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vandaldawg

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I hate being undefeated. Seriously. And I know the backlash is coming. But I always feel like the weight of being undefeated starts to overtake the real brass ring. Sometimes a slate cleaner is just what the doctor ordered. Did you see Blair’s face at the end? I don’t think that girl is gonna lose another game.
 
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MSUDC11

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Oh yeah there is definitely a silver lining to take from this. We hadn’t played a competitive game in almost a month. We probably needed a reminder that we are mortal. Sometimes it’s not a bad thing to have to taste your own blood.

We’ll still be a 1 seed on the opposite side of the bracket from UConn. There is nobody we will play before the Elite 8 that can beat us. I think we’re still going to make a deep run.
 
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vandaldawg

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MSUDC11 said:
Oh yeah there is definitely a silver lining to take from this. We hadn’t played a competitive game in almost a month. We probably needed a reminder that we are mortal. Sometimes it’s not a bad thing to have to taste your own blood.

We’ll still be a 1 seed on the opposite side of the bracket from UConn. There is nobody we will play before the Elite 8 that can beat us. I think we’re still going to make a deep run.
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That’s kinda my thought. Exactly the right loss at exactly the right time.
 
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the dog is on the loose

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vandaldawg said:
I hate being undefeated. Seriously. And I know the backlash is coming. But I always feel like the weight of being undefeated starts to overtake the real brass ring. Sometimes a slate cleaner is just what the doctor ordered. Did you see Blair’s face at the end? I don’t think that girl is gonna lose another game.
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UConn doesn’t seem to let being undefeated bother them. They just keep winning
 
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MSUDC11

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the dog is on the loose said:
UConn doesn’t seem to let being undefeated bother them. They just keep winning
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Well yeah you would prefer to run the table, but it’s silly to suggest that there aren’t lessons to be learned and positives to be taken from defeat, especially one like this that literally meant nothing for our NCAA seeding.
 
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wtw2400

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the dog is on the loose said:
I most definitely watched the final four and natty. UConn didn’t know what they were getting into when they played us. This time they will be ready for us.
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They didn't play this mediocre game. They played an average game. We're in their head like SC is in ours. We played our worst game of the season today, and it was bad timing.
 
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wrapit

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Yes, losing reminds you that you are not invincible, shows you what to work on,

vandaldawg said:
I hate being undefeated. Seriously. And I know the backlash is coming. But I always feel like the weight of being undefeated starts to overtake the real brass ring. Sometimes a slate cleaner is just what the doctor ordered. Did you see Blair’s face at the end? I don’t think that girl is gonna lose another game.
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and gives the coach more data to crunch on going forward.
 
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CrookedLetta4Eva

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There’s a thread on ED, just got locked. The OP was getting blasted for suggesting that the team needed to lose, he was right.

Lose. Reset. Get back to playing Bulldog basketball for the real prize.
 
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MSUDawgFan86

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Only those with loser mentalities will say it was good to lose to reset. Winners don’t think like that and that reasoning is BS. South Carolina is in this team’s head and it’s killing so much achievement for them. They haven’t shot this poorly all year and it came against South Carolina. Shocker... They let them take all 3 titles last year and the SEC Tourney Title this year. UCONN beat the **** out of this South Carolina team in their gym. It’s gotta be better than this. I’m legitimately surprised over the loss and I thought we were past this. Sigh... we’ll go to final 4 but don’t have a clue what will happen when we get there.
 
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stateu1

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I know what will happen in the final four.

MSUDawgFan86 said:
Only those with loser mentalities will say it was good to lose to reset. Winners don’t think like that and that reasoning is BS. South Carolina is in this team’s head and it’s killing so much achievement for them. They haven’t shot this poorly all year and it came against South Carolina. Shocker... They let them take all 3 titles last year and the SEC Tourney Title this year. UCONN beat the **** out of this South Carolina team in their gym. It’s gotta be better than this. I’m legitimately surprised over the loss and I thought we were past this. Sigh... we’ll go to final 4 but don’t have a clue what will happen when we get there.
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UCONN will beat our ***. Whether we lost today or not this team wasn't going to beat them again. Sorry. If you didn't realize this before today it's not my fault.
 
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bruiser.sixpack

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We start 5'5", 5'7, 5'9"out front and they just aren't built for back to back physical games like yesterday and today. Every starter on our team got knocked around and knocked to the floor several times yesterday. Then had to play again today against another physical and taller team at every position but post. Once Tiera became a spectator, it was over.

The 3 point shooters had jelly legs today and had no spring in their shots.

Last year, we expended all we had in beating UConn. 2 days later, we looked just like we did today.

Vic has 1.5 weeks to get his second unit able to out play his first unit for 3 to 4 minutes at a time. If he can achieve that, we should get to Texas, USCe, or Norte Dame, depending on our side of the draw, in round of 8. If we can get by anyone in that group. Beating any team at the level like Baylor or UConn will be an amazing feat. I suspect we can get to the Final 4. But if it is Baylor, UConn, Louisville, or USCe, winning the semi will be a significant achievement. Remember last year who our "other" post player was? Two headed monster that we could interchange. We don't have that this year.
 
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Go Budaw

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BulldogBlitz said:
...said no champion ever.
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Saying “we needed to lose” and saying “there is something that can be gained from this loss” are totally separate things.

Of course no team, champion or not, ever has the mindset that they need to lose in any situation. That’s just the mentality you have to have as both a player and a coach to be successful. However, that doesn’t mean that it isn’t possible for a loss to be more beneficial than a win for some teams in certain situations. I would argue that we had such a situation today, where we had nothing to prove to the committee or anyone else, and we played like it. In situations where you don’t bring 100% of your A-game in a championship environment, a loss can serve a purpose to wake you up. Whereas if you win, you don’t really gain anything other than a trophy.

Anyone remember us skulldragging a UK team with 3 or 4 NBA players on it in the 96 Men’s SEC tourney final? Who remembers the national champion that year? That team made us look like a JUCO squad at the Hump earlier in the year, and they would have done it again if we had been lucky enough to get by Syracuse. That UK team was in a very similar situation as we were today.
 
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NEW ORLEANS — Mississippi State, parlaying a nothing-to-lose attitude with an excellent showing by Dontae Jones, ended No. 1 Kentucky's searing run through the Southeastern Conference.
Jones had 28 points and 11 rebounds for No. 25 Mississippi State, which ended Kentucky's 27-game winning streak with an 84-73 victory on Sunday in the championship of the SEC tournament.
The loss denied Kentucky (28-2) an SEC tournament title for the first time since 1991, but may have come at a good time for the Wildcats, who have won by an average margin of 24 points this season.

"As great as people make us out to be, we couldn't have made a great run in the [NCAA] tournament unless we lost tonight because things have come too easy," Kentucky Coach Rick Pitino said. "The loss will help us. It shows us we're not invincible."





Pitino always comes to mind when this discussion starts. That's the only one I can think of though.
 
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Junction John

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I just hope too many of the people who didn't vote for us, and even voted Baylor #2 last week, don't push us down farther. I could see them making us the #4 nat'l seed now. They shouldn't. But might they? Hell yes they might.

I can see it now - Final 4 rematch for UConn to get their revenge, then the "matchup everyone wanted" last year in the finals. I feel like I'm being set up.
 
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Shooter McGavin.sixpack

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We didn't let USCe take anything last year. They were a better team than us last year. It would have been nice to win yesterday, and the fact it was them who beat us sucks even more. However, in the grand scheme of things, it meant nothing.

It took pretty much everything going their way to beat us. Freezing cold shooting. T in foul trouble. Random player having a great night.

Yesterday sucked & the team absolutely must play better to reach the final four and beyond ,but all is not lost.
 
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olblue.sixpack

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DawgatAuburn said:
NEW ORLEANS — Mississippi State, parlaying a nothing-to-lose attitude with an excellent showing by Dontae Jones, ended No. 1 Kentucky's searing run through the Southeastern Conference.
Jones had 28 points and 11 rebounds for No. 25 Mississippi State, which ended Kentucky's 27-game winning streak with an 84-73 victory on Sunday in the championship of the SEC tournament.
The loss denied Kentucky (28-2) an SEC tournament title for the first time since 1991, but may have come at a good time for the Wildcats, who have won by an average margin of 24 points this season.

"As great as people make us out to be, we couldn't have made a great run in the [NCAA] tournament unless we lost tonight because things have come too easy," Kentucky Coach Rick Pitino said. "The loss will help us. It shows us we're not invincible."





Pitino always comes to mind when this discussion starts. That's the only one I can think of though.
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Same thing happened to them in 2012. Lost to Vandy in the SEC final in NO and rolled back in there three weeks later and won it all.
 
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MarkDallas

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In 1993 Warren Central went undefeated and lost to South Panola in the championship game. In 1994 they lost to Clinton in the regular season and went on to beat Provine for the 5A championship. Just sayin.
 
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dogfan96

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That's the difference in us and the other elites.. size and length. All of SCU's girls were around 6' (or taller) and pretty athletic.. Vic has addressed that in recruiting though.. two 6'5 post players and a 6'1 wing player.. and the UConn transfer is a 5'11 guard. Crazy to think in 2 years our starting lineup will probably consist of four 5-star players and one 4-star player.. and they'll just be sophomores. We should challenge for the national title in 2021 and 2022 if they develop as expected.
 
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Shamoan

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Who known what will happen, but I can honestly say that I feel the team is better prepared for a deep run than they were prior to the loss. That said, if we meet USCe again, I feel like we will lose, but in my case, negativity serves as motivation
 
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