Gross revenue for sec football programs

[CLANGA]

Tennessee. $110.7 million
Alabama $108.1 million
Georgia $93.3 million
Auburn $91.7 million
LSU. $86.2 million
Florida $82.8 million
Arkansas $71.2 million
Texas A&M $70.4 million
Ole Miss $62.7 million
South Carolina $60.3 million
Kentucky. $36.4 million
Mississippi State $35.7 million
Missouri $29.2 million
Vanderbilt $29 million

Source: SDS

 

[CLANGA]

This is for the latest fiscal year.

 

[thatsbaseball]

So OM lied about their revenue too ?

 

[Dawgzilla]

I don't know why we are that much behind UM, but I suspect there is a bookkeeping issue. The numbers are reported by the individual schools, and I suspect we are leaving something out that other schools report....but I'm just guessing. Let's get Rosebowl on the case.

If I was going to guess further, I would look at licensing revenue. Since we still don't use CLC, we might not have a separate licensing revenue category for football. Or maybe I'm just full of ****, as usual.

 

[Dawgzilla]

I don't know why we are that much behind UM, but I suspect there is a bookkeeping issue. The numbers are reported by the individual schools, and I suspect we are leaving something out that other schools report....but I'm just guessing. Let's get Rosebowl on the case.

If I was going to guess further, I would look at licensing revenue. Since we still don't use CLC, we might not have a separate licensing revenue category for football. Or maybe I'm just full of ****, as usual.

Let me add, we are only about 12 million behind UMiss in total sports revenue, and there is no way we out paced them by $15M in all the other sports. That's Why I Think It's A bookkeeping difference.

 

[Mayor of Little London]

How the 17 is TN first....

 

[Crazy Cotton]

All the orange-clad hillbillies around here is probably most of that.

 

[bulldognation]

Consider the source...

Tennessee. $110.7 million
Alabama $108.1 million
Georgia $93.3 million
Auburn $91.7 million
LSU. $86.2 million
Florida $82.8 million
Arkansas $71.2 million
Texas A&M $70.4 million
Ole Miss $62.7 million
South Carolina $60.3 million
Kentucky. $36.4 million
Mississippi State $35.7 million
Missouri $29.2 million
Vanderbilt $29 million

Source: SDS

 

[kphall11]

Vandy never releases that information since they are a private school. Consider the source.

 

[Go Budaw]

Let me add, we are only about 12 million behind UMiss in total sports revenue, and there is no way we out paced them by $15M in all the other sports. That's Why I Think It's A bookkeeping difference.

$12 milion is still a **** ton for us to be behind in overall sports when we have essentially equal fan support across the board in terms of overall numbers. Its not like VHS holds or draws 30k more per game than DWS. So where is the gap really coming from?

 

[TBone.sixpack]

From a University that is all image no substance. I have come to not believe a single thing they put out. They are a culture built on lies.

 

[patdog]

Take all lists of sports revenue by school with a huge grain of salt. It’s obvious there are major differences in the accounting by different schools. Its comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Dawgzilla]

$12 milion is still a **** ton for us to be behind in overall sports when we have essentially equal fan support across the board in terms of overall numbers. Its not like VHS holds or draws 30k more per game than DWS. So where is the gap really coming from?

Probably donations, although I don't have the data to back that up. They probably out pace us in licensing revenue as well, although I would really like to see those numbers.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I thought “donations” go to “foundations”. I would think “revenue” would be from ticket sales and seat licensing/suite leases, sports camps, and on campus parking fees during athletic events. Add in our cut from NCAA Events by the conference members and Bowl Revenue.

So if Ole Miss did not play in a bowl and as I understand it, were not allowed to share in conference bowl revenue sharing, hoe did they even have more revenue than MSU?

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

I think you have the aswer. This is not an apples to apples comparison. My guess is that the revenue from our PSL's including club leve seats & suite rentals is BC/Foundation money & those organizations are responsible for at least some portion of the bond service from the expansions

 

[RocketDawg]

I think our numbers are low rather than OM's being high. We're not accounting for some things that others do. Our attendance is about the same as OM's (and should have been higher last season), seat premiums are probably about the same, etc.

 

[Dawgzilla]

I thought “donations” go to “foundations”. I would think “revenue” would be from ticket sales and seat licensing/suite leases, sports camps, and on campus parking fees during athletic events. Add in our cut from NCAA Events by the conference members and Bowl Revenue.

So if Ole Miss did not play in a bowl and as I understand it, were not allowed to share in conference bowl revenue sharing, hoe did they even have more revenue than MSU?

I don't know how the individual schools measured their football revenue, but total sports revenue which I was referencing is reported for Title IX equity purposes and absolutely includes cash donations.

I just looked it up and we are actually $16M behind UMiss, with most of that being donations and student fees. About $4M behind in ticket sales, but MSU is actually slightly ahead in licensing revenue.

On my phone, but here is the link. Click on each school for details:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

 

[esplanade91]

$12 milion is still a **** ton for us to be behind in overall sports when we have essentially equal fan support across the board in terms of overall numbers. Its not like VHS holds or draws 30k more per game than DWS. So where is the gap really coming from?

Ticket sales aren't what make money in college sports or professional sports. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a constant need to move teams from markets that have held them for so long. It's a big reason why I'm eternally fearful of them moving the Saints or Pelicans. Corporate sponsorships.

I have no doubt Ole Miss gets more money than us because our Learfield deals are peanuts. Outside of Ford nearly every in-venue sponsorship or banner is for a regional or state business. Before Spud McLoafers I remember us getting an occasional one or even having the regional sponsors providing more impactful "giveaways" but that all came to a stop around 2010/2011. Scott. Stricklin. Was. Not. Good. At. Marketing.

Now that Learfield and IMG College are merging we should have the same benefits that Ole Miss has with enterprise deals. Having Cohen and not Stricklin also might be great. He already wadded up and threw whatever horrible licensing deal we had in the garbage within his first year. In either case I expect the two schools to come closer together in $$$$.