Let's listen again to Cohen's interview on Head to Head...

[dawgstudent]

What checkboxes does Lemonis check? I think Cohen learned a lesson in this - don't speak in definitives until the ink is dry.

http://media.sixpackspeak.com/Cohen_jobinterest.mp3

http://media.sixpackspeak.com/Cohen_snippet.mp3

 

[msstate7]

Cohen was gonna hire tadlock, Corbin, McDonnell, or schloss, but lemonis blew him away. Let the spin begin...

 

[engie]

Yep. Should have just stayed silent on it. You can't say what he said then go hire the guy from Indiana that has not yet won a regional. I don't know enough about Lemonis to speak authoritatively as to just how good or bad of hire he was. But Cohen will take his punches and be fine, provided that this hire works out. If the returning team doesn't win 40 next year and make another run at least to supers, there is going to rightfully be some heat there. It's just not the splash that we were promised for the opening of the new stadium.

 

[dawgstudent]

With that begin said, it's all spilled milk now. Welcome Coach Lemonis and let's keep this damn train going!

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Cohen’s quotes were the equivalent of promising your wife for months that you were gonna take her to the Hawaii for a vacation. On the day of the vacation you really have rented a house for the weekend on the Ross Barnett Reservoir. Still could possibly have fun but def not what she was expecting after what you had hyped up.

 

[Shmuley]

When Bastard gives you Lemonis, you make Lemonisade.

 

[dawgstudent]

From the snippet....

• Serious college head coaching experience - No
• Made trips to Omaha - Yes as an assistant
• Expertise in all facets of the game - ??
• Make our fanbase very happy - ??

 

[cristilmethod]

It seems pretty clear that when Cohen made those comments, he had a handshake agreement with a name that met those qualifications. It's just not like him to make such a brash, seemingly uncalculated statement. Who knows. I think regardless he'd love to have those words back, but he'll be fine. Just win, Lemonis.

 

[dawgstudent]

If Cohen didn't make his statements - we would have hired an "up and comer in the college baseball world that loves recruiting". I think most would be viewing this like Moorhead.

 

[msudawg200]

I think he could argue all of those points. But at a minimum, he’d be wrong on the last.

That said, I am glad we did not settle for Gary as much as I appreciate the effort this year.

 

[dawgstudent]

He had a handshake deal with Schlossnagle in my opinion. There were plenty rumors coming out of Omaha that he was still wanting the job.

 

[Drebin]

It seems pretty clear that when Cohen made those comments, he had a handshake agreement with a name that met those qualifications. It's just not like him to make such a brash, seemingly uncalculated statement. Who knows. I think regardless he'd love to have those words back, but he'll be fine. Just win, Lemonis.

This has been what I felt all along - that our run in the WS ended up costing us one of those guys that we originally had a handshake deal with. I wouldn't trade that run though...we'll be talking about it for a long time.

This guy is probably going to do fine. The grace period will be non-existent though, because Cohen didn't exactly set him up for success out of the gate.

 

[CuzDawg]

Oh the spin will definitely be coming. The MSU media will lap up everything the MSU AThletic dept tells them and also make excuses on 24/7. Hell they’ve already been doing that for a while now.

 

[G-Dawg]

This has been what I felt all along - that our run in the WS ended up costing us one of those guys that we originally had a handshake deal with. I wouldn't trade that run though...we'll be talking about it for a long time.

This guy is probably going to do fine. The grace period will be non-existent though, because Cohen didn't exactly set him up for success out of the gate.

I don't think it was our Omaha run as much as it was probably some news/info on Schloss that spooked Cohen. Can't really blame him after what happened with Cann. I think he promised all those things because Schloss was in the bag.

 

[cristilmethod]

Only at Mississippi State could a potentially-huge name hire be torpedoed by... more success? I'm with you, though - wouldn't trade the run to the CWS. With the roster we have coming back, the grace period will definitely be brief.

 

[Drebin]

I don't think it was our Omaha run as much as it was probably some news/info on Schloss that spooked Cohen. Can't really blame him after what happened with Cann. I think he promised all those things because Schloss was in the bag.

Maybe, maybe not. I firmly believe that if we had gotten booted in the regional, we probably would've gotten one of those tier 1 guys. It's around that time they all started signing extensions/pulling their name.

I don't think this is necessarily a "settle" hire for Cohen though. It's clear that he's had a deal in place for some time....otherwise the announcement wouldn't be so sudden. So that gives me a little optimism.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Oh the spin will definitely be coming. The MSU media will lap up everything the MSU AThletic dept tells them and also make excuses on 24/7. Hell they’ve already been doing that for a while now.

Gene is already posting that he is not only a great recruiter, but the best recruiter in the nation.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Oh Gene.

 

[Shmuley]

Seems legit **

 

[WutheringDawg]

Gene is already posting that he is not only a great recruiter, but the best recruiter in the nation.

That is almost verbatim what Cohen said this morning on OOB. I'm sure the guy can recruit his tail off, and I saw a blurb from Teddy Cahill on twitter this morning that all but said the same thing, but best in the country feels a little heavy handed.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Cohen was gonna hire tadlock, Corbin, McDonnell, or schloss, but lemonis blew him away. Let the spin begin...

1. Cohen should NEVER made ANY public statement about HC hire (see 'how' Cohen hired a FB HC); HUGE mistake!
2. Nobody, including IB had any idea we would get through a regional, much less make the CWS
2. Getting to the CWS changed 'everything' WRT HC hire; compounded hire by orders of magnitude
3. The hire became public (think UT & FL football HC hires) instead of 'out of sight' like JoMo's hire
4. ANY hire that didn't meet Cohen's 'public statement' would/will be QUESTIONED!

 

[maroonmania]

Cohen’s quotes were the equivalent of promising your wife for months that you were gonna take her to the Hawaii for a vacation. On the day of the vacation you really have rented a house for the weekend on the Ross Barnett Reservoir. Still could possibly have fun but def not what she was expecting after what you had hyped up.

I wouldn't go that far. Maybe more like expecting a trip to Hawaii and ending up on a Gulf Coast beach. Still pretty nice but nowhere near where you had set your expectations.

 

[diggidydog]

I believe that this is what happened as well

 

[BiscuitEater]

Oh the spin will definitely be coming. The MSU media will lap up everything the MSU AThletic dept tells them and also make excuses on 24/7. Hell they’ve already been doing that for a while now.

There are two options.

1. Crap on AD for 'public statements' and new HC 'cause he doesn't match 'quals' IB listed.

2. Accept AD made a 'mistake' and get behind new MSU BB HC. Forgive & move on.

 

[Shamoan]

Definitely a swing and miss on the last point, but honestly, making us happy shouldn't be a goal. Winning and doing so at a high level should.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

I don't think it was our Omaha run as much as it was probably some news/info on Schloss that spooked Cohen. Can't really blame him after what happened with Cann. I think he promised all those things because Schloss was in the bag.

This

 

[civildawg88]

Matt Wyatt already toting water on Twitter for Cohen

 

[olblue.sixpack]

This has been what I felt all along - that our run in the WS ended up costing us one of those guys that we originally had a handshake deal with. I wouldn't trade that run though...we'll be talking about it for a long time.

This guy is probably going to do fine. The grace period will be non-existent though, because Cohen didn't exactly set him up for success out of the gate.

Succinct and most likely accurate.

Young posters, please take note of this style.

 

[maroonmania]

Only at Mississippi State could a potentially-huge name hire be torpedoed by... more success? I'm with you, though - wouldn't trade the run to the CWS. With the roster we have coming back, the grace period will definitely be brief.

Exactly, we are MState where we don't get our first choice because our team kept the season alive too long AND where a stray fly ball into the outfield finds our starting pitcher's pitching elbow which may have potentially affected his effectiveness during the elimination game he pitched the next day. You really can't make this stuff up.

 

[Len2003]

I hope he can recruit because we need someone to turn us back into an elite program. We could and should be an elite program, but people are fooling themselves if they think we are currently a top tier elite program. We have made runs here and there but we’ve been wildly inconsistent. We’ve let too many programs pass us. FL and Vandy got natties. AR is playing for one, and Auburn is becoming a serious threat. We got damn lucky Ole Miss didn’t get one this year. Is KY next? If this guy can recruit and close the talent gap, I’m all for him. As much as I loved this year, there is no reason we should not be competing for conference championships and Omaha every year.

 

[Go Budaw]

When Bastard gives you Lemonis, you make Lemonisade.

My question is did IB consult the Banana Gods before bringing this rival fruit into our clubhouse? Maybe his biggest blunder yet if not.

 

[She Mate Me]

Matt Wyatt already toting water on Twitter for Cohen

I like Matt a lot, but he's going to tote the water. He's an employee.

 

[WutheringDawg]

I hope he can recruit because we need someone to turn us back into an elite program. We could and should be an elite program, but people are fooling themselves if they think we are currently a top tier elite program. We have made runs here and there but we’ve been wildly inconsistent. We’ve let too many programs pass us. FL and Vandy got natties. AR is playing for one, and Auburn is becoming a serious threat. We got damn lucky Ole Miss didn’t get one this year. Is KY next? If this guy can recruit and close the talent gap, I’m all for him. As much as I loved this year, there is no reason we should not be competing for conference championships and Omaha every year.

I think you're underselling the state of the program. We've had top five classes two out of the last four years. Been to the CWS twice in the last five, a hairs breadth away from playing for our second NC in that same amount of time. Been to three straight supers and we've made the NCAA tournament in 7 of the 10 seasons in the last decade. We have won the regular season championship and the tournament championship in that time as well. Our recent history is not the issue, it has been as elite as a lot of programs.

When you talk about teams like Florida, Vandy and South Carolina passing us by, yes that happens and it sucked but that hay was made when Larry Templeton let Pat Mcmahon walk after three years of success and we went through Polk 2.0. I know it's been rehashed time and again, but that is when we plateaued while these other programs continued to grow.

 

[8dog]

We dont have the pitching to expect a super regional next year

 

[johnson86-1]

Cohen’s quotes were the equivalent of promising your wife for months that you were gonna take her to the Hawaii for a vacation. On the day of the vacation you really have rented a house for the weekend on the Ross Barnett Reservoir. Still could possibly have fun but def not what she was expecting after what you had hyped up.

Actually, it's more like promising your wife you are going to take her to Lebanon, her getting excited and telling all her friends about her upcoming international trip, and then you take her to Lebanon, New hampshire to watch the fall foliage come in.

Perfectly nice trip and something she would have been excited about if you had told her Lebanon, New Hampshire to begin with even if she had never heard of lebanon new hampshire before. But hard not to compare it to an international trip to Lebanon after getting her hopes up.

 

[tatedog]

Gene is already posting that he is not only a great recruiter, but the best recruiter in the nation.

Even better than Hugh Freeze loose in Tampa with a UHaul full of red duffel bags? We can hope.

 

[cristilmethod]

I like Matt a lot, but he's going to tote the water. He's an employee.

Matt may be the only person on this earth that has been accused of toting water for both Ole Miss AND MSU.

 

[Go Budaw]

I don't think it was our Omaha run as much as it was probably some news/info on Schloss that spooked Cohen. Can't really blame him after what happened with Cann. I think he promised all those things because Schloss was in the bag.

That or Schloss just got cold feet, which would have happened regardless of how far we went in the tourney. Or he just wanted a raise. We’ll never know.

 

[DerHntr]

If Cohen didn't make his statements - we would have hired an "up and comer in the college baseball world that loves recruiting". I think most would be viewing this like Moorhead.

Is he an up and comer that would have gotten the fanbase excited? Nobody seems to know **** about him.

 

[HotMop]

I don't know enough about Lemonis to speak authoritatively

DS...close up shop, this may be a first.