The Grand Slam

[Desoto]

Please help. I understand unearned runs are ruled that way bc of an error, but why were ALL 4 ruled that way?

 

[CochiseCowbell]

They are wrong.

 

[Desoto]

I asked a sports writer and was mocked for asking the question. Prob bc he is getting asked about everything, but I really don’t understand it.

 

[bigiron.sixpack]

Jim said the reason is that the inning was extended due to an error.

 

[patdog]

The reasoning is the pitcher would have been out of the inning if not for the error, so all runs scored after he should have been out of it are unearned. I don't like that rule, but it is the rule.

 

[Drebin]

They are correct. If that error doesn't occur, Skelton's ****** at bat would have been the third out of the inning. However, it was only the second out due to the previous error, which extended the inning for Banana boy to come up and hit his grand slam.

 

[Desoto]

Thanks. The pack is better than google.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Only if Engie replies

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Jim said the reason is that the inning was extended due to an error.

I'm dumb then. I've never heard that.

 

[Paperdog]

College baseball has team/individual earned/unearned runs

As the other posters have said, all runs after the inning (in theory) should have been over are unearened

However, if a new pitcher had entered and allowed the home run ... it would have been scored individual earned/team unearned

So it would have counted against the pitcher's ERA but not the team's ERA

Please help. I understand unearned runs are ruled that way bc of an error, but why were ALL 4 ruled that way?

 

[Desoto]

Thanks for the help.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

As the other posters have said, all runs after the inning (in theory) should have been over are unearened

However, if a new pitcher had entered and allowed the home run ... it would have been scored individual earned/team unearned

So it would have counted against the pitcher's ERA but not the team's ERA

Ok, this makes much more sense.

 

[thf24]

The reasoning is the pitcher would have been out of the inning if not for the error, so all runs scored after he should have been out of it are unearned. I don't like that rule, but it is the rule.

That rule is absolutely terrible. By that logic, you could potentially go back and argue that an error on the first AB of the inning makes all runs that inning unearned if the inning plays out right.

 

[thekimmer]

That rule is absolutely terrible. By that logic, you could potentially go back and argue that an error on the first AB of the inning makes all runs that inning unearned if the inning plays out right.

True but its a rule that has no bearing on the game. The runs count the same no matter how they are scored. It affects one stat and that is the pitchers ERA. I couldn't care less.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

you guys do know the stats don't really mean anything.

 

[mount lefroy]

People hear the word 'earned' and think because it's not, we didnt earn it.

Ok, this makes much more sense.

The idea behind 'earned' runs is to rate a pitcher on those runs that he gives up due to hitting or his own mistakes.

he didnt 'earn' the runs. The terminology is ambiguous.

 

[rem101]

One of the announcers said the 12-2 score didn't tell the whole story of the game, I assume due to errors and their starter having a good outing until the end. But it told me everything I needed to know - we scored 10 more runs than they did, no matter how they came across the plate. I think one of the first things I learned in little league was if you put the ball in play, good things can happen.

 

[HumpDawgy]

I saw 4 runs go on the board, so I could give a rat's arse what they want to be called. Unearned runs can still EARN you a vict'ry!!!

 

[RocketDawg]

I never understood why a walk results in an unearned run and not hurt the pitcher's ERA. It was the pitcher's fault he walked the guy, so he should be held accountable.

 

[MSUDC11]

I never understood why a walk results in an unearned run and not hurt the pitcher's ERA. It was the pitcher's fault he walked the guy, so he should be held accountable.

Unearned runs only happen because of an error somewhere in the inning. If you walk four guys in a row to start the inning and a run scores, that is an earned run and does hurt the pitcher’s ERA.