Potential WBB Grad Transfer

crackerjax

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Anriel Howard, grad transfer from Texas A&M who averaged 12 pts/12 rebounds this year. Had 26 and 14 against ND in the sweet 16. Saw where she is visiting UConn this weekend with visits planned to MSU and Tennessee. What are the chances we can get her here? Seems like her addition would make MSU an instant title contender again.
 
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dickiedawg

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I would think we would be an appealing landing spot, having graduated 4 starters.
She would certainly be a welcome addition.
 

maroonmania

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I would certainly love to get her and hope we do, but if I could just select what I wanted in a grad transfer for our WBB team next year it would be a big time 3 point shooter. With McCowan and Bibby we should be more than fine with our post play but at guard we just seem to have some slashers but no real shooters. Hopefully Myah Taylor can help there and the UConn transfer is apparently a good perimeter shooter but I don't believe she is eligible next season.
 

crackerjax

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I would certainly love to get her and hope we do, but if I could just select what I wanted in a grad transfer for our WBB team next year it would be a big time 3 point shooter. With McCowan and Bibby we should be more than fine with our post play but at guard we just seem to have some slashers but no real shooters. Hopefully Myah Taylor can help there and the UConn transfer is apparently a good perimeter shooter but I don't believe she is eligible next season.

Chloe Jackson from LSU (their starting SG and leading scorer at 18 ppg) is a grad transfer who would definitely fit that mold. Not sure whether she is interested in State though. Either player would be a huge pickup.

Edited to add that Howard's teammate, Danni Williams, a guard who averaged 14 ppg and shot almost 39% from 3, also is going the grad transfer route.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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And please tell me how adding her would make us a contender when we lost all of our 3 point shooters? That is a huge part of our game?
 

maroonmania

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I agree if we don't come up with a couple of players that can knock down the 3 pointer then we are going to see a lot of packed in zones next year to contend with Big T. One of the reasons Big T got so many put back points and easy baskets at the rim this season is because we had enough perimeter shooting to keep defenses honest.
 

wtw2400

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Good chance. Idk why anyone would go to Tennessee rn. Warlock is a joke.

I think our system is much more appealing than Connecticuts, and we have had more success than they have the past 2 seasons.

Sounds like a good get. Although this is the WBB version of a one and one I suppose.
 

wtw2400

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Chloe Jackson from LSU (their starting SG and leading scorer at 18 ppg) is a grad transfer who would definitely fit that mold. Not sure whether she is interested in State though. Either player would be a huge pickup.

Edited to add that Howard's teammate, Danni Williams, a guard who averaged 14 ppg and shot almost 39% from 3, also is going the grad transfer route.

Woah. Didn't realize Chloe is searching the market. That would be big for us as well. I'd be happy with Chloe or Anriel.

I am not familiar with Danni but from what you posted, she looks solid as well. This makes me think A&M is going to regress badly.
 

klong-dog

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Wow. Two of A&M's best players leaving for their senior year. That A&M coaching job might be open sooner than I thought.
 

MSUDC11

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And please tell me how adding her would make us a contender when we lost all of our 3 point shooters? That is a huge part of our game?

You must have never watched a Vic Schaefer coached team prior this year. This team was an extreme outlier as far as his style of teams go. He has forever been a defensive, gut it out kind of coach that would rather beat you 55-50 than 85-80.

We attempted way more threes this year than we ever have under Schaefer. Yes, this was his best team, and I doubt we will be as good next season, but his 2015-2017 teams that didn’t shoot a ton of threes were really good, too.

Also, it’s laughable to suggest that adding Howard wouldn’t make us a contender. She’s one of the best rebounding 4’s in the country. Pair her with McCowan and we will annihilate people on the boards. And even without Howard we are a considered a Preseason Top 10 team next year by the national media.
 
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MSUDC11

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Did they go to the Final Four?..which is the argument

Yes, the team that beat UConn and played for a title last year was more defense-oriented than we were this year and not nearly as good from three.
 

HD6

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No she can't dunk. Very few women can dunk. Are you done running this stupid ******* joke into the ground?
 

Wizard.sixpack

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Look if you think our team next year without Vivians, Johnson, Schaefer, William is going back to the Final Four you are certainly entitled to an opinion but I for one see that we are obviously going to take a step back with or without the grad transfer
 

klong-dog

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Adding her would definitely put us right back in the final 4 mix with another 8 or so teams. We definitely drop off in the shooting department. But would more than make up for it on the defensive, rebounding and athleticism end.
 

MSUDC11

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Look if you think our team next year without Vivians, Johnson, Schaefer, William is going back to the Final Four you are certainly entitled to an opinion but I for one see that we are obviously going to take a step back with or without the grad transfer

You are probably right, but they could lose in the Final Four and that would be a step back from the last two years. You are sorely underestimating how little parity there is in women’s basketball, and the fact that there are about 5 teams in the country that can handle McCowan.

We likely will take a step back next year, but I still think we’re a 25-30 win team.
 

mstateglfr

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Look if you think our team next year without Vivians, Johnson, Schaefer, William is going back to the Final Four you are certainly entitled to an opinion but I for one see that we are obviously going to take a step back with or without the grad transfer

I have read all your posts in this thread and just dont understand what tour point/mindset is.

Sure, we will take a step back next season. Probably 2 or 3 steps back. We graduated 80% of the starters and are replacing years of experience with...well less experience. We are replacing outside shooting with...well less outside shooting.

Why wouldnt we want to take a grad transfer or two that will improve the roster?
Even if we get a post player that doesnt steetch the defense, if thebdefense has to pack it in to defend the grad and T, then it gives our other 3 players more room to shoot from outside. Space helps when it comes to outside shooting, especially for bad shooters.


Im guessing here because i cant figure out what your point is, but it seems like younare saying that if we cant get back to final four level, then its not worth trying.
If thats a correct interpretstion, its a dumb viewpoint.
 

WrapItDog

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The way too early 2018-19 preseason ranking have MSU @ 8th and UConn @ 4th. They are indicating that Vic has a shot at another Final Four with the current roster and incoming recruits. Add a transfer or two and the outlook is even better.

8. Mississippi State
Vic Schaefer will have to say goodbye to the winningest senior class in program history with the departures of Victoria Vivians, Blair Schaefer and Morgan William, as well as redshirt senior Roshunda Johnson, but he brings back plenty to take a run at a third straight Final Four. Teaira McCowan, a 6-7 center, will be back as a favorite to win national player of the year, and a pair of five-star recruits -- 6-5 Daphane White and 6-3 Jessika Carter -- arrive to play with and learn from McCowan. Jazzmun Holmes is ready to assume the point guard responsibilities full time and 6-1 Australian Chloe Bibby will take on a bigger role.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-...ketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2018-19
 

Wizard.sixpack

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You are right in saying you can't figure out what my point is. My point is we are going to take a step back of course with the loss of seniors and adding the grad transfer would be wonderful and would make us better BUT imo it would not get us back to where we were. I am not saying because it won't we shouldn't even worry with a grad transfer that is a ridiculous way to interpret what I was saying. I am also not saying it would be a huge drop off either. I am talking 4 or 5 losses during regular season.
 

klong-dog

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I think our potential is still scary good. Just thinking back at that 2nd quarter against ND. We had Jazz and Danberry in wreaking havoc. You throw another great defender/rebounder such as Howard. That's nasty.

Also, we of course will miss VV but we're not dropping off at the PG position. Jazz/Taylor will be just fine. At the 2/3 pos, we're pretty much relied on the 3 ball. Next year, we'll be able to get to the basket at a much higher rate. Quickness and defensive intensity with next years rotation, will be ridiculous.
 

Joe Schmedlap

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Can she catch the ball with her back to the basket and then hit a 2 to 3 foot shot or make a wide *** open layup? If so, that’s a big, big plus.

You must have never watched a Vic Schaefer coached team prior this year. This team was an extreme outlier as far as his style of teams go. He has forever been a defensive, gut it out kind of coach that would rather beat you 55-50 than 85-80.

We attempted way more threes this year than we ever have under Schaefer. Yes, this was his best team, and I doubt we will be as good next season, but his 2015-2017 teams that didn’t shoot a ton of threes were really good, too.

Also, it’s laughable to suggest that adding Howard wouldn’t make us a contender. She’s one of the best rebounding 4’s in the country. Pair her with McCowan and we will annihilate people on the boards. And even without Howard we are a considered a Preseason Top 10 team next year by the national media.
 

mstateglfr

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You are right in saying you can't figure out what my point is. My point is we are going to take a step back of course with the loss of seniors and adding the grad transfer would be wonderful and would make us better BUT imo it would not get us back to where we were. I am not saying because it won't we shouldn't even worry with a grad transfer that is a ridiculous way to interpret what I was saying. I am also not saying it would be a huge drop off either. I am talking 4 or 5 losses during regular season.

Ok, well sure- even with a grad transfer, the team probably wont go back to the national title game and be in it tonwin until the last second.

That is a point, i guess.
 

maroonmania

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I think our potential is still scary good. Just thinking back at that 2nd quarter against ND. We had Jazz and Danberry in wreaking havoc. You throw another great defender/rebounder such as Howard. That's nasty.

Also, we of course will miss VV but we're not dropping off at the PG position. Jazz/Taylor will be just fine. At the 2/3 pos, we're pretty much relied on the 3 ball. Next year, we'll be able to get to the basket at a much higher rate. Quickness and defensive intensity with next years rotation, will be ridiculous.

You do realize in that quarter we only score 13 points ourselves. 13 points per quarter will not win you many games no matter what kind of quickness and defensive intensity you have. If our offense had been any good in that quarter the halftime deficit would have been much more than ND could have overcome.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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Anriel Howard, grad transfer from Texas A&M who averaged 12 pts/12 rebounds this year. Had 26 and 14 against ND in the sweet 16. Saw where she is visiting UConn this weekend with visits planned to MSU and Tennessee. What are the chances we can get her here? Seems like her addition would make MSU an instant title contender again.


She is visiting this weekend!!!!
 
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