups, the camps were awesome and well organized. Learned a lot. Separate stations for every fundamental you could think of with rotations every hour. Filmed, reviewed, and critiqued your swing. There were no scrimmages/games for the younger campers, but on the last day we were able to break out into our positions and work on more detailed fundamentals of that position (ex. catchers, middle infielders, outfielders, pitchers). Loved it, wish I could have done it every summer.
 
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Currently these camps are just moneymakers to pay the volunteers. You will see a big change over the next few years, however due to the new recruiting rules. Camps will be the only legal way of talking to freshmen and sophomores.
 

RocketDawg

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Just heard from a friend that MSU cancelled/postponed all the youth baseball camps on about a week's notice due to DNF construction/new baseball coach, and THEN said they would refund the registration fee MINUS a 5% nonrefundable credit card fee. What fresh hell is this where we cancel things and don't make a full refund?

This family was traveling from out of state and is also now on the hook for several hundred in non-refundable hotel costs that they're hoping they can at least get future stay credit for.

I have two girls, so I'm not going to ever be in the baseball camp business, but that seems pretty ****** to me.

Yeah, that would be poor if true. Plus, they may as well cancel all future camps if that's the case because word will get around.
 

beachbumdawg

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LOL!! By the way my son went to a camp under Cohen and it was a waste of time. Too many kids, not enough reps, not enough individual instructions, Cohen wouldn't let the kids on the dirt, etc. Just call it a daycare or make it better.

I thought Mike Brown did a good job with the camps. (The guy before Brown not so much). Even worked with my 4 yr old at the time who was more advanced than some of the first/second graders out there. (Those were being baby sat) - Cohen was much more personable than cannizaro at the camp
 

olblue.sixpack

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Just heard from a friend that MSU cancelled/postponed all the youth baseball camps on about a week's notice due to DNF construction/new baseball coach, and THEN said they would refund the registration fee MINUS a 5% nonrefundable credit card fee. What fresh hell is this where we cancel things and don't make a full refund?

This family was traveling from out of state and is also now on the hook for several hundred in non-refundable hotel costs that they're hoping they can at least get future stay credit for.

I have two girls, so I'm not going to ever be in the baseball camp business, but that seems pretty ****** to me.

Jean anxiously waiting on an email from the AD that he can cut and paste into his next addition of inside MSU baseball.
 

philduckworth

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I thought Mike Brown did a good job with the camps. (The guy before Brown not so much). Even worked with my 4 yr old at the time who was more advanced than some of the first/second graders out there. (Those were being baby sat) - Cohen was much more personable than cannizaro at the camp

Yes, this was pre-Mike Brown. Glad to hear he did a good job. And to the other poster, not true on all D1 camps. Just like everything in life, some do a way better job than others.
 

CochiseCowbell

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I went to four State Baseball Camps during the 90's between 8-11 (I think). I don't recall it being all about meeting players or coaches. To me, it was the best 4 summers of my life & I'm in my 36th of one now.

I got valuable training from the staff (whom I think were all young former players & HS coaches at the time). I knew how to field, throw, & hit before I got there, but each year I learned something a little more specific about my "craft."

The camps were all about baseball, staying in a dorm like a big kid, having your own pocket money for seeds & airheads, playing on DNF (there was no PDS), watching the NBA Finals in the room that doubled as the shop with other kids & coaches, and a tournament between all the teams.

The only team name I can recall was the Oompa-Loompas. We lost in the championship to Da Bears.

My parents walked me to my dorm room, I walked them back to the parking lot, & I had no supervision or contact with an adult, other than coaches, for a week.

I'm not coaching kids this year, but when I first started doing so I taught them "the crane" : point your toe, break the ball like an egg, point your elbow, wrist turned away from you, the elbow hits the midget on the head, & follow through.

My apologies. Long post. I'm drinking & reminiscing.

ETA: It was nothing like a day care. If I screwed up/acted out I got chewed out...by the collection of strangers with whom my parents left me.
 
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gymdawg.sixpack

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Went to camp in 95'. One of the hardest things ive ever been put thru. About 70% didnt make it to finish.
Funny story though.... about halfway through the week a few of us realized there was a cheer camp at the hump. We snuck over and met so girls. We were sitting in the stands trying to figure out how to meet up later when we got a tap on the shoulder by 3 coaches. They threatened to send us home as failures but instead placed us in the dugout with all the other coaches....who basically told us theyd had done the same thing if they were our age and congratulated us for having the balls to go over there.

My team started the week with about 17guys. Lots from Virginia beach and a couple from the Washington/ Oregon area. 1 from Montana. 1 from California. None made it half the week. Except local folk, about 5 of us. The heat was crazy that week and the last day alot of the coaches were talking about how they usually get 1 day rained out. We never even saw a cloud. I passed out from the heat stealing home near the end of the camp and got ivs in the med area under the stadium....played that afternoons game and was awarded the "hustle" award that yr. Great summer!
 

dickiedawg

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I never went to baseball camp at State. Went to a day camp one at Delta State when I was very young, don't remember much about it. Also did soccer day camp and tennis overnight camp at State. Had a blast at both of those.
 
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