Cord Sandberg baseball career is over...

[engie]

Tweeted an hour ago that it’s football time. Figure he’s going to Florida with Dan most likely.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

How old is he?

 

[SedLexDuraLex]

Born:[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]January 2, 1995 [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]<nobr>(Age: 23-183d)</nobr>[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]in Bradenton, FL[/FONT]

 

[engie]

Was in class of 2013, so 23-24 most likely

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

23-24

 

[thatsbaseball]

I always thought Mullen got him to commit just to pump our recruiting ratings knowing full well he wasn't going to sign.

 

[engie]

He did sign. Wasn’t on the baseball radar until several months after committing to us.

Mullen was guilty of plenty but purposeful artificial recruiting ranking manipulation isn’t something we can put on him imo.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Whatever, I still say Mullen knew he was going baseball all the way

 

[StatesboroBlues]

Whatever, I still say Mullen knew he was going baseball all the way

Wrong...you obviously don’t remember how Mullen handled that QB recruiting cycle. He thought Cord was the guy and didn’t worry with a second QB until late in the game. In all reality...we could have warranted a 2nd QB the whole cycle. Much less when Cord starting blowing up on the baseball field.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I remember the kid wasn't even a first or second round pick and STILL went baseball. He wasn't going undrafted and had his heart set on playing baseball come hell or high water. Buy hey it made the class look good for a while.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

We should have signed Josh Dobbs in that class, but he did not want to be the 2nd QB in a 2 QB class. Sandberg was somewhat of a baseball risk all along, but his baseball stock skyrocketed late. Mullen did somewhat mishandle the situation, but the Dead injuns took over the process also. We ended up signing Damien Williams - flipped from USM when offered just before signing day

 

[maroonmania]

Just holding on in baseball until Mullins got to Florida.***

 

[Go Budaw]

I think we’d still have to release him from the LOI, correct? Otherwise, he would have to enroll at a JUCO for at least a year before next recruiting cycle. I think his existing LOI is still in effect since he never started his clock by enrolling anywhere and taking classes.

ETA: To whoever downvoted this, why don’t you kindly explain the situation for the rest of us? Because the scenario above was discussed ad nauseum on all the boards for about half a decade as the reason why we wouldn’t have to re-recruit him if he ever dropped baseball.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

I think we’d still have to release him from the LOI, correct? Otherwise, he would have to enroll at a JUCO for at least a year before next recruiting cycle. I think his existing LOI is still in effect since he never started his clock by enrolling anywhere and taking classes.

I so hope this is true

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Dobbs? That guy is tyler Russell 2.0. Plenty talent....no winning fiber.

 

[dmc234]

Word is offers from Auburn and LSU... Fla doesn’t have space and no word from MSU

 

[patdog]

No. The LOI is only binding for 1 year.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Sandberg's deal in 2013 was for $775,000, even though his slotted signing bonus would have been $593,400. I believe the deal even included language that the Phillies would cover the cost of tuition "to attend Mississippi State" if the baseball career didn't pan out. That said, I'd imagine the Phillies don't care where he goes to school.

Will be interesting to see what he does.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Word is offers from Auburn and LSU... Fla doesn’t have space and no word from MSU

Mullen can “process” one of his 3 Star signees to make room for Cord can’t he?***

 

[Go Budaw]

No. The LOI is only binding for 1 year.

Wrong. Read below (and/or click link) from the official NLI website. All of the below criteria apply to Sandberg. Meaning, we must release him from NLI for him to go to any other school. Likewise, we are still bound by the NLI to put him on scholarship and count him against the 85 for this upcoming season if he chooses to enroll at MSU, regardless of what Moorhead thinks about it (unless we have no room due to hitting the 85 limit already, which isn’t the case).

“FAILURE TO ENROLL: If a prospective student-athlete was admitted to the signing institution and was initially eligible but fails to enroll at the signing institution, he or she has not fulfilled the NLI agreement to attend the signing institution for one academic year. The NLI would remain binding.”

Furthermore, I was also wrong about the going to JUCO for one year being able to clear him. According to the same document, an NLI can only be fulfilled by the student athlete by attending the institution he/she signed with for one academic year, or attending AND graduating from a two-year institution in the event that he/she was not eligible for the signed institution. This means JUCO for 1-2 years isn’t even an option to get out of it if he was initially eligible at MSU.

All that being said, it is a possibility that we would release him from the NLI, given that both his and our circumstances have changed so much since 2013. But, we’d be damn foolish to not place restriction on releasing him to another team on our schedule next year (or in the next couple of years).

 

[HumpDawgy]

Powe says...."Dang....that an old dude"!

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

He did sign. Wasn’t on the baseball radar until several months after committing to us.

Mullen was guilty of plenty but purposeful artificial recruiting ranking manipulation isn’t something we can put on him imo.

Stansbury was far more guilty of this in the pre one-and-done era than Mullen ever was.

 

[DreadNought.sixpack]

If he waits 6 more years he can QB for BYU.

 

[engie]

No. The LOI is only binding for 1 year.

Pretty sure we've been down this road before and shown that he's still bound to his letter to MSU. That said, he's going to get an unconditional release, I'm sure.

 

[kendesu]

Stansbury was guilty of "purposeful artificial recruiting ranking manipulation"? Are you saying he shouldn't have signed Bender, Outlaw, and Ellis?

 

[Go Budaw]

Pretty sure we've been down this road before and shown that he's still bound to his letter to MSU. That said, he's going to get an unconditional release, I'm sure.

Or, more likely, he already has the release and got it a long time ago since he already has an offer in hand from Auburn (otherwise they would be guilty of tampering). Would suck if we have to deal with him for 3-4 years after Stidham leaves because of an unconditional release, but it is what it is I suppose.

 

[Dawgzilla]

An LOI is only enforceable for 4 years. There are some websites that say it is only enforceable fro 1 year and then the player can seek to sign elsewhere, but that doesn't really matter here. On its face, an LOI is only enforceable for 4 years, so I think Cord has outlived it.

 

[fishwater99]

Dobbs? That guy is tyler Russell 2.0. Plenty talent....no winning fiber.

Tyler would have been a great QB fro us if Dan would have ran a different offense. Like put in a FB to block for the pro style QB.
Oh wait Mullen can't adapt his offense because Urban didn't teach him that. One trick pony. Won't last long at UF..

 

[Go Budaw]

An LOI is only enforceable for 4 years. There are some websites that say it is only enforceable fro 1 year and then the player can seek to sign elsewhere, but that doesn't really matter here. On its face, an LOI is only enforceable for 4 years, so I think Cord has outlived it.

That is not listed anywhere on the NLI website, which contains any and all language related to the NLI.

ETA: Disregard....I’m an idiot.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Maybe Vernon Goodridge would be a better example

 

[Dawgzilla]

It is actually posted directly on the NLI website, which says letters of intent contain this provision:

"[h=1]Statute of Limitations[/h]I am subject to the NLI penalty if I do not fulfill the agreement; however, if I do not attend an NLI member institution to fulfill the agreement or penalty and four years has elapsed since my signing date, the NLI is no longer binding. Therefore, this NLI is in full force and effect for a period of four years, commencing with the date I sign this NLI, if I do not attend an NLI member institution during the period of four years."

Link to NLI website, which is linked from NCAA.org


See also, athleticscholarship.net, which is a website designed to help athletes understand the recruiting rules and to protect themselves:

https://www.athleticscholarships.net/what-is-the-national-letter-of-intent.htm

"Provision 10 – Statute of Limitations
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This section says the entire contract is void after four years if you do nothing. Do not worry about the section; there are several appeals, releases or penalties that can be served in order to get passed the NLI before a four year period."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I also found this on Al.com, but the article is from 2011 so the rules obviously could have changed (but based on my above links, I don't think they have changed):[/FONT]
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/11/college_athletes_rights_nation.html

[FONT=Benton Sans, Arial, sans-serif]"The NLI is a one-year contract with a four-year statute of limitations, Peal said, but "the statute of limitations only applies if a prospective student-athlete does not fulfill the agreement. For example, the prospective student-athlete signs an NLI but does not enroll at the signing institution. The prospective student-athlete is subject to the NLI penalty for a four-year time period if he or she never fulfills the agreement. After four years has elapsed the NLI is null and void which means it is no longer applicable so the prospective student-athlete would not be subject to the NLI penalty."[/FONT]

[FONT=Benton Sans, Arial, sans-serif]I also think that general contract law could apply. You cannot sign a lifetime deal that provides no valuable consideration in return. For such a deal to be enforceable, it would have to be clear on its face what you were signing....and the mere fact we are having this conversation proves the NLI does not obviously contain language that it is enforceable in perpetuity [/FONT]

 

[Go Budaw]

Ah. Buried deep in the fine print. I stand corrected. Guess that settles it that he is a free man as far as CFB is concerned.