Billingsley to start on Friday.

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Per Carskadon.

 

[8dog]

Why are we announcing this today?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Bait and switch ?

 

[MissState1]

I like this move.

 

[Go Budaw]

Why are we announcing this today?

I don’t think it matters that much in this instance. It takes like 10 minutes to fill out a lineup card for a certain pitcher. All the scouting is done well in advance. I can assure you both Casey and Fox already have a lineup prepared for Small, Billingsley, France, and maybe even a few others. We’d have to announce by 30 min prior to gametime, at which they just decide their lineup to match. They also don’t have the luxury of deciding a certain pitcher to match up with our guy. They have to throw the best guy they have regardless.

 

[patdog]

Risky move. Hope it works.

 

[Xenomorph]

Sometimes...

 

[Tall Dawg]

Risky move. Hope it works.

Exactly and u won a barrel of bananas for this comment!
I would have gone with Small Friday. Whatever...

 

[WutheringDawg]

I've been thinking about it for a while and I have come around to the Billingsley side. We're the only team on the side of the bracket that is in a position to play for the championship series. We have margin for error. Could that bite us in the ***? Possibly, but start billingsley with a full bullpen and play to have small available for game one of the championship series. Gary is not thinking one game at a time, he's positioning us to win it all.

 

[MSUDC11]

Risky move. Hope it works.

There’s also risk with starting Small, especially if it’s against Heimlich/Oregon State.

 

[HueFreeze]

last year oregon state was in our position and started their #1 ...it didn't work for them or did their #2 the next night as LSU faced florida in the championship.

There are pros and cons to both.
I think I lean towards billingsley friday and small saturday if necessary ...you have to get 1 more win before the other games even matter
if billingsley wins friday you are throwing your best haymaker in game 1

you throw small and lose friday ...you are 17'ed and banana pudding

 

[AlCoDog]

JB going to deal.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

The big question is... nickelblacks?

 

[maroonmania]

last year oregon state was in our position and started their #1 ...it didn't work for them or did their #2 the next night as LSU faced florida in the championship.

There are pros and cons to both.
I think I lean towards billingsley friday and small saturday if necessary ...you have to get 1 more win before the other games even matter
if billingsley wins friday you are throwing your best haymaker in game 1

you throw small and lose friday ...you are 17'ed and banana pudding

Yep, its not brain science. Its either Billingsley and then Small or Small and then Billingsley. If you go Billingsley and he wins then you are set up perfectly for the championship series. If you pitch Billingsley and he loses well then you've burned Billingsley and will have to burn Small the next day which doesn't set you up well for the championship series but gives you a good chance of winning on Saturday. Could end up burning both either way though as there is no guarantee we get the win Friday even with Small especially since he likely goes against OSU's #1. In 2013 though we did pitch our #1, Graveman, on Friday and it bit us in the butt during the championship series as he would have only been available for the 3rd game which never happened.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I like it. UNC/OSU is going to throw their best available because they must win. If they do win, they throw their second best available. We can throw our second best against their best. If we lose, we throw our best against their second best and have a much better shot at winning the second game.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Maroon cause we are playing Friday. Nickelblacks are Sunday attire

 

[snoopdog]

Small going Friday...

Would allow Small to also go Wednesday. A 2 appearance option that is negated by Small going Saturday. I say Small Friday with an option for Wednesday

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Aggressive play, but I like it. At this point - play to win the damned tournament. Our best chance to win the CWS is for Small & Pilkington to start Monday & Tuesday night. It is risky though because if we lose Friday and have to use Small Saturday, he would probably would not be available for the final series.

 

[Go Budaw]

Would allow Small to also go Wednesday. A 2 appearance option that is negated by Small going Saturday. I say Small Friday with an option for Wednesday

I think Small would get a few innings in Game 3 (if we made it) even if he threw Saturday. May not be a start, but he’d be available in a championship game. The difference is he’d be able to comfortably go 5-6 innings on 4 days rest, vs. maybe 3-4 on 3 days rest. Difference is a couple of innings in availability between pitching Friday vs. Saturday, with the upside being a fully rested Small if we win with Billingsley. Well worth the risk, I think.

 

[kendesu]

I would have been good with Small, but I like this move if it is true. We're playing to win the whole thing.

 

[jdbulldog]

JB and JP will get it done Friday.

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Billingsley is going to get Shelled Against Oregon State. Should be France or Small going.

 

[MSUDC11]

Billingsley is going to get Shelled Against Oregon State. Should be France or Small going.

They have to beat us twice. They will see Small and France before the weekend is over if we need to use them.

We can hit too, you know. Especially against a tired pitching staff. We will be facing their number two guy on three days rest, and they extended several important bullpen arms tonight.

We are still in the driver’s seat at the moment. Even if we lose, they still have to beat Small on Saturday and their pitching will be even more depleted then. They are a great team but I’m comfortable with where we are right now.

 

[hatfieldms]

I swear some of you are convinced we are playing the ‘27 Yankees tomorrow

 

[AssEndDawg]

I love it. One thing to consider is that OSU usually starts hitting later in the game. This could be they like relief pitching but it could also mean they are good at reading pitchers and do much better when they have already seen someone. I would love to see Billingsley get you through 4 or 5 and then I would not let the OSU batters see the same pitcher more than once the rest of the game. Unless you hit on a specific left/right matchup you aren't going to pitch to more than 9 guys, probably less. Of course that all depends on the score but I just wouldn't let them get used to any one guy.

So they will be throwing Fehmel on 3 days rest.. is that right? is he their ace or is Heimlich?

 

[hatfieldms]

I love how they are throwing their #2 on three days rest and we are terrified, yet if Small were to pitch tomorrow there is absolutely no way he could pitch next week. No way at all

 

[ShrubDog]

Would allow Small to also go Wednesday. A 2 appearance option that is negated by Small going Saturday. I say Small Friday with an option for Wednesday

Problem with that is we might not be playing on Wednesday.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Heimlich looks to be the ace, but Fehmel isn't too bad. Heimlich is the strikeout pitcher while Fehmel puts more balls in play.

The numbers on OSU do not lie: the PAC-12 makes their pitchers look good. Heimlich has a 2.28 ERA in conference and a 3.66 out of conference. Fehmel is 2.55 in conference and 3.82 out of conference. For comparison, Pilk is 5.49 in conference and 3.00 out of conference, and Billingsley is 6.39 in conference and 3.26 out of conference. Small is our only starter with an inverted ERA, a respectably close 2.73 in conference and 3.15 out of conference.

After saying that, they're probably going to hang a couple 9-0 games on us.

 

[Lou3000]

So, what's that mean for Joe Demers who is 3.69 in conference?

 

[Bulldogg31]

Heimlich went 2.33 innings and gave up 6 ER in Game 1, then went 2.67 innings yesterday giving up 3 ER.

So 5 innings pitched and 9 ER?

That's a CWS ERA of 16.2, right?

I don't get the hype.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

I swear some of you are convinced we are playing the ‘27 Yankees tomorrow

I wish we were....they're all dead.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Heimlich went 2.33 innings and gave up 6 ER in Game 1, then went 2.67 innings yesterday giving up 3 ER.

So 5 innings pitched and 9 ER?

That's a CWS ERA of 16.2, right?

I don't get the hype.

Because vs the Pac-12 this year he had an ERA of 2.28, was 9-1 (15-1 overall) vs the other team's aces, , had 100 strikeouts vs 11 walks, gave up just 2 HR's in 10 games, is the current National Pitcher of the Year, last year was the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year and was on the Golden Spikes Award watch list, leading the nation with a 0.81 ERA, etc, etc.

Leave it to you to think the only thing that matters is his 2 appearances in the CWS.

Unreal.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Because vs the Pac-12 this year he had an ERA of 2.28, was 9-1 (15-1 overall) vs the other team's aces, , had 100 strikeouts vs 11 walks, gave up just 2 HR's in 10 games, is the current National Pitcher of the Year, last year was the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year and was on the Golden Spikes Award watch list, leading the nation with a 0.81 ERA, etc, etc.

Leave it to you to think the only thing that matters is his 2 appearances in the CWS.

Unreal.

Well, ok then. You feel better? Look, we're gonna have to figure out how to get along or the rest of the board is gonna run us both out on a rail. Frankly I'm not ok with being as associated with you as I've let this become.

I know this. That mother 17'er got his dick knocked in the dirt when he faced a decent North Carolina team. Maybe the PAC-12 is a bunch of light hitting ladies? I don't know. I do know I'd rather face him that that kid from Washington again I promise you.

Now, are you gonna play nice or am I gonna have to just mute you? Show me you are capable of grown up behavior.

This is my last response to a post of this nature from you.

Hail State, Go Dogs.

 

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Anyone got Heimlich numbers during the tourney?

 

[Bulldogg31]

Anyone got Heimlich numbers during the tourney?

I posted below, but in his two games against UNC he got hit pretty hard. Nine earned runs in 5 innings of work over 2 different games. 16.2 ERA.

I'm wondering if not getting drafted let the air out of his balloon.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I wish we were....they're all dead.

I see what you did there.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Agreed

 

[Len2003]

At this point, you’re managing the pitching to win the whole thing, not just from game to game. It does you no good to burn Small in an attempt to get to the national championship series and loose it. The safer gamble is Billingsley.

I’d put our bats up against anyone in the country right now. If we were able to get through those two phenomenal pitchers for UNC and Washington, we can get through OSU.

 

[snoopdog]

Starting Billingsley was not only the wrong move...

But it has turned into a horrible move that gives back any advantage we had.