OT: CWD deer found in MS

[PBRME]

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...rs-not-good-news-OT&highlight=Chronic+wasting

There was an article on Friday in the CL. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.clarionledger.com/amp/389857002

Looks like it was a local deer after all.

 

[aTotal360]

The immediate blaming of high fence deer reminded me of OM reflexively blaming out-of-staters.

 

[FreeDawg]

Made a lot of sense considering LA hasn’t had a case either. Arkansas has so one would think the first case would have been NW MS. Kind of scary that it’s a MS deer. That stuff could be other places too.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

This proves nothing other than that specific deer is a native buck. I always figured if CWD made it here it would either be via an imported deer that escaped because wild hogs tore up a fence or a deer swim across the Mississippi River from Arkansas. Looks like it must have been an infected arkansas deer that swam the river and spread it

 

[ShrubDog]

Food for thought.

If the first case of CWD in a deer was found inside of an enclosure in 1967, how did the deer contract CWD?

After researching CWD I am not that concerned about it. EHD and blue tongue are more prevalent.

This is crazy to think about. Several years ago Wisconsin killed over 172k deer and only 2k tested positive.




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[msudawg1994]

More important question here, is anyone throwing out their meat they got from anywhere near that area? I’ve heard some people have and some haven’t

 

[dogmatic]

THIS one was a local deer. We shouldn't assume the first one that was found here was the first one that had it here.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

exactly.
Here is some food for thought. It takes 16 months for visible symptoms to appear after the disease is contracted and up to 5 years before they die from it. I'm fairly certain we will see a snowballing effect and there will be more cases of it. I'm not overly concerned about it because I don't hunt much anymore but i have several family members that are avid hunters and they are somewhat concerned. It definitely should be taken seriously and a well thought out plan should be put in place to limit the spread. It is only a matter of time before the deer attack humans and then it spreads among us and then we have a zombie apocalypse on our hands. Next thing you know they'll be legalizing pot like they did in colorado to deal with the fallout.***

 

[Faustdog]

I hope we have an ample supply of deer insulin.

 

[coach66]

I am hearing the first 67 killed all tested negative which is great news if true

They are going to shoot 100 more in the 10 mile zone I believe and test them. All reported road kill will be tested as it is found in the impacted counties. All feeding bans will remain in effect.

I work with a guy who's club is part of ground zero for this thing and his information so far has been pretty solid so hopefully it's true.

 

[engie]

In my limited reading to go along with the fact that there is no stated known cause, I think they are initially contracting it from prions in sewage sludge. And that it’s actually been around(here) for awhile if not since the very start when sludge started being dumped. But isn’t overly prevalent because most of the free range places in Ms with huge deer populations also have huge hog populations, making it virtually impossible to effectively supplemental feed for the deer, and largely slowing the spread of the disease from deer to deer to a large enough extent to put that location under a microscope. But that is just my largely uneducated guess.

Had it been/if it is widespread as feared, the Mississippi is about to present that area with a worst case scenario as far as confining them to small areas together.

 

[coach66]

Is the dumping of sewage sludge a new deal? This is the first I've heard of

this theory but I could see it as plausible if happening. It sounds like something MDEQ would be very interested in if this is happening illegally which I would assume it would have to be.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Sewage sludge can be put out but if it's spread on top of the ground it must be covered within 24 hours. They also use knife rigs to plow it into the ground. I don't know of many people that do it because it's been found not to help hardly at all with soil fertility.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Wonder how this is all affected by the flooding that so often happens in the area the diseased animal was found.

 

[engie]

It's very legal and thusfar not been found to be harmful as far as I know. They thought it was helpful for years. These treatment plants/municipalities dump the heck out of it on their landfill properties. The theory just passes the sniff test for me a little better than some of the other theories on what initially starts the disease.

 

[mcdawg22]

I hope we have an ample supply of deer insulin.

This is not getting the love it deserves.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Mississipi has actually been one of the best states about sampling and testing deer from hunters and roadkill. In fact, the area where the CWD found was one of the more sampled places in the state.

The hope is this was a transient case where a deer from LA crossed over.

The best guess as far as origin is the state which first reported the disease. I believe consensus among the scientists is that it’s not being picked up from anywhere in the environment, but spread through movement and transportation of deer, elk, etc.

 

[engie]

So how did the first ones ever get it? And the hope is that it came from Louisiana -- but it has never actually been found to exist in Louisiana?

I think the more likely case is there is something environmental that causes it -- and without supplemental or confined feeding and overpopulation those animals die without any notable impact on anything. It's possible that another animal contracts it from that one's "footprint" so to speak somewhere down the line and does the same, but there isn't notable spreading until there is a feeding bottleneck. Obviously that has never been proven and may not ever be proven. I know an animal was harvested on family land several years ago that showed a few of the symptoms, which led me to research the cause of the disease, and the first thing that popped up was sewage sludge, which went off like a light bulb for me due to location of the property and how much of that has happened adjacent to it. I might be reading the website equivalent of seeing dead people on this, I dunno... Just seemed to add up...

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Louisiana does a very poor job at testing. The area where the deer was found is heavily sampled before and after with no other positives.

The first case case was in Colorado.

It it may be an environmental disease, but everything has pointed to a patient zero scenario that has spread through contact and travel.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

When I say contact, I’m talking about saliva. Not physical contact.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

internet theory says it evolved from scrapies in mountain goats in colorado and then spread via contact and travel. regardless dumping poop on the ground doesn't seem to be productive for anyone. sposed to bury that according to cub scout manual

 

[coach66]

2nd round of testing all came back negative. These deer were road kill and deer

reported as sick so they expected some positives but got none.