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Cohen spoke to the Tupelo Kiwanis Club on Friday. From the article in the Daily Journal

[FONT=&]One coaching search Cohen is trying his best to avoid is for women’s basketball. Vic Schaefer received a substantial raise following last year’s run to the national finals and Cohen wants to extend that further following this season.
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[FONT=&]“What we have put in front of him is one of the most elite contracts in all of women’s college basketball,” Cohen said. “If Vic Schaefer ever leaves Mississippi State, I can assure you it will not be because of money.”

http://www.djournal.com/sports/msu-...cle_d943f73e-7e05-59bd-bd9f-37fe81526b0e.html

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dawgstudent

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It's right at a $1 million right now if I remember correctly.

Cohen did say it was a top 10 salary when they did his contract.
 
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HueFreeze

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if he beats uconn this year and pulls 39-0 he needs top pay for 4 years...


35-1 at the hump is spectacular!
 

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It's right at a $1 million right now if I remember correctly.

Cohen did say it was a top 10 salary when they did his contract.

Gino is right at $2M. Really no reason we can't match that. He's given the University more positive publicity since he's been here than anyone in sports that I can think of. One reason he gives the school such a positive image is that he's seems to be a very nice guy (unlike folks like Mullen, Saban ....) and doesn't yell profanities from the sidelines like a certain other SEC women's coach does.
 

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if he beats uconn this year and pulls 39-0 he needs top pay for 4 years...


35-1 at the hump is spectacular!

I think he needs top pay even if he doesn't go 39-0. He has a much tougher row to hoe than Gino (because of conference play). If both teams get there, it will be a game for the ages. They'll be nervous too ... after all, we beat them last year.
 

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Whoops ... athletic coach, I should have said. Yeah, Dak surpasses anything else.
 
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Any idea If WBK is a “revenue producing” sport? Not that it matters since we’ll never be able to put a dollar figure on the greatest upset in any sport
 

She Mate Me

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Any idea If WBK is a “revenue producing” sport? Not that it matters since we’ll never be able to put a dollar figure on the greatest upset in any sport

It never has been at State or the vast majority of schools. Richard Cross asked Cohen if it was in the black a few weeks ago on Head to Head and he sort of avoided saying no, while praising the program.
 

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Any idea If WBK is a “revenue producing” sport? Not that it matters since we’ll never be able to put a dollar figure on the greatest upset in any sport

According to this article from 2012 using figures from schools with top 20 attendance. They all lost money on women's basketball. Every team on the list lost from $ 900,000 - 3.2 million. UConn lost 1.3 million

Average revenue: $1,475,197
Average expenses: $3,280,275
Average net revenue: -$2,329,623


https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations

MSU Baseball isn't a revenue producing sport

 
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BulldogBlitz

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That is possibly problematic all the way around. What in the world were we expensing in baseball 2012 that we were not in the black? Or is it as simple as we have a lot of "fans" but no "fan support"
 

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How do we put a value on the number of students we get that come here because of the women's basketball team?
 
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Both of Vic’s kids (Blair and Twin brother) are set to go to grad school at TAM next year.

Our administration fully realizes that when Blair retires at TAM, that will be a big, big problem.
 

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Both of Vic’s kids (Blair and Twin brother) are set to go to grad school at TAM next year.

Our administration fully realizes that when Blair retires at TAM, that will be a big, big problem.

Blair is gonna retire after this year
 

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MSU Baseball isn't a revenue producing sport[/QUOT


The problem is revenue not expenses.

We have had so many folks on the "very little or no seat fee" plan we were losing revenue compare to other schools.

For example UM seat fees -- not tickets -- range from a high of $2000 down to $125.

Say 4500 chair backs at an extra only 300 per seat brings us into the black.
 
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According to this article from 2012 using figures from schools with top 20 attendance. They all lost money on women's basketball. Every team on the list lost from $ 900,000 - 3.2 million. UConn lost 1.3 million

Average revenue: $1,475,197
Average expenses: $3,280,275
Average net revenue: -$2,329,623


https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations

MSU Baseball isn't a revenue producing sport


TV money has to be the difference- maybe secn will help even out
 

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If he does, Vic is gone. Book it. Sorry, and I am as positive of anybody.

Ok. Then hire Mathew Mitchell. He's been to 8 NCAA Tournaments, 3 Elite Eights, 5 Sweet Sixteens, 1 SEC Championship at Kentucky.

Kentucky only had 6 NCAA Appearances before he got there.

And Mitchell is our own Mississippi State alum and Louisville Mississippi native. If Schafer hears momma calling like you claim, let's call one of our own as well.
 
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According to this article from 2012 using figures from schools with top 20 attendance. They all lost money on women's basketball. Every team on the list lost from $ 900,000 - 3.2 million. UConn lost 1.3 million

Average revenue: $1,475,197
Average expenses: $3,280,275
Average net revenue: -$2,329,623


https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations

MSU Baseball isn't a revenue producing sport


MSU baseball isn’t in the black because of the old stadium, and its one of the major reasons why we had to do what we did. Show me these numbers again the year after the new park is 100% done.
 

She Mate Me

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Ok. Then hire Mathew Mitchell. He's been to 8 NCAA Tournaments, 3 Elite Eights, 5 Sweet Sixteens, 1 SEC Championship at Kentucky.

Kentucky only had 6 NCAA Appearances before he got there.

And Mitchell is our own Mississippi State alum and Louisville Mississippi native. If Schafer hears momma calling like you claim, let's call one of our own as well.

He has had lots of issues with defections of coaches and players recently. He definitely wins though (at least before this year).
 

HueFreeze

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I don't see how you can give him more than Gino if we go 38-1, I guess my top pay comment could be confused. I meant it as he should be 250k more than Gino for the next four years (go ahead and put the SEC effect on wbk) show the game we are here to support him and his administration, if we go 39-0.

I have no doubt he will get a bump just going 38-1 or whatever from here on out. The fans have done their part and showed. It is time for the administration to layout a plan to renovate the hump and I really hope the ticketing issue will be handled next year.
 

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According to this article from 2012 using figures from schools with top 20 attendance. They all lost money on women's basketball. Every team on the list lost from $ 900,000 - 3.2 million. UConn lost 1.3 million

Average revenue: $1,475,197
Average expenses: $3,280,275
Average net revenue: -$2,329,623


https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations

MSU Baseball isn't a revenue producing sport


That has to be done without allocating any SEC Network revenues to women's basketball or baseball. Not sure how that would break down. I'm guessing something like 85% would be football and men's basketball, then maybe 5% for women's basketball, then something smaller for baseball and then the rest spread out along all the other televised sports. But you could probably get pretty close just by taking the total views of all the sports programming and then just allocating the revenue to each sport on a percentage basis. That would undercount the football and men's basketball revenue, but it'd be a decent approximation.

For MSU, women's basketball is valuable because of the national exposure and men's baseball is valuable because it actually drives some attendance and creates some hard core MSU fans, even if it's a relatively small number.
 

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MSU baseball isn’t in the black because of the old stadium, and its one of the major reasons why we had to do what we did. Show me these numbers again the year after the new park is 100% done.

Yep, LT screwed over baseball for years with his lifetime seating. Got the job done at the time to build the stadium we just go rid of but it was VERY shortsighted.
 

wtw2400

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I am aware. I just think he's a great choice personally after going to Lexington Sunday. I really don't think we should be talking about Vic's future rn. But I am just laying out a name to show there is always Plan B.
 

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Both of Vic’s kids (Blair and Twin brother) are set to go to grad school at TAM next year.

Our administration fully realizes that when Blair retires at TAM, that will be a big, big problem.
I think the writing is on the wall. Better hope we win the natty this year
 

BulldogBlitz

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Yep, LT screwed over baseball for years with his lifetime seating. Got the job done at the time to build the stadium we just go rid of but it was VERY shortsighted.

Do you want all tix to be GA? In 30 years (freshman year forward) I've been to two state baseball games, so I have zero idea of the seating arrangements.
 
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