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West Tn Dawg

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It's BS! Redemption is between you and the Lord.
You don't get paid to get redemption!
He's still a snake!
 
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Faustdog

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As someone who attends Pinelake, it makes me sick that our pastor is a part of it. I think Chip enjoys being pals with a local celebrity like Freeze a little much and allows that to cloud his judgment.
 
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Crazy Cotton

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That's a grifters convention right there. They figured out screaming "Jesus" every few minutes immunizes them from accountability, and if they do get caught, just rinse and repeat. It would be funny if they weren't ripping off those old people.
 
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ronpolk

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Faustdog said:
As someone who attends Pinelake, it makes me sick that our pastor is a part of it. I think Chip enjoys being pals with a local celebrity like Freeze a little much and allows that to cloud his judgment.
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Regardless of your personal options of freeze, and for the records we share this evening same opionions, would you really rather your church turn away someone because they have sinned? Perhaps you shouldn’t be welcomed in Pinelake.
 
Col. Forbin

Col. Forbin

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It's not about turning away anyone. It's about getting up on a podium with them and broadcasting how great of a man Hugh is. If Hugh and Jill want to go and tell their story of infidelity to the masses so be it. But, there is no reason a pastor should be up on the stage with them.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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Crazy Cotton said:
That's a grifters convention right there. They figured out screaming "Jesus" every few minutes immunizes them from accountability, and if they do get caught, just rinse and repeat. It would be funny if they weren't ripping off those old people.
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Yep and this is the number 1 reason "religion" gets such a bad rap. Using Jesus and forgiveness to justify every sinful deed they want to do. "Hey I can do whatever the hell I want as long as I publicly appear later and give a sob story about how I messed up and Jesus forgives me..".....It is sickening.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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I think some Briarcrest alums need to charter a bus and make the trip. I am sure he would be glad to see them.
 
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Faustdog

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ronpolk said:
Regardless of your personal options of freeze, and for the records we share this evening same opionions, would you really rather your church turn away someone because they have sinned? Perhaps you shouldn’t be welcomed in Pinelake.
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Who said anything about turning him away? Is the choice that we must either turn him away or let him preach our Sunday morning services and cooperate on events like this that give him top billing? That doesn’t make sense.
 
o_dawgnabit

o_dawgnabit

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As I Christian, I really do pray that Hugh is seeking redemption and will go through a heart change. But charging people to come listen to you speak is not the way to do it
 
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BiscuitEater

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ronpolk said:
Regardless of your personal options of freeze, and for the records we share this evening same opionions, would you really rather your church turn away someone because they have sinned? Perhaps you shouldn’t be welcomed in Pinelake.
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Absolutely not BUT you are missing the main points and I question whether you even listened to the 'event.' This production was NOT a church turning away Bucky.

Bucky 'used' Christianity to SELL OM .. period. Now, Bucky and his wife are on a tour to tout 'themselves.' Mrs. Bucky reported that she 'instantly' forgave Bucky right after he confessed. According to my reading of the Bible .. they MISSED a step .. REPENTANCE. Repentance requires true brokenness and is an honest, regretful acknowledgement of sin with commitment to change. It's about getting right with God, not a 'look at us' tour!

Sorry, but a tour to tell/sell the world how 'great' Bucky was/is at Liberty reeks of Bucky family 'self' promotion. They are ALSO selling Bucky based on the movie Blind Side which itself is built on LIES.

During the program Bucky 'confessed' to what he called “not honoring his wife.” (He NEVER even said 'what' his sin was) BUT than has the unmitigated gall to say .. 'BUT I had ALREADY stopped 'what I was doing wrong' BEFORE I was fired.'
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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BiscuitEater said:
Repentance requires true brokenness and is an honest, regretful acknowledgement of sin with commitment to change. It's about getting right with God, not a 'look at us' tour!
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Right on! The Apostle Paul spent years persecuting Christians as Saul, But after his conversion he didn't get paid a dime for speaking to churches on his missionary journey.
 
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state2013

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If I got busted cheating on my wife with prostitutes and fired in a very high profile way there is no way in hell my wife or myself for that matter would be comfortable sharing this very personal and embarrassing matter with the world only 6 MONTHS LATER. It would take far more than 6 months to convince my wife to let me back in the house let alone go on to talk publicly about it with her by my side. This seems bizarre and a thinly veiled facade by all parties involved using religion for directly or indirectly financial profit.
 
She Mate Me

She Mate Me

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state2013 said:
If I got busted cheating on my wife with prostitutes and fired in a very high profile way there is no way in hell my wife or myself for that matter would be comfortable sharing this very personal and embarrassing matter with the world only 6 MONTHS LATER. It would take far more than 6 months to convince my wife to let me back in the house let alone go on to talk publicly about it with her by my side. This seems bizarre and a thinly veiled facade by all parties involved using religion for directly or indirectly financial profit.
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Those two must be among the shallowest humans on earth.
 
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TNT.sixpack

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Unless I'm misreading it, this is taking place at Liberty University and not Pinelake. And if Chip is with them, then I think maybe he's just doing his job as their pastor. I agree that I don't want him in the pulpit at Pinelake, but if Liberty University wants him there, more power to them.
 
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lanceharbor7

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And profit is such much faster when you don't have to pay taxes. #501C3

state2013 said:
If I got busted cheating on my wife with prostitutes and fired in a very high profile way there is no way in hell my wife or myself for that matter would be comfortable sharing this very personal and embarrassing matter with the world only 6 MONTHS LATER. It would take far more than 6 months to convince my wife to let me back in the house let alone go on to talk publicly about it with her by my side. This seems bizarre and a thinly veiled facade by all parties involved using religion for directly or indirectly financial profit.
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patdog

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Would your pastor go along with you for your speaking tour? You're either extremely naïve or intentionally ignoring the obvious.
 
615dawg

615dawg

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Yeah, that stunt from Pinelake did a lot of damage to the lost in Rankin County.
 
HumpDawgy

HumpDawgy

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I pray for all the student athletes whose souls are lost due to him not coaching.
 
Col. Forbin

Col. Forbin

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Also, why is he still going by Coach Freeze. He's not coaching anyone anymore. It's all about his public perception.
 
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kired

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Sounds like when he issued an "apology" to OM... but didn't actually apologize anywhere in the statement.
 
preacher_dawg

preacher_dawg

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Now that this is happening, I feel pretty certain that the prostitutes were for recruits. Maybe the wife even knew it was happening. They just had an understanding that this is how you get ahead in the coaching business, but of course, Hugh can't say that, so he and his wife are now just actors, as he has always been. I just can't see any woman doing this six months after all has been revealed.
 
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