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AlSwearengen

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The first link talks about all of their injuries this season, but what stood out to me was a statement by Schlossnagle. He said “being a private school without extra financial aid”.

The article addresses tcu’s Struggles this year and to some extent the financial aid situation at tcu.

You can tell that Schlossnagle feels like he is at a disadvantage at tcu.
 
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blacklistedbully

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Looks that way. They do not appear to take advantage of being a private school with substantial endowments the way Vandy does. Then again, as I have discovered since doing more recent research, there may only be a handful that do. Some of it boils down to whether or not they want to use endowment funds to help with baseball...a money-loser.
 

blacklistedbully

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Yep. He moved way up the ladder for me. May also be a reason why he could be ready to leave. I read an article in which he was quoted as saying, unless TCU uses their endowment the way a Vandy does, he will have an ever-increasingly difficult time staying competitive.
 

AlSwearengen

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Cohen said earlier during the game when asked, “we have options” and “some of the best coaches in the nation have shown interest”.

Unless there is an attempt at a smoke screen by certain posters, it looks like it is going to be Schlossnagle.

It is obvious that he has some frustrations at TCU. Seems like a pretty competitive guy.
 

Todd4State

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Cohen said earlier during the game when asked, “we have options” and “some of the best coaches in the nation have shown interest”.

Unless there is an attempt at a smoke screen by certain posters, it looks like it is going to be Schlossnagle.

It is obvious that he has some frustrations at TCU. Seems like a pretty competitive guy.

I'm interested to see what happens. Cohen is the only one that truly knows.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Looks that way. They do not appear to take advantage of being a private school with substantial endowments the way Vandy does. Then again, as I have discovered since doing more recent research, there may only be a handful that do. Some of it boils down to whether or not they want to use endowment funds to help with baseball...a money-loser.

The Vandy “advantage” is one of those internet myths that has just taken on a life of its own.
 

AusTexDawg

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The first link talks about all of their injuries this season, but what stood out to me was a statement by Schlossnagle. He said “being a private school without extra financial aid”.

The article addresses tcu’s Struggles this year and to some extent the financial aid situation at tcu.

Here is a link to the article mentioned in OP. Good find. I imagine we may find ourselves following the Big XII tournament more closely than usual.
 

blacklistedbully

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The Vandy “advantage” is one of those internet myths that has just taken on a life of its own.

Too many AD's, HC's and knowledgeable sports media saying it. Even Vandy's own website supports it. It is no "internet myth".

With their Operation Vanderbilt program they instituted, since 2009 they now meet any and all aid, not with loans...but with scholarships and grants that never have to be repaid. They offer this to every student, athlete or not.

Do your research and you will find there is a distinction between most private schools and those with huge endowments that are willing to use it to get what some call, "free players" at Vandy. Vandy is known as the #1 user of this loophole.

Here's a good article by respected sports journalist Dan Collins of the Winston-Salem Journal, where he interviewed the Wake Forest AD about this very subject:
http://www.journalnow.com/college-b...cle_20fdcfe8-db67-5875-80d5-3e5c6013f51f.html

Couple of interesting tidbits:

"If no private schools ever flourished in baseball, the NCAA might feel compelled to take action. But Vanderbilt, TCU, Rice and Stanford have fielded programs that have thrived in recent seasons; in fact, Vanderbilt happens to be the defending national champion. Meanwhile, Georgia Tech, also a private institution, has won two of the past four ACC titles.


The explanation is that all of those schools spend more on academic or need-based scholarships for baseball, at least partly because they can."

""There's a direct correlation to endowment and size of packages, and academic scholarships."


Vanderbilt's endowment of $4 billion is only part of the story. What has helped Tim Corbin coach the Commodores into the elite circle of baseball programs has been how willing the school has been to spend money on academic and need-based scholarships and the programs, frameworks and considerations it has established to do so."
 
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olblue

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Too many AD's, HC's and knowledgeable sports media saying it. Even Vandy's own website supports it. It is no "internet myth".

With their Operation Vanderbilt program they instituted, since 2009 they now meet any and all aid, not with loans...but with scholarships and grants that never have to be repaid. They offer this to every student, athlete or not.

Do your research and you will find there is a distinction between most private schools and those with huge endowments that are willing to use it to get what some call, "free players" at Vandy. Vandy is known as the #1 user of this loophole.

Here's a good article by respected sports journalist Dan Collins of the Winston-Salem Journal, where he interviewed the Wake Forest AD about this very subject:
http://www.journalnow.com/college-b...cle_20fdcfe8-db67-5875-80d5-3e5c6013f51f.html

Couple of interesting tidbits:

"If no private schools ever flourished in baseball, the NCAA might feel compelled to take action. But Vanderbilt, TCU, Rice and Stanford have fielded programs that have thrived in recent seasons; in fact, Vanderbilt happens to be the defending national champion. Meanwhile, Georgia Tech, also a private institution, has won two of the past four ACC titles.


The explanation is that all of those schools spend more on academic or need-based scholarships for baseball, at least partly because they can."

""There's a direct correlation to endowment and size of packages, and academic scholarships."


Vanderbilt's endowment of $4 billion is only part of the story. What has helped Tim Corbin coach the Commodores into the elite circle of baseball programs has been how willing the school has been to spend money on academic and need-based scholarships and the programs, frameworks and considerations it has established to do so."

I probably know more about Vanderbilt than you ever will. If you want to spend your time “doing your own research” knock yourself out. You won’t change my mind.
 

BiscuitEater

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I probably know more about Vanderbilt than you ever will. If you want to spend your time “doing your own research” knock yourself out. You won’t change my mind.

'ANY' program that tolerates that 'whistling idiot' should be booted from the SEC!
 

blacklistedbully

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I probably know more about Vanderbilt than you ever will. If you want to spend your time “doing your own research” knock yourself out. You won’t change my mind.

Love how you make your quarrel with me while conveniently ignoring the info presented by what any reasonable person would consider educated sources.

If you truly want to challenge the position, go after the message rather than the messenger. You'll have more credibility.
 

blacklistedbully

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Yes, I responded to that in another thread. Collins makes an error, though later in the article they reference GT when discussing public schools with large endowments able to have an advantage in Georgia via HOPE scholarships.

Editor should have caught that. Still it's a mistake that doesn't dilute the opinion of the WF AD, or even the larger points Collins is submitting, IMO.

Things one can read from Vandy's own Chancellor as well as their Opportunity Vanderbilt website seem to confirm the stuff they were claiming about Vandy.
 

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I've had a feeling that Cohen has had a handshake agreement with someone most of the season, but some of the things he has said lately leads me to believe that he hasn't made a decision yet. He said something recently to the effect that he was going to have to tell an elite coach that they aren't getting the job. That sounds like he's been courting multiple guys. Obviously, there's only so much he can do before the season ends.
 
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