LeBron says NCAA is corrupt

Crucifictorious

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-calls-ncaa-corrupt-says-nba-give-alternative

He also says that he has a couple of kids who are on their way to making a tough decision: NCAA or playing overseas.

My question, are his kids really that good? We saw Shaq's son decommitted from Arizona yesterday. Will NBA players start steering their kids the LaVar Ball route?

He also said "Have you seen Blue Chips? Blue Chips is real"

 
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Msubulldogfan1

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NCAA and college sports are definitely corrupt, he’s not wrong. But the players are part of it, like it or not. Not blaming them for taking 100 grand, but by taking it, that become part of it.
 

catvet

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He got a high school degree. And every time he opens his mouth it shows. Total moron
 

Hankp22

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Your point?

He got a high school degree. And every time he opens his mouth it shows. Total moron

How many years were you recruited as an elite athlete? Or how many years have you been in the basketball industry at an elite level? Suggesting an individual needs an education to formulate a valid opinion on certain set of criteria can show stupidity.

Lebron is correct on this particular subject .
 
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What people never seem to mention

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-calls-ncaa-corrupt-says-nba-give-alternative

He also says that he has a couple of kids who are on their way to making a tough decision: NCAA or playing overseas.

My question, are his kids really that good? We saw Shaq's son decommitted from Arizona yesterday. Will NBA players start steering their kids the LaVar Ball route?

He also said "Have you seen Blue Chips? Blue Chips is real"


In the college athletes should be paid argument is that minor league sports are basically ignored. I watch MSU sports because I went to MSU. I’ve never seen the Chattanooga Lookouts or the Montgomery Biscuits play a single inning. The NCAA institutions have enormous, loyal fan bases that playing overseas or in a minor league won’t provide. I say let them go get paid in Latvia. If you want to play in front small crowds and live in a place where you don’t speak the language, go for it. If not, then accept the scholarship and all the benefits and responsibilities that come with it.
 

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LeBron. Great individual player. Great brand. Millionaire.

Not a leader. At all. But dude can ball.
 

mstateglfr

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NCAA and college sports are definitely corrupt, he’s not wrong. But the players are part of it, like it or not. Not blaming them for taking 100 grand, but by taking it, that become part of it.

But players often arent the ones taking money.
Greedy parent.
Greedy AAU hanger-on.
Greedy uncle.

Etc
 

mstateglfr

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He got a high school degree. And every time he opens his mouth it shows. Total moron

Interesting. Peers and those who actually know him continually discuss his intellect, but in sure you know better.
 

mstateglfr

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He also says that he has a couple of kids who are on their way to making a tough decision: NCAA or playing overseas.

Once the Gleague pays more than $20k max for most players, more HS grads will take that route.
They will play more games than college against better competition than college and have just as much or more visibility to NBA front offices than college.
 
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Once the Gleague pays more than $20k max for most players, more HS grads will take that route.
They will play more games than college against better competition than college and have just as much or more visibility to NBA front offices than college.
Did you forget these **?

Minor leagues can’t pay much because no one goes to see them play. Name 5 G league teams off the top of your head. Tell me who won the M-Braves division last year?
 

mstateglfr

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Did you forget these **?

Minor leagues can’t pay much because no one goes to see them play. Name 5 G league teams off the top of your head. Tell me who won the M-Braves division last year?

There are 375ish players in the G league. Ignoring 2 way playwrs and those on nba rosters, that is about 300ish players(to use an easy number).
Upping salary from $20k/26k(depending) to $50k would mean about $8million more in salary.

Looking at the salaries in the NBA, especially the jump pver the last 3 years, $8mm is a drop in the bucket.

About 20% of the dleague made more than $46k last year due to callups and NBA contracts, for disclosure here.


Offering a 5* player who doesnt have interest in college the chance to make $50k, play more games, have access to NBA execs, and the ability to play stateside for 1 year should be an enticing alternative to the NCAA and overseas.
They could then enter the draft and be stashed back in the Gleague for another year or two if needed while earning a rookie level contract.



As for naming teams...i live in a town with a team and watch games so your point wouldnt be made with me answering.
 

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He just needs to stay in his lane and shut the 17 up. He should probably worry about being ***** slapped by the warriors again. He runs his mouth too much.
 

CochiseCowbell

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But players often arent the ones taking money.
Greedy parent.
Greedy AAU hanger-on.
Greedy uncle.

Etc

It's rare, but every so often you post something I agree with. If AAU ball was just travel ball to play more games against better competition for development it'd be fine. But it's tied so closely with the shoe brands & pimps not coaches, that it's lost its positives.
 

TheStateUofMS

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He got a high school degree. And every time he opens his mouth it shows. Total moron

Hmmm...seems you're pretty ignorant on LeBron's intellect. He's an attention ***** for sure, but he's not a dumbass. Warren Buffet agrees with me.
 

aTotal360

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Lebron's right, but I don't get the "he's a genius" talk from all the media. He's ultra talented and ultra exploitative. He's also annoyingly passive aggressive on social media. He reminds me of HF quite frankly. The way he hold teams hostage during trade trade deal lines is ******. I fully understand he has the power to do so, but IMO it's very selfish. I used to be a big fan, but now his shtick is growing old.
 

Crucifictorious

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I just wonder if it will take the NBA getting rid of the one and done rule (which Stan Van Gundy agrees with LeBron about) to change things in college basketball, or if the NCAA tournament, CBS, ESPN and all of the schools are just in too deep for anything to change.
 

thekimmer

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He is right and revenue sports will always be corrupt as long as 2 things exist.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-calls-ncaa-corrupt-says-nba-give-alternative

He also says that he has a couple of kids who are on their way to making a tough decision: NCAA or playing overseas.

My question, are his kids really that good? We saw Shaq's son decommitted from Arizona yesterday. Will NBA players start steering their kids the LaVar Ball route?

He also said "Have you seen Blue Chips? Blue Chips is real"

1) Prospects have a choice to go anywhere they want.

2) There is big money at stake based on #1.

I am not advocating a draft for college athletes. I am just stating fact. Even if the NCAA approved stipends for athletes there would still be under the table money given to get an edge because of #1 and #2 above.

Its because some college sports have evolved into something they were never really intended to be and that is mainstream entertainment and revenue generators akin to pro sports. That's not really a good or bad thing its just what it is. That is why I agree with James that I don't really see what can be done about it. All you can do is drive the payments further underground but you will never stop it at least not without killing its popularity because that is what drives it.
 
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TXDawg.sixpack

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Here's my problem with LeBron (or any NBA player) calling the NCAA dirty and saying it's a broken system: They're part of the problem! If they would quit calling and visiting high school and college players on behalf of their agents, a lot of this crap would get cleaned up quickly.
 
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Interesting. Peers and those who actually know him continually discuss his intellect, but in sure you know better.

Warren Buffett is a fan:

In an interview with NBA TV, Buffett described LeBron as "remarkably mature," being "plenty smart about financial matters," and saying "I was impressed with him right from the moment I met him." As far as LeBron's business sense, Buffett continued pouring on the accolades. He said, "LeBron's not really talkative, he's savvy," continuing with, "he talked smarter about business deals than plenty of MBAs I've met … when I talked with him first, he was 21 then… He knew a lot more than I did when I was 21."
 

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Comparing Lebron and Lavarr is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve read on this board lately. Him recently being critical of a certain someone has some folks upset.
 

FreeDawg

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LeBron. Great individual player. Great brand. Millionaire.

Not a leader. At all. But dude can ball.

Youre calling the best passer in the history of basketball a great individual player? You realize dude lives in the finals? Dude has 3 rings, has been to the finals every year since 2010 season, and had 1 finals trip before that. So what your definition of a leader and name who they are. Because if Lebron isn’t one, your pool is basically MJ, Kobe, Bill Russell...
 

mstateglfr

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Bait taken. Yes. He plays in it every night. Oh except the nights he has to sit out to "rest up".

Details please.

Are you saying he is corrupt when he plays?
Are you saying NBA games are corrupt?
Are you saying the entire NBA is corrupt?

Specifics so we can better understand your dumbassedry.
 

HD6

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He believes the NBA is fixed. Please don't go down this road with him.
 

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Lebron's right, but I don't get the "he's a genius" talk from all the media. He's ultra talented and ultra exploitative. He's also annoyingly passive aggressive on social media. He reminds me of HF quite frankly. The way he hold teams hostage during trade trade deal lines is ******. I fully understand he has the power to do so, but IMO it's very selfish. I used to be a big fan, but now his shtick is growing old.
How can Durant be this super smart Silicon Valley tech investor if he went to college for 1 year but LeBron can't be brilliant because he didn't go to college for 1 year? LeBron's portfolio outside of basketball is as impressive if not 100000x more. I think it's impossible to be as good at any sport as LeBron is at basketball without being highly intelligent. Business endeavors aside.

If my son was a bluechip recruit who has even a 50/50 shot at being a one-and-done, I'm advising him to sign with the G-league. No question. 2nd best basketball league in the world, the coaches are leagues and bounds ahead of their NCAA counterparts, and I don't have to put up with all the bureaucracy of college athletics. Get in, get my kid a low six-figure shoe deal, and if he's as good as advertised, he gets drafted in the first and shows up to Las Vegas for Summer League already used to scrapping against 28 year old NBA journeymen. All his expenses are paid, he gets $100+ per diem to buy himself food on the road... I don't understand how MORE kids don't sign with the G-league out of high school, honestly. Not like these one-and-dones' 12 hours of classes they accumulate before leaving make a huge difference in time when they eventually decide to finish their degree.

EDIT: I'm also of the belief that a kid should normally always sign the high school MLB tender, too. But that's a different story. At least bball players don't have to pay their way.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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dumbassedry

ha....ye of little knowledge.

I am talking mainly about the playoffs.

But I do think the "story" is created before the season starts. You can not believe me all you want, but there are many who know that this is going on. I can't help it many are blind to it. Did you grow up thinking WWF was real too?
 
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aTotal360

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Lebron's portfolio is predicated on his ability to be the greatest basketball player in the world. Investing in Coke, Nike, Samsung, Beats, McDonald's and Microsoft are no brainers when your basketball notoriety is obviously going to net you a pile of money. Investing in brands that are paying you to endorse then isn't a hard decision when you are the king of a sport.

What I will give Lebron credit for is hiring good investors to do the job for him.

To be clear, I'm not calling him dumb. I just think it's ridiculous how everyone in the media has been calling him a genius and making him out to be a mensa member.
 

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Best passer in NBA history? Ahem...

In no order,...
Magic
John Stockton
Oscar Robertson
Isiah Thomas
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash
Jason Williams
Pete Maravich
Larry Byrd
 
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I really really really do not like Lebron James. However, he is a smart dude. There are plenty of smart and successful people in the world that do not finish college or have an advanced degree including some Billionaires. Is he a genius? no. Neither is warren buffet. Stephen Hawkings is a genius. I kinda think he is an alien too but that's a different story for a different day. I do not agree with him on this. If kids wanna skip out on college and go join the g-league more power to them. Go for it. There is a point where the amount of money that can be made upfront is greater than a college degree can provide. The one and done rule should be eliminated and draft dates and structure should be examined and possibly altered. The NBA and the NCAA should work together to help create an environment that is the most beneficial to the players and their respective futures and for the love of the game.
 

mstateglfr

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ha....ye of little knowledge.

I am talking mainly about the playoffs.

But I do think the "story" is created before the season starts. You can not believe me all you want, but there are many who know that this is going on. I can't help it many are blind to it. Did you grow up thinking WWF was real too?

So the regular season isnt fixed, but the playoffs are? And this is in spite of the regular season setting the stage for the playoffs in terms of who makes it, seeding, home court, etc.

Yup- dumbassedry.

Serious question- who all is on the inside of this scam?
NBA corporate?...sure they have to be.
Owners and team front offices?....sure they have to be.
Refs?...sure thdy have to be.
Players?...sure they have to be.

So somehow this secret has stayed within the NBA even though thousands upon thousands of people have been privy to it for decades now?

Nope- thats where you lose me- the idea that such a scam could be kept secret in this day and age.
 
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