Lamar and the NBA

Kojak.sixpack

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Ok, after some of the flashes shown over the past few months and the general feeling that next year is a tourney year with what we have returning, should we be sweating Lamar going pro? I don’t know how the NBA will view his progression...
 

She Mate Me

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Ok, after some of the flashes shown over the past few months and the general feeling that next year is a tourney year with what we have returning, should we be sweating Lamar going pro? I don’t know how the NBA will view his progression...

If Lamar decides to turn pro he'll be listening to some seriously bad advice. The best thing for him is to stay in college and keep maturing and improving. He'll end up slogging around the G league and playing in Croatia if he leaves now.
 

WeWonItAll(Most)

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If Lamar decides to turn pro he'll be listening to some seriously bad advice. The best thing for him is to stay in college and keep maturing and improving. He'll end up slogging around the G league and playing in Croatia if he leaves now.
The eternal pessimist inside me wondered if he kept kicking it out tonight instead of going to the basket because he didn't want to get hurt in a relatively meaningless game before going pro.
 

mstateglfr

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Ok, after some of the flashes shown over the past few months and the general feeling that next year is a tourney year with what we have returning, should we be sweating Lamar going pro? I don’t know how the NBA will view his progression...

It was laughable when talk of him going pro preseason was posted up here.
That was quickly quieted for the first 2/3 of the season since Peters wasnt dominant, mhch less effective, in almost any way.
He has played pretty well over then last 6ish weeks.


If Peters leaves, he will almost certainly be in the gleague or overseas next season. If thats what he wants, cool, but there is no reason he or any of us should think he will be on a NBA roster next season based on his play at MSU thru 2 seasons.
Dude wasnt even a 2nd team conference player.

He shot 38% OVERALL. 28% from deep. He averages only 1.46 assists for every turnover.

I love his energy. I love when he gets goin and breaks ankles.
But there is a ton for him to improve on to even become a long career overseas player, much less long career NBA player.
 

Hump4Hoops

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Ah, the Jamont Gordon plan.

If Lamar decides to turn pro he'll be listening to some seriously bad advice. The best thing for him is to stay in college and keep maturing and improving. He'll end up slogging around the G league and playing in Croatia if he leaves now.
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fishwater99

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We have seen flashes of what a complete PG needs to be, but he needs to put tit all together for a full season to get drafted..
 

johnson86-1

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It was laughable when talk of him going pro preseason was posted up here.
That was quickly quieted for the first 2/3 of the season since Peters wasnt dominant, mhch less effective, in almost any way.
He has played pretty well over then last 6ish weeks.


If Peters leaves, he will almost certainly be in the gleague or overseas next season. If thats what he wants, cool, but there is no reason he or any of us should think he will be on a NBA roster next season based on his play at MSU thru 2 seasons.
Dude wasnt even a 2nd team conference player.

He shot 38% OVERALL. 28% from deep. He averages only 1.46 assists for every turnover.

I love his energy. I love when he gets goin and breaks ankles.
But there is a ton for him to improve on to even become a long career overseas player, much less long career NBA player.

Yea, I think his ball handling and quickness is elite enough to give him a shot at the NBA, but only if he can couple it with being a scoring threat when he drives and also make good decisions. He hasn't shown that yet.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Ok, after some of the flashes shown over the past few months and the general feeling that next year is a tourney year with what we have returning, should we be sweating Lamar going pro? I don’t know how the NBA will view his progression...

I expect Holman to test the waters and participate in the combine (if invited) without hiring an agent. I could see Peters doing the same thing.
 

DAWG61

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I expect Holman to test the waters and participate in the combine (if invited) without hiring an agent. I could see Peters doing the same thing.

I see Penny and Memphis stealing several of Kentucky's players over the next couple years and when the one and done is removed Calipari will start coming back to middle of the SEC.
 

olblue.sixpack

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I see Penny and Memphis stealing several of Kentucky's players over the next couple years and when the one and done is removed Calipari will start coming back to middle of the SEC.

I hope you’re right. I’ve been a Tiger fan since the Larry Finch, Ronnie Robinson and Larry Kenon days. They put that program on the map and I hope that Hardaway can get them back quickly. College basketball is better when Memphis is good.

As for UK coming back to the pack. I know from reading some of your takes you aren’t a big basketball fan, so you probably didn’t notice that is already happening as they were middle of the pack this year. Its the result of the *** kicking Krzyzewski has been giving Calipari the last couple of years on the recruiting trail.
 
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I see Penny and Memphis stealing several of Kentucky's players over the next couple years and when the one and done is removed Calipari will start coming back to middle of the SEC.

I see Penny crashing and burning and thus setting Memphis basketball back 15 years.
 

DAWG61

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I hope you’re right. I’ve been a Tiger fan since the Larry Finch, Ronnie Robinson and Larry Kenon days. They put that program on the map and I hope that Hardaway can get them back quickly. College basketball is better when Memphis is good.

As for UK coming back to the pack. I know from reading some of your takes you aren’t a big basketball fan, so you probably didn’t notice that is already happening as they were middle of the pack this year. Its the result of the *** kicking Krzyzewski has been giving Calipari the last couple of years on the recruiting trail.

Winning the SECT isn't really coming back to the pack.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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I see Penny crashing and burning and thus setting Memphis basketball back 15 years.

It's already been set back 40 years as far as support and money go. Penny will get players, just a question of can he get the right people to coach.

Just as an aside, Jeffries is probably gonna be a Tiger now. Their first recruiting class will be good. Really good.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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Ok, after some of the flashes shown over the past few months and the general feeling that next year is a tourney year with what we have returning, should we be sweating Lamar going pro? I don’t know how the NBA will view his progression...

I doubt Holman will get invited this year. Peters might just because he has such incredible upside. There is nothing NBA GMs like more than upside.
 

engie

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Can Cal really come back to a place he's never been? It's a good thing he didn't win much prior to the one and done phenomenon**
 

engie

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http://www.secsports.com/standings/mens-basketball

Like I said, I know you don’t know much about it, but when UK finishes behind UT and Auburn in the league standings and are within a game or so of Missouri, Mississippi State and A&M that’s definitely coming back to the pack.

Or --- a one year blip on the radar in which he didn't do quite as well in recruiting as he hoped -- and lost everything from the previous team -- culminating in his youngest/least experienced team ever. Let's see where he is by the end of next weekend.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Or --- a one year blip on the radar in which he didn't do quite as well in recruiting as he hoped -- and lost everything from the previous team -- culminating in his youngest/least experienced team ever. Let's see where he is by the end of next weekend.

If he’s where I think he’ll be, he’ll be out of the Final Four for the 3rd straight year. This team is riding a four game winning streak which in IMHO is close to their ceiling, especially against the kind of teams they are playing. Given what they are losing vs what they are bringing in, I’m not sure next year is going to be a whole lot better.

As I said, Krzyzewski has crushed him on the recruiting trail the last couple of years forcing him to take guys he’s not accustomed to taking and its starting to get into his head.
 

patdog

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Not a one year blip. Cals' first 6 years at UK were 4 Final Fours and an Elite 8. Unless he pulls off a miracle the next 10 days, the last 3 years will be 1 Elite 8. He's getting a lot more competition for the elite players and he's missing on more of the ones he does get.
 

Drebin

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I doubt Holman will get invited this year. Peters might just because he has such incredible upside. There is nothing NBA GMs like more than upside.

Holman is an athletic big with a good stroke and three point range. That is a very coveted skill set these days. He will draw some interest. He will have to play through the g league probably, but he could be a Jamychal Green type at the next level.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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Holman is an athletic big with a good stroke and three point range. That is a very coveted skill set these days. He will draw some interest. He will have to play through the g league probably, but he could be a Jamychal Green type at the next level.

Holman has a shot at the NBA, I just don't see him getting a good look until after his senior year.
 

DAWG61

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At the end of the day I think he will be back, but he has had several teams that have expressed at least a passing interest.

Holman went to high school in Kentucky and you're a Kentucky fan living in Kentucky which means you have a better understanding of Holman's NBA future than the entire MSU fanbase.
 
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