Slightly OT: Question for the casino goers

[aTotal360]

A couple years ago, I was in the Palazzo (LV) and I took a picture of the huge screen that had all the CFB odds to win the following years national championship. Only reason I did it was because we actually made the list. I think we were 200/1 or something like that.

Anyway...as I'm taking the picture, I get approached by a couple security guards. They never told me "no pictures", but they did sternly told me to put my camera in pocket and to move along.

Is there some sort of policy of taking pictures of odds? Are they "trade secrets"? What gives? Was it simply because they are protective of other guests' privacy in the casino?

 

[Dawgbite]

Probably thought you were casing the joint.

 

[mcdawg22]

Casinos typically don't want pictures taken. Especially if other people are in them.

 

[aTotal360]

Plausible. I do look like a jewel thief from the 1800s.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Could be some of...or all of it

If I am in a Casino, I Do Not want someone to take my picture.

But I don't go anymore....so help your self.

 

[patdog]

I'm surprised they didn't make you delete the picture. I think the casino is like the strip club. No pictures allowed.

 

[johnson86-1]

A couple years ago, I was in the Palazzo (LV) and I took a picture of the huge screen that had all the CFB odds to win the following years national championship. Only reason I did it was because we actually made the list. I think we were 200/1 or something like that.

Anyway...as I'm taking the picture, I get approached by a couple security guards. They never told me "no pictures", but they did sternly told me to put my camera in pocket and to move along.

Is there some sort of policy of taking pictures of odds? Are they "trade secrets"? What gives? Was it simply because they are protective of other guests' privacy in the casino?

There are lots of extremely smart people that try to come up with ways to rip off the casino. Do you want your $20-25 an hour employee tryign to judge whether a picture is really useful to an extremely smart person in scamming the casino? Or do you want them to just stop pictures period?

Here's an example of how a "harmless" concession cost one casino millions. Hard to believe they thought it was harmless but I guess whales are often superstitious? https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...st-wait-appeal-10-million-judgment/393608001/

 

[kired]

In general I think if you're taking pictures of people you're with, it's ok. But just general pictures of the gaming area or machines typically aren't allowed. And no videos.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

I was at the Luxor in 2009. As we were checking in (so not even on the gambling floor) there was a blacked out Lamborghini sitting by the front door. I thought it was cool so I take a picture. As soon as my flash goes off two security guards come up to me and tell me no more pictures anywhere on the property and then made me go through my pictures and show them I didn't have any more.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I have two for this one.

1st. How can anything stay in Vegas if they let everyone take random pics?

2nd. If you were to take pictures, they are only allowed with the $39.95 disposable in the mini bar.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

My wife goes to Vegas every year for a trade show and she shows me all sorts of pictures. She constantly takes pictures on any trip. Now she doesn't gamble or hangout in the casino. Most pictures are restaurants, stores, lobby, etc.

 

[msstate7]

There are lots of extremely smart people that try to come up with ways to rip off the casino. Do you want your $20-25 an hour employee tryign to judge whether a picture is really useful to an extremely smart person in scamming the casino? Or do you want them to just stop pictures period?

Here's an example of how a "harmless" concession cost one casino millions. Hard to believe they thought it was harmless but I guess whales are often superstitious? https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...st-wait-appeal-10-million-judgment/393608001/

I think this explains it better...

https://deadspin.com/how-phil-ivey-beat-or-maybe-cheated-a-casino-for-mill-1562993963

 

[thekimmer]

Well its probably moot because with today's tiny recording devices...

There are lots of extremely smart people that try to come up with ways to rip off the casino. Do you want your $20-25 an hour employee tryign to judge whether a picture is really useful to an extremely smart person in scamming the casino? Or do you want them to just stop pictures period?

Here's an example of how a "harmless" concession cost one casino millions. Hard to believe they thought it was harmless but I guess whales are often superstitious? https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...st-wait-appeal-10-million-judgment/393608001/

An extremely smart person or even one of average intelligence can easily take as many pictures and videos as they want without being detected and without spending much money. Heck you can set up your smart phone to take hands free pics or videos and just slip the thing in your shirt pocket with the lens sticking out at the top. I don't think they are that worried about tourist photos. It probably has as much to do with ALLOWING the practice. If they see it happen they have to stop you or they'd have a harder time going after someone who did it covertly for nefarious purpose.

 

[missouridawg]

I think this explains it better...

https://deadspin.com/how-phil-ivey-beat-or-maybe-cheated-a-casino-for-mill-1562993963

Theres a good 30 for 30 podcast on this as well.

 

[msstate7]

Theres a good 30 for 30 podcast on this as well.

Cool, I’ll check that out. I had never heard of this, but find it fascinating

 

[Milo.sixpack]

I was at the Luxor in 2009. As we were checking in (so not even on the gambling floor) there was a blacked out Lamborghini sitting by the front door. I thought it was cool so I take a picture. As soon as my flash goes off two security guards come up to me and tell me no more pictures anywhere on the property and then made me go through my pictures and show them I didn't have any more.

I imagine there have been a few pics taken inside casino hotel rooms.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

I was at the Luxor in 2009. As we were checking in (so not even on the gambling floor) there was a blacked out Lamborghini sitting by the front door. I thought it was cool so I take a picture. As soon as my flash goes off two security guards come up to me and tell me no more pictures anywhere on the property and then made me go through my pictures and show them I didn't have any more.

I’m sorry. I would have obliged them with the “no more pictures” request but they can get 17’ed if they think they are taking my camera/phone or even thinking I am going to show them any more pictures on my phone. They aren’t the law. They are rent-a-cops. I would laugh in their 17’ ing faces at the mere request to show them the rest of my pics.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

It’s the same reason you can’t walkninto a bank and start taking pics. They don’t want you to have a record of their technology on hand that keeps you from robbing the place. It doesn’t have anything to do with the people there.

 

[RocketDawg]

It’s the same reason you can’t walkninto a bank and start taking pics. They don’t want you to have a record of their technology on hand that keeps you from robbing the place. It doesn’t have anything to do with the people there.

I suppose even a real cop would need a search warrant, and that takes time, and I doubt a judge would grant it.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I’m sorry. I would have obliged them with the “no more pictures” request but they can get 17’ed if they think they are taking my camera/phone or even thinking I am going to show them any more pictures on my phone. They aren’t the law. They are rent-a-cops. I would laugh in their 17’ ing faces at the mere request to show them the rest of my pics.

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[ckDOG]

As long as you are cool with not staying there, laugh away

I’m sorry. I would have obliged them with the “no more pictures” request but they can get 17’ed if they think they are taking my camera/phone or even thinking I am going to show them any more pictures on my phone. They aren’t the law. They are rent-a-cops. I would laugh in their 17’ ing faces at the mere request to show them the rest of my pics.

They aren’t the law, but you’re also a guest on private property. Unless you are a high roller, no room to ***** when they say GTFO.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

I’m sorry. I would have obliged them with the “no more pictures” request but they can get 17’ed if they think they are taking my camera/phone or even thinking I am going to show them any more pictures on my phone. They aren’t the law. They are rent-a-cops. I would laugh in their 17’ ing faces at the mere request to show them the rest of my pics.

I didn't have anything to hide. There was no reason to make a big deal out of it

 

[JoMo MoJo]

I have pictures on my phone that show my wife in, let’s say, a compromised position. So yeah. No one gets to see those. It’s a game she plays with me and I don’t mind one bit.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I have pictures on my phone that show my wife in, let’s say, a compromised position. So yeah. No one gets to see those. It’s a game she plays with me and I don’t mind one bit.

We don't believe you. Prove it.

 

[patdog]

OK, now WE are going to have to scroll through the pics on your phone.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

I'M pretty sure that most casinos have a sign at the entrance to the gaming floor that photos & videos are not allowed. I've seen signs in both Vegas and Reno, even in Vicksburg.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

Ha. I imagine a lot of dudes have those same type of pics and is why these over zealous security guards are looking through everyone’s phones at casinos. My pics can only be accessed by my fingerprint but my wife also knows my password to unlock. I have nothing to hide from her but there is definitely sensitive info that I would not want others to see. If Apple can refuse to surrender info to federal authorities to unlock iPhones, the chance that the rent-o-cop at Silver Star gets to see my wife’s Golden Moon is zip!

 

[JoMo MoJo]

They do and they have the right to have those signs there. The problem is that it is kind of a half empty threat. The most they can do if you are caught videoing or taking pics is ask you to leave. They cannot seize your property nor can they demand to see what you have taken pics of. But that doesn’t stop them from trying.

 

[tatedog]

Some of the casinos' most profitable players are people who explicitly do not want their photos taken. This policy is largely in place for them. If it were up to the casino with no consideration of their guests, they would love the free publicity.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

Aren’t most of those games played in backrooms away from the main floor?

 

[tatedog]

I'm not necessarily talking about celebrities or whales. Just people who like to gamble a lot and don't necessarily need to worry about others finding out, by accident or on purpose. There are plenty of casinos who encourage photos to be taken on their property. If this is an issue of importance to you, they welcome your business.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

A couple years ago, I was in the Palazzo (LV) and I took a picture of the huge screen that had all the CFB odds to win the following years national championship. Only reason I did it was because we actually made the list. I think we were 200/1 or something like that.

Anyway...as I'm taking the picture, I get approached by a couple security guards. They never told me "no pictures", but they did sternly told me to put my camera in pocket and to move along.

Is there some sort of policy of taking pictures of odds? Are they "trade secrets"? What gives? Was it simply because they are protective of other guests' privacy in the casino?

Try that **** at a Madison Pineapple Party*....

 

[JoMo MoJo]

That would be like not wanting to be caught cheating by going to the closest WalMart to your house and having sex in the front entrance at 5pm.

 

[tatedog]

That would be like not wanting to be caught cheating by going to the closest WalMart to your house and having sex in the front entrance at 5pm.

I'm pretty sure walmart has a policy against that as well.