Vandy's RPI

[Zildjan]

Up 18. Wow. 18.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

That's ********.

 

[Zildjan]

From 38 to 20. Wow.

 

[jdbulldog]

It is rigged like everything else

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

They have no hotel rooms available. If we win we host.

 

[Go Budaw]

Its pretty irrelevant. The NCAA doesn’t officially seed any teams in any order past the first 16 teams. Contrary to popular belief, they are not a “higher” 2-seed than we are. Proximity to host locations is one of the chief considerations with how they match a 2-seed to any particular regional. Both bids will be looked at and other factors will also be considered, like travel arrangements, etc. In that regard, playing tomorrow might actually help us since NCAA might not want to make us go on another road trip after playing into Monday. Who knows.

One thing they damn sure won’t be looking at though is RPI. The Warren Nolan’s of the world are the only ones who even still look at that stuff after the teams are selected and seeded.

 

[She Mate Me]

Gotta think all the quality wins SEC teams are piling up is a lot of it.

ETA we are now 10-1 vs the Top 3 RPI teams. Incredible.

 

[msstatelp1]

They have no hotel rooms available. If we win we host.

Yep, CMA fest and Bonaroo are both this coming weekend. Hotel rooms will be hard to get.

 

[Zildjan]

I just thought it was interesting.

 

[Go Budaw]

I just thought it was interesting.

It is...just crazy how the formula can work. One big factor though is that the ebbs and flows kinda even out when you have all 300 or so D1 teams playing at once. But, when you only have about 20 teams left and they are all amongst the Top 30-40 teams in the rankings, you can see some pretty big jumps just from single outcomes, because the other teams are largely standing pat after being eliminated.

 

[tatedog]

I'm under the impression that if two equally seeded teams are vying for a host, the better bid wins. I can't fathom that Vanderbilt put in a better bid than we did, even with an incomplete stadium.

 

[tatedog]

It is...just crazy how the formula can work. One big factor though is that the ebbs and flows kinda even out when you have all 300 or so D1 teams playing at once. But, when you only have about 20 teams left and they are all amongst the Top 30-40 teams in the rankings, you can see some pretty big jumps just from single outcomes, because the other teams are largely standing pat after being eliminated.

Winning the RPI game is easy: play weak teams on the road and strong teams at home.

 

[Go Budaw]

I'm under the impression that if two equally seeded teams are vying for a host, the better bid wins. I can't fathom that Vanderbilt put in a better bid than we did, even with an incomplete stadium.

That is most of the equation, but other things come into play like hotel rooms and when/where each team finishes regional play as well. I think in our case, it will come down to just the bid in all likelihood. Super Regionals really don’t require a lot of hotel rooms (maybe 1,500 at absolute most), and there is no way that availability won’t be there in the Nashville area even with a million other things going on.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Might I suggest you try to book a room right now for next weekend in Nashville to see what is available? You might be surprised at how few near downtown will be available. But Murfreesboro is nice this time of year if you don’t mind th drive. I suspect State fans are going ahead and pre-booking for Starkvillevand Columbus right now just in case.

 

[kb549]

As someone who travels to Nashville for work

That is most of the equation, but other things come into play like hotel rooms and when/where each team finishes regional play as well. I think in our case, it will come down to just the bid in all likelihood. Super Regionals really don’t require a lot of hotel rooms (maybe 1,500 at absolute most), and there is no way that availability won’t be there in the Nashville area even with a million other things going on.

At least once or twice a month, I assure you that hotels WILL be a problem. There is not enough hotels in the Nashville metro area on weekdays when no special events are going on. I normally have to book in Murfreesboro, Lebanon, or somewhere on the outskirts. Occasionally, I get lucky and catch a cancelation near the airport.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

That is an element, but I think the high movement right now has much more to do with these being nonconference games. If you beat a team in a regional, it's not devaluing someone who half of your opponents played 3 games against.

ETA: To the extent the NCAA will look at RPI (and they'd definitely look at it before they consider our short week), I'm skeptical that they'd even update it.

 

[thekimmer]

I'm under the impression that if two equally seeded teams are vying for a host, the better bid wins. I can't fathom that Vanderbilt put in a better bid than we did, even with an incomplete stadium.

Apparently there is no set pecking order when both host sites lose in the regional round. Its up to the committee to decide however they see fit. We won that battle back when we beat clemson at DNF and as I recall Clemson had a pretty convincing case as to why it should have been them.

The logic that seems rather obvious to me is this. The national seed is guaranteed a chance to host the super if they win their regional. If the other host also loses and neither winner has a seeding advantage then that guaranteed opportunity to host should go to the national seed site winner.

 

[BiscuitEater]

It is rigged like everything else

It's NOT about RPI .. It's NOT about wins .. It's NOT about seeding or ranking .. It's ALL about the $$$.

Win today, and it's WHO submits the bid for the most $$$.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Yeah. If Nashville gets it, just go ahead and book a room in Chattanooga.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Apparently there is no set pecking order when both host sites lose in the regional round.

Yes there is! After both #1's are eliminated AND both regional winners are seeded the SAME (ie, MSU and Vandy are BOTH #2's), BOTH teams are allowed to submit bids to the NCAA to host the Super. NCAA picks the bid with the most $$$.

THAT is the pecking order!

 

[She Mate Me]

That is an element, but I think the high movement right now has much more to do with these being nonconference games. If you beat a team in a regional, it's not devaluing someone who half of your opponents played 3 games against.

ETA: To the extent the NCAA will look at RPI (and they'd definitely look at it before they consider our short week), I'm skeptical that they'd even update it.

I think you nailed it. All these games and wins against high RPI non-SEC teams is pumping the SEC teams RPIs. It doesn't really matter, but does reflect just how strong the league is this year.

 

[patdog]

The committee doesn't have to take the highest bid. It's certainly a consideration, and probably a pretty big one. But they look at all factors and pick the best deserving team.

 

[Go Budaw]

Might I suggest you try to book a room right now for next weekend in Nashville to see what is available? You might be surprised at how few near downtown will be available. But Murfreesboro is nice this time of year if you don’t mind th drive. I suspect State fans are going ahead and pre-booking for Starkvillevand Columbus right now just in case.

I didn’t say there would be rooms near downtown or even in Nashville period. But the NCAA takes into account rooms within a certain radius (like 25-30 miles) from the event. I guarantee you there will be 1000-1500 rooms available within that radius of the stadium, and there may not even need to be that many. That would include Murfreesboro, Gallatin, Lebanon, Bellevue, etc. Thats all they need to meet the requirement.