Next year's ladies team

Oldman.sixpack

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Yes, I know it's way too early, but I'm just wondering where the scoring is going to come from next year. McGowan will get her points and Bibby will get hers. After that, I don't know. Dansburry can score some. I sure hope some of these freshman that have been sitting on the bench will pan out. (Taylor,Tate,Scott)I don't know a lot about the new freshman coming in. Hoping we get somebody who can contribute from the start.
I do think we will make the tournament, but it's going to be a totally different team. Already looking forward to next season and what Vic can do with them.
 

missouridawg

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Holmes, Danberry, and the 5 star redshirt are going to have to carry a load. I expect Bibby to take quite a jump too.

Danberry was a 5 star out of high school I believe.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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Myah Taylor is a taller version of Morgan William...Vic said Taylor is best PG in country Now... I expect Nyah Tate to get a lot more playing time next year... she has shown to be a good 3 pt shooter at times... Daphane White is the Wildcard... really don't know what to expect.. I still think we will be in Top 3rd of SEC next year but we won't be bombing 3 pt shots like this year... I expect our style of play to be more like Auburn's last nite... full court press, helter skelter...
 

blacklistedbully

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We've got some incredible talent coming in. Bibby is already capable of scoring a lot more than she has. She will get more shots next year. We will have enough upperclassmen returning to provide leadership.

Jazz is going to be scary good. She already is now, so watch her next year!

With Vic and staff in charge, our defense will be superb. Any time you have that, you have a chance to be one of the top teams.
 

maroonmania

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Holmes, Danberry, and the 5 star redshirt are going to have to carry a load. I expect Bibby to take quite a jump too.

Danberry was a 5 star out of high school I believe.

Bibby comes across to me as more of a defender and rebounder than a scorer. To be honest, we don't really have a true scorer playing now that will be starting next year. We will actually need several new and current bench players to step their scoring up substantially to be a Top 25 team next year.
 

HueFreeze

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back to a defensive squad ...Vic's true style

McCowan
Bibby
Danberry/Holmes cutting backdoors

Iggy should be really good, iffy coming back from injury

Hopefully Taylor, Tate, and Scott make strides

Right now it is hard to see bibby and danberry leading, because of them coming off bench. I think they will get comfortable after non-conf
 

WrapItDog

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Daphane White is the Wildcard... really don't know what to expect..


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BiscuitEater

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Yes, I know it's way too early, but I'm just wondering where the scoring is going to come from next year.

Sorry, I had to laugh when I saw this. I remember the 'hand-wringing' posts when it was announced that Ameshya Williams had left the team. We had already lost most of our 'inside' game due to graduation .. Williams .. Richardson, Chapel, Okorie + Dillingham. We have survived, are #2 and have a 29 game win streak.

Yes, we lose a lot BUT Vic can coach. Players 'improve' playing for him (Blair didn't start a meaningful game until the ~ end of her Junior year). Look how much McCowan has improved from her FR year.

Myah Taylor, 5*, will be ready, players will step up .. 3 top-100 players are set to join .. Daphane White, 6'5 C, #48 nationally, #7 C .. Xaria Wiggins, 6'1 G, 4-star, #54 nationally, #8 SF .. Jessika Carter, 6'3 F, 5-star, #49 nationally.

We will be good! Vic has a plan.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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Sep 15, 2009
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Danberry was a 5 star out of high school I believe.
She is quick but I don't see the 5* status with her at all. I think one of our freshman coming in will contribute alot. Xaria Wiggins is really good and the two bigs we have coming in are good. We won't be 30-0 good but I bet we will be around 24-6 good.
 

BiscuitEater

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Right now it is hard to see bibby and danberry leading, because of them coming off bench. I think they will get comfortable after non-conf

Hmmm .. Blair Schaefer 'came off the bench' in the first 92 MSU games she played .. before she started the last four games in the NCAAT at the END of her Junior year.

Do you consider her a team 'leader' this year?
 

tired

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Bibby's able to create her own shot, and will only get better.
 

ababyatemydingo

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Yes, I know it's way too early, but I'm just wondering where the scoring is going to come from next year. McGowan will get her points and Bibby will get hers. After that, I don't know. Dansburry can score some. I sure hope some of these freshman that have been sitting on the bench will pan out. (Taylor,Tate,Scott)I don't know a lot about the new freshman coming in. Hoping we get somebody who can contribute from the start.
I do think we will make the tournament, but it's going to be a totally different team. Already looking forward to next season and what Vic can do with them.


I know for a fact that we won't miss a beat at point guard. and may even be better at that position next year. Mya Taylor is better than the ones getting playing time this year. year after next, not counting next years signing class, we will have six 5*'s in the rotation, that are sophomores or higher. and that's not even counting Bibby, who wasn't ranked.
 

maroonmania

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Feb 23, 2008
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Bibby's able to create her own shot, and will only get better.

Of all the players that are currently contributors on this team, Bibby and Danberry have the worst FG%s at 37.7 and 36.8 respectively. So for next year, I'm not just worried about them creating a shot, but actually making it when they do.
 

FlotownDawg

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I really haven’t been that impressed by Bibby other than the SC game when she played well. A lot of people here like her a lot, and I have a feeling it’s not for her basketball playing ability. I hope I’m wrong and she turns out to be a stud, but I don’t see her as more than a role player. Of course Blair was a role player her whole career until this year when she broke out and became a star so it could happen with Bibby too.
 

She Mate Me

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Dec 7, 2008
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I know for a fact that we won't miss a beat at point guard. and may even be better at that position next year. Mya Taylor is better than the ones getting playing time this year. year after next, not counting next years signing class, we will have six 5*'s in the rotation, that are sophomores or higher. and that's not even counting Bibby, who wasn't ranked.

No offense, but what support do you have for this statement? She will likely be great, but she's redshirting because she was not better than the current options, not because she was the best of the 3.

To say a redshirted freshman PG is better than the other two options who have their team at 29-0 and are among the national leaders in Assist/TO ratio is borderline offensive to our current PGs
 
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patdog

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I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised next year. She's adjusting to the pace and physicality of the US college game much quicker than I thought she would.
 

She Mate Me

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Yes, I know it's way too early, but I'm just wondering where the scoring is going to come from next year. McGowan will get her points and Bibby will get hers. After that, I don't know. Dansburry can score some. I sure hope some of these freshman that have been sitting on the bench will pan out. (Taylor,Tate,Scott)I don't know a lot about the new freshman coming in. Hoping we get somebody who can contribute from the start.
I do think we will make the tournament, but it's going to be a totally different team. Already looking forward to next season and what Vic can do with them.

We're going to be fine. We have a lot of talent. No, there's not another VV over there, but we can win lots of games playing with a somewhat limited offensive group if we have to. I think they will develop into a solid all around team. Top 25 for sure and Sweet 16 contender. Iggy Allen getting healthy will be a big boost if her rehab goes well. Vic was speaking highly of her before the injury. She was a player SC wanted too.
 

She Mate Me

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She is quick but I don't see the 5* status with her at all. I think one of our freshman coming in will contribute alot. Xaria Wiggins is really good and the two bigs we have coming in are good. We won't be 30-0 good but I bet we will be around 24-6 good.

To me everything about Danberry is 5 star except her shooting. Hopefully that will improve, but she's Vic's kind of player.

She was the Arkansas Gatorade POY and ranked 43rd. A bit higher than any of this years recruits, who should also be great.
 
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The Peeper

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Feb 26, 2008
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I like Chloe's potential. She's playing very reserved right now which I would expect from a freshman. I think she needs playing time and confidence which should come in early season non conference games, hope she's ready when conference play Ross
 

WilCoDawg

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Sep 6, 2012
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Yeah. And if you look at the difference in play in T from previous years to this year it is night and day, and I’m optimistic that others can make the leap in their game as well. I’m not sold we’ll be where we are now come next year, but we’ll be extremely competitive.
 
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No offense, but what support do you have for this statement? She will likely be great, but she's redshirting because she was not better than the current options, not because she was the best of the 3.

To say a redshirted freshman PG is better than the other two options who have their team at 29-0 and are among the national leaders in Assist/TO ratio is borderline offensive to our current PGs

She’s redshirted because we’re starting four guards and the first two off the bench are guards. We’re fortunate she agreed to be a team player and not insist on being a five star brat. She would be getting significant playing time and points if she were not that team player.
 

dickiedawg

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Feb 22, 2008
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Sorry, I had to laugh when I saw this. I remember the 'hand-wringing' posts when it was announced that Ameshya Williams had left the team. We had already lost most of our 'inside' game due to graduation .. Williams .. Richardson, Chapel, Okorie + Dillingham. We have survived, are #2 and have a 29 game win streak.


We will be good! Vic has a plan.

This is a great point. It seems like an eternity ago when the news broke about her. I was very concerned about out depth in the post. As you pointed out, we have survived to say the least.

Do we know if Ameshya stands to return next year?
 
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Sorry, I had to laugh when I saw this. I remember the 'hand-wringing' posts when it was announced that Ameshya Williams had left the team. We had already lost most of our 'inside' game due to graduation .. Williams .. Richardson, Chapel, Okorie + Dillingham. We have survived, are #2 and have a 29 game win streak.

Yes, we lose a lot BUT Vic can coach. Players 'improve' playing for him (Blair didn't start a meaningful game until the ~ end of her Junior year). Look how much McCowan has improved from her FR year.

Myah Taylor, 5*, will be ready, players will step up .. 3 top-100 players are set to join .. Daphane White, 6'5 C, #48 nationally, #7 C .. Xaria Wiggins, 6'1 G, 4-star, #54 nationally, #8 SF .. Jessika Carter, 6'3 F, 5-star, #49 nationally.

We will be good! Vic has a plan.

A bunch of these folks evidently only recently started watching the girls team. These girls that are killing it this year went through the same pains you see Bibby, Danberry and the rest have on the court now.

As long as Vic keeps getting the talent we will be very, very good. He and his staff KNOW how to coach and develop players. Anyone who has followed them closely since he came to town has seen this.

Relax and just hope his feelings about MSU override those of aTm when the time comes.
 

HueFreeze

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Aug 22, 2012
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i mean leading in scoring ...they both seem (like bibby's shot ...danberry can get a step on anyone) like they can be scoring options but it seems like to me they are in for short stretches and they don't have the confidence i think they will have when playing a lot next year. sorry
 

ababyatemydingo

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Nov 27, 2008
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No offense, but what support do you have for this statement? She will likely be great, but she's redshirting because she was not better than the current options, not because she was the best of the 3.

To say a redshirted freshman PG is better than the other two options who have their team at 29-0 and are among the national leaders in Assist/TO ratio is borderline offensive to our current PGs


Discussion with her head coach at the university she now attends.
 

She Mate Me

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Not going down this road. Good for you, glad y'all are that close. I stand corrected.
 

She Mate Me

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She’s redshirted because we’re starting four guards and the first two off the bench are guards. We’re fortunate she agreed to be a team player and not insist on being a five star brat. She would be getting significant playing time and points if she were not that team player.

I'm clear on why she's redshirting, how good she was in HS, how loaded this year's team is at guard and how selfless and smart she is to be redshirting. I've even commented on it and praised her for it before.

I'm not clear on why some here think a top notch coach would ask a great player to consider redshirting if he didn't have better, more experienced options for this season in front of her. Why would she be getting significant minutes on a team that has accomplished near complete dominance of all opponents this season without her? At whose expense would those minutes come?

Not buying in.
 

She Mate Me

Heisman
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Of all the players that are currently contributors on this team, Bibby and Danberry have the worst FG%s at 37.7 and 36.8 respectively. So for next year, I'm not just worried about them creating a shot, but actually making it when they do.

I sure hope they shoot better down the road, but it's worth noting that Vivians career numbers coming into her senior year were 37% FG and 30% from 3, and she has been our go to from the moment she walked on campus. If we can play Vic kinda D we will find the players to put up enough points to win.
 

gasdawg

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I'm clear on why she's redshirting, how good she was in HS, how loaded this year's team is at guard and how selfless and smart she is to be redshirting. I've even commented on it and praised her for it before.

I'm not clear on why some here think a top notch coach would ask a great player to consider redshirting if he didn't have better, more experienced options for this season in front of her. Why would she be getting significant minutes on a team that has accomplished near complete dominance of all opponents this season without her? At whose expense would those minutes come?

Not buying in.

Myah Taylor is the most talented PG on our current roster. This is from a family member of another current player. We were very fortunate to have the luxury to RS her. She wasn't thrilled at the idea at first but I think she realizes it was the best thing for the team in the long run.

Gotta find a way to have Myah, Holmes, Bibby and T on the court at the same time.
 

RocketDawg

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Maybe it's just me, but Holmes seems to be faster and a better ball handler than Danberry is. She's not the best shooter in the world, but that should come with playing time and experience.
 

RocketDawg

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I watched a few nights ago when Baylor played Texas. They said Baylor had the No. 1 incoming class for next year. How does our team rank? Are we doing more with less?
 

RocketDawg

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I really haven’t been that impressed by Bibby other than the SC game when she played well. A lot of people here like her a lot, and I have a feeling it’s not for her basketball playing ability. I hope I’m wrong and she turns out to be a stud, but I don’t see her as more than a role player. Of course Blair was a role player her whole career until this year when she broke out and became a star so it could happen with Bibby too.

That's probably true to a certain extent and nothing wrong with it. She's a very attractive ginger. But she'll be a really good player before she graduates, and probably well before then.
 

L4Dawg

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There will invetably be a drop off next year, but as long as Vic is here, this program will compete. Keeping him is the key. Do it and he will maintain a VERY solid program. One that will be elite at times.
 
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patdog

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On the other hand, Blair Schaefer's 3-point % has gone from 29.7% to 34.3% to 37.8% to 41.4% over her career.
 

blacklistedbully

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Both are very fast. I think Holmes is a little faster, but Danberry has more moves. Also think Holmes is a little more willing to dish, whereas Dansberry seems more likely to shoot herself.

Both are very active on defense, and both look like they can run all night.
 

She Mate Me

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Myah Taylor is the most talented PG on our current roster. This is from a family member of another current player. We were very fortunate to have the luxury to RS her. She wasn't thrilled at the idea at first but I think she realizes it was the best thing for the team in the long run.

Gotta find a way to have Myah, Holmes, Bibby and T on the court at the same time.

I agree that she probably is the most talented PG on the team and with a redshirt year behind two great PGs and a freshman year to split time with Jazz, I could easily see her being an All American down the road. It was definitely a luxury to be able to redshirt her this year and smart and selfless of her to allow it.
 

She Mate Me

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I really haven’t been that impressed by Bibby other than the SC game when she played well. A lot of people here like her a lot, and I have a feeling it’s not for her basketball playing ability. I hope I’m wrong and she turns out to be a stud, but I don’t see her as more than a role player. Of course Blair was a role player her whole career until this year when she broke out and became a star so it could happen with Bibby too.

Bibby is the only freshman seeing significant minutes on the veteran, undefeated, undisputed #2 team in the country (who is only #2 because they are unfortunate enough to be playing at the same time as one of the best programs in sports history). She is going to be a big time star. I promise you'll be happy.
 
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