Hires former player Penny Hardaway as head coach today. I can see him having success recruiting, but he has never been a coach before. Not even as an assistant. My guess is they open the bank up to hire some strong assistants for Hardaway. Since Cal left, Memphis has made some strange hires as HC. I don't see this one working either.
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He's been coaching AAU ball and killing it. How much of that is coaching and how much of it is players? I don't know. He's also probably going to bring 3 of those memphis blue chippers with him his first year. One of those being the #1 player in the country in 2019. If he can keep the Memphis talent in Memphis, he'll win a pile of games.
I hope you are right. The city needs Memphis basketball to be good.
I have no doubt that Hardaway will crush it on the recruiting trail, but its the "administrative" stuff that he'll need help on. That's where a guy like Barbee could fit.
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He's fired up their fanbase and rumors of Larry Brown coming seem to be pretty solid. I always like Penny when he played for Memphis and then when he went to the Magic.
I don't know. He should be able to kill it on the recruiting trail. And as a player, Hardaway found a way to contribute well after his athleticism left him. I generally feel like those type players make good coaches. Just a matter of whether he can teach or not.
I wish we would play Memphis every year in the non-conference. Alternating home games seems like a no brainer. However, I guess if it were that easy it would have already been arranged so who knows.
They just fired one of the best coaches in NCAA history
To gamble on a very successful AAU coach., who was holding the local talent hostage. Tubby is tied for the record of most teams taken to the NCAA tournament, and was doing a good job rebuilding Memphis. They are still suffering from scorned lover syndrome and just want Calipari II. Had they just "recruited" for Tubby behind his back, they could've had great teams. Does Penny even have his degree?
To gamble on a very successful AAU coach., who was holding the local talent hostage. Tubby is tied for the record of most teams taken to the NCAA tournament, and was doing a good job rebuilding Memphis. They are still suffering from scorned lover syndrome and just want Calipari II. Had they just "recruited" for Tubby behind his back, they could've had great teams. Does Penny even have his degree?
Tubby was not doing a great job in recruiting Memphis. Hell his recruiting outside of Memphis was awful
Tubby is not one of the best coaches in NCAA history, unless you are working off a D list.
Define "best", he has almost 600 wins. That's a pretty select list. Plus a natty. He has also taken every team he has coached to the tournament, except Memphis. While at Memphis, his recruiting efforts were being sabatoged by one one Memphis' most recognized alumni, who now happens to have his job.
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Tubby was doing a historically bad job at Memphis. In no way shape or form was he doing a good job. He couldn't keep previous staff talent and he was not recruiting.
His two teams were as bad as any Memphis teams in my lifetime
If tubby is one of the greatest in history I am sure a big time program will hire him
Actually they won't. He will end up at another Minnesota or Texas tech.
There is a reason he was run out of Kentucky and fired from Memphis. He is not a big program coach.
Actually they won't. He will end up at another Minnesota or Texas tech.
There is a reason he was run out of Kentucky and fired from Memphis. He is not a big program coach.
Both of his team's were better than Pastner's last two. Not saying he is K or Self. If the power players in basketball around memphis had not been working against him, he could've done well there.
Penny was have pretty strong powers to block Tubby from recruiting anyone outside of the Memphis area
Rick Ray could have taken that national championship team (see how easy that is) to the Final Four. Problem with Tubby being one of the “great coaches in NCAA history” is that he never made it back.
Tubby has a long history of so-so recruiting so I don’t think you can blame Penny completely. Scott Stricklin once told me that while he loved working for him, Tubby was one of the most disorganized people he had ever been around until the most critical part of a basketball game when he became Cool Hand Luke. He wanted to show up at the games and coach and didn’t really embrace the other aspects of the job.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...mphis-job-if-hed-taken-john-caliparis-advice/
Coaching on the college level D1 no less is a huge step from AAU where depending on sponsors you are given an elite group of players. You can get by with basics without having to teach a lot of X’s and O’s based on your talent. It’s not as easy as walking into a kids home and simply saying Hi I’m Penny please sign here. We’ll find out how good he can recruit and coach
He has won 3 straight state titles at East High School. He is coaching more than just an AAU team
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