Re: Carter Stewart- Braves twittersphere saying..

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Re: Carter Stewart- Braves twittersphere saying..

Team is doubtful they will sign the 8th overall pick. Our rotation may get a huge boost.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Quatro better get to Florida and do some more WORK!

 

[MSUDC11]

It sounds like he might go to JUCO so that he can re-enter the draft in one year. Just getting Ginn to campus is amazing, getting Stewart too would be shocking.

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

That would be insane. Would be crazy lucky to have 2 first rounders signed in one year. I couldn’t even imagine anything like this happening until just now.

 

[wtw2400]

The highest JUCO draft pick was picked 60th overall. Only 2 JUCO players were drafted within the 1st 4 rounds. That would be the worst decision he could make. He will not be a top 15 pick next year if he goes JUCO I can garuntee that.

 

[msstate7]

The highest JUCO draft pick was picked 60th overall. Only 2 JUCO players were drafted within the 1st 4 rounds. That would be the worst decision he could make. He will not be a top 15 pick next year if he goes JUCO I can garuntee that.

Brendon little in 2017 draft was a juco 1st rounder

 

[wtw2400]

He went to UNC for a year and then he went JUCO. So he waited 2 years. I don't see him being drafted again in 1 year if this injury is serious enough to where the Braves aren't as high on him.

 

[msstate7]

He went to UNC for a year and then he went JUCO. So he waited 2 years. I don't see him being drafted again in 1 year if this injury is serious enough to where the Braves aren't as high on him.

If the injury is serious, he shouldn't go juco

 

[ronpolk]

He went to UNC for a year and then he went JUCO. So he waited 2 years. I don't see him being drafted again in 1 year if this injury is serious enough to where the Braves aren't as high on him.

Why in the world would the Braves waste this pick if they were concerned about an injury? From the way the Braves are playing now, they won’t have a top 10 pick for awhile. Pretty dumb to just throw it away.

With all that said, I’d be shocked if he makes it to campus. If he’s really top 10 talent, then he could go juco and probably still be a top 10 pick.

 

[msstate7]

Why in the world would the Braves waste this pick if they were concerned about an injury? From the way the Braves are playing now, they won’t have a top 10 pick for awhile. Pretty dumb to just throw it away.

With all that said, I’d be shocked if he makes it to campus. If he’s really top 10 talent, then he could go juco and probably still be a top 10 pick.

Braves and carter had deal in place pending physical. Carter apparently failed that physical. From what I've gathered, the braves offered the minimum (4 million) required to retain pick in next year's draft. Slot is little over 4.9

 

[engie]

Long and the short of it is that the Braves lowballed him ahead of the physical to try and save $900k that they could then turn around and use on Zach Hess. Then the wrist was worse than they thought in the physical and they lowered it even more.

Ultimately, it's not only likely to cost them Stewart, but Hess as well. Since failing to sign him will cost them the full $4.9 against the draft pool for this season that they won't be able to redistribute elsewhere.

Scout for another org compared it to situation with Toronto and Brady Singer coming out of high school, who also failed their physical for a shoulder injury but lit the world on fire at UF for 3 years.

 

[Dawgs'n'Grizz]

They’ll get the 9th pick next year

Why in the world would the Braves waste this pick if they were concerned about an injury? From the way the Braves are playing now, they won’t have a top 10 pick for awhile. Pretty dumb to just throw it away.

With all that said, I’d be shocked if he makes it to campus. If he’s really top 10 talent, then he could go juco and probably still be a top 10 pick.

Braves automatically get the 9th pick next year if he doesn’t sign.

 

[HailState/ToTheVictors]

So he can enter from JuCo in a year, or come to State and have to wait until he's 21?

 

[Philly Dawg]

Bryce Harper was the first overall pick out of JUCO.

 

[msstate7]

Braves automatically get the 9th pick next year if he doesn’t sign.

It isn't automatic. The braves have to offer so much of slot value to get that pick. Brave message board I read says that amount is 4 million, which is being offered ~ 80%

 

[8dog]

Yes

 

[engie]

This whole situation is just crazy. Stewart is 6'6. Was a guy with an elite curveball as a so/JR that was 90-92 and a first rounder. Then as a Jr/Sr he jumped to 95-97 with the best breaker in the class and by spin rate one of the best ever recorded in all of baseball. All that to say, it's pretty likely he's not at or near his ceiling yet. Prior to the wrist injury, there was some talk that he could be the first ever RHP taken #1 overall.

[FONT=&quot]On a major league level, Stewart's average spin rate from last week would rank as the[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]best in baseball[FONT=&quot], slightly ahead of Garrett Richards' 3,233. Moreover, his curve thrown with the highest spin rate from this tournament, at 3,474 RPM, would be tied for the[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]10th-highest spin rate[FONT=&quot] in tracking history.[/FONT]

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/carter-stewart-takes-his-curve-for-a-spin/

For a little background on spin rates.
https://www.mlb.com/news/seth-lugo-sets-statcast-curveball-spin-record/c-198720622

[FONT=&quot]2016 Major League hitters vs. curveballs under 3,000 rpm[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Percent of all curves thrown: 97.9
Average against: .214
Slugging against: .352

2016 Major League hitters vs. curveballs over 3,000 rpm[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Percent of all curves thrown: 2.1
Average against: .154
Slugging against: .217[/FONT]

 

[engie]

All this to say that I fully expect a nut punch on Stewart coming to State. It's just really come out of nowhere as an even remote possibility. To such an extent that no one from our side has seemingly followed his career that closely or had a line of communication open to him to share insight into his thought process. Obviously, this is with zero insight and just feeling the retard karma coming on.

He and Ginn together would be absolutely monumental. It feels weird to even post this out loud -- but by prospect level, they are almost the equivalent of what Will and Rafi were when they left MSU, as they enter MSU. Thunder and lightning went #2 and #22 in the draft in 85. These guys went #8 and #30 in 2018 out of high school. It's just insane to even consider really.

 

[msstate7]

All this to say that I fully expect a nut punch on Stewart coming to State. It's just really come out of nowhere as an even remote possibility. To such an extent that no one from our side has seemingly followed his career that closely or had a line of communication open to him to share insight into his thought process. Obviously, this is with zero insight and just feeling the retard karma coming on.

He and Ginn together would be absolutely monumental. It feels weird to even post this out loud -- but by prospect level, they are almost the equivalent of what Will and Rafi were when they left MSU, as they enter MSU. Thunder and lightning went #2 and #22 in the draft in 85. These guys went #8 and #30 in 2018 out of high school. It's just insane to even consider really.

We'd go from major starting pitching question marks a few weeks ago to one of the most talented in college baseball

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Harper graduated high school as a sophomore, then played 1 year of JUCO (while he would've been a high school junior). And that JUCO used wooden bats.

Unique is an understatement.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

We'd go from major starting pitching question marks a few weeks ago to one of the most talented in college baseball

Take out the phrase “one of” in your post and replace it with “without a doubt” and that is correct- just based purely on talent. There cannot be another staff in the country next year that would start three first round caliber arms on the weekends. It would be a tremendous stroke of good fortune.

 

[PreacherDog]

Team is doubtful they will sign the 8th overall pick. Our rotation may get a huge boost.

This group suggest State is an option. Not sure though if anyone knows. Also, sounds like the wrist is bad enough if they would go $1 million below slot.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/braves-carter-stewart-may-not-sign/

 

[HailState/ToTheVictors]

What's the deal with his wrist? If he came to State would he be able to play 2019 or would he likely wait until 2020?

 

[ronpolk]

Braves automatically get the 9th pick next year if he doesn’t sign.

Didn’t realize that was the case. That really does not make a ton of sense to me though. But that certainly explains why teams would be willing to let a first rounder walk.

 

[msstate7]

Take out the phrase “one of” in your post and replace it with “without a doubt” and that is correct- just based purely on talent. There cannot be another staff in the country next year that would start three first round caliber arms on the weekends. It would be a tremendous stroke of good fortune.

Vandy is always loaded with pitching. Kumar Rocker is right there with Stewart in talent

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I really hope quatro catches on like bob and ozarka

 

[maroonmania]

What's the deal with his wrist? If he came to State would he be able to play 2019 or would he likely wait until 2020?

Good question. I don't understand how on the one hand it could be said the injury is bad enough that he shouldn't go JUCO because his draft stock wouldn't be that much better next year yet we act like if he comes to MSU he is going to be a stud for us as a Freshman? Something there isn't making much sense.

 

[Raiderdawg.sixpack]

Why in the world would the Braves waste this pick if they were concerned about an injury?

the Braves were not entitled to full medical records until after the draft. After the draft, they gave him a physical that showed his wrist injury might be worse than his side had admitted.

 

[BiscuitEater]

This group suggest State is an option.

The wrist injury, which bothered Stewart toward the end of his high school season, troubled the Braves when they got the results of his post-draft physical. This injury has reportedly led to the Braves offering Stewart $4 million, which is almost $1 million under the slot value of $4,980,700. At this point it seems somewhat likely that Stewart will head to Mississippi State, unless the Braves up their offer.

Don't MLB teams do better 'pre-draft' research & a physical on 18 year old HS kids their fix'n to invest >$4M into?

 

[bulldawg1063]

Teams only can get medical records pre-draft. Physicals can not be conducted until the player is drafted.

 

[Go Budaw]

We'd go from major starting pitching question marks a few weeks ago to one of the most talented in college baseball

How fun would it be to watch Ethan Small go something like 18-0 as our Sunday guy?

 

[Dawgs'n'Grizz]

Correct, but..

It isn't automatic. The braves have to offer so much of slot value to get that pick. Brave message board I read says that amount is 4 million, which is being offered ~ 80%

Have to offer 40% of slot which is just under $2M. Pretty sure they’ve done that.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Jim Callis say the Braves only offering 40% slot value, and its more likely Stewart ends up at State.

 

[HueFreeze]

ASSUMING stewart doesn't sign ...what is the process with juco or msu?
TIA

 

[BiscuitEater]

That would be insane. Would be crazy lucky to have 2 first rounders signed in one year. I couldn’t even imagine anything like this happening until just now.

Insane stats ..

Standing 6-6, Carter Stewart jumped onto the national scene and scouts’ radars as a junior at Melbourne, Fla.'s Eau Gallie High School in 2017. That season, he compiled a 0.81 ERA to go along with an 11-2 record and 104 strikeouts in 69 1/3 innings pitched, earning him Underclass All-American Honors from Perfect Game USA.

He was also invited to play that summer in the Perfect Game All-American Classic at Petco Park, where he threw a spotless fifth inning that included a strikeout. This spring has been much of the same for Stewart, as the now 18-year-old has accumulated a 0.91 ERA and 128 strikeouts in 61 2/3 innings on the mound. He’s also displayed a durability that many prep pitchers have not, as he’s recorded four complete game efforts this season, all of them shutouts.

 

[msstate7]

Have to offer 40% of slot which is just under $2M. Pretty sure they’ve done that.

Yep. I was way off on actual offer

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

ASSUMING stewart doesn't sign ...what is the process with juco or msu?
TIA

Braves people are saying that he is going JUCO so he only has to wait one year to go into the draft.

 

[G-Dawg]

Good question. I don't understand how on the one hand it could be said the injury is bad enough that he shouldn't go JUCO because his draft stock wouldn't be that much better next year yet we act like if he comes to MSU he is going to be a stud for us as a Freshman? Something there isn't making much sense.

THREE WORDS: Athletic Training Staff. The Athletic training staff he would receive at a major university for rehab and recovery is a thousand times better than he would receive at a JUCO. And I know some good JUCO training staffs.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

If this is the case - why commit to State at all?

If his back-up plan after a major league contract is JUCO, why bother with us?

 

[dawgstudent]

Then why not go ahead and sign? Are you going to get better playing JUCO?