during this cold weather. Not necessarily yours, but for any other ******* that leaves their dogs out in the cold. If you saw the story about the dog frozen solid on a porch, you understand. My days of giving the benefit of the doubt is over. I will be inviting the man into other people’s lives at the drop of a hat.
OT: Keep an eye out for pets
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Thank you for this post. Every winter I worry about pets with horrid owners. Dogs tied to trees with no shelter being a primary one. I hope people do speak up when seeing these situations. It is absolutely unacceptable. Same goes with extreme heat. People who don’t care for/abuse their animals are among the lowest form of scum out there.
Dogs have only been inside houses for the past 50-75 years, the previous 100,000 years they lived outside and did fine. As long as they have access to shelter, they will be good, especially in the relatively mild temps in MS.
That's one thing I've never understood....
Why in the living 17 would someone own a pet if it's just gonna be a burden to them where they won't take care of it. It's like kids, if you're not, or can't take care of them and give them a semi-comfortable life, make sure you take appropriate measures to where you don't end up with one or more.
Why in the living 17 would someone own a pet if it's just gonna be a burden to them where they won't take care of it. It's like kids, if you're not, or can't take care of them and give them a semi-comfortable life, make sure you take appropriate measures to where you don't end up with one or more.
I don't understand the point in owning a dog and keeping it locked up outside period.
In a separate and far less important rant, I don't understand people that get puppies but don't have the time, the money, or the desire to train them. People's animals will usually tell you a lot about who they really are.
I have a neighbor whose dogs I'm taking care of right now that has a lab and a 1yo miniature Jack Russell. The lab is older but went to school and is well trained. He's a great dog. No trouble whatsoever. The neighbor would keep him kenneled during the day for some unknown reason though(inside). After I got a good feel for the dog, I finally just refused to keep locking him back up for hours on end and once he realized the dog was going to be fine inside he doesn't lock him up either. The JR on the other hand has spent it's whole life locked up basically. As such, it's an idiot. Doesn't know not to go to the bathroom in it's kennel because it's spent it's whole life doing it. Then you sure don't want to pet it and give it any attention because it's been laying in crap all day. Can't leave out because it doesn't know what is acceptable and what isn't. And I don't have the time to provide free training nor the funds to send the dog to school. After a year, it's kinda past the point of much training probably. Every time I spend much time thinking about it, it burns me up. Very intelligent puppy with typical JR mannerisms that just needed training and attention.
My lab will be sleeping wherever she wants in here, as she normally does. But she is absolutely loving this weather. At least until all the squirrels lay up.
In a separate and far less important rant, I don't understand people that get puppies but don't have the time, the money, or the desire to train them. People's animals will usually tell you a lot about who they really are.
I have a neighbor whose dogs I'm taking care of right now that has a lab and a 1yo miniature Jack Russell. The lab is older but went to school and is well trained. He's a great dog. No trouble whatsoever. The neighbor would keep him kenneled during the day for some unknown reason though(inside). After I got a good feel for the dog, I finally just refused to keep locking him back up for hours on end and once he realized the dog was going to be fine inside he doesn't lock him up either. The JR on the other hand has spent it's whole life locked up basically. As such, it's an idiot. Doesn't know not to go to the bathroom in it's kennel because it's spent it's whole life doing it. Then you sure don't want to pet it and give it any attention because it's been laying in crap all day. Can't leave out because it doesn't know what is acceptable and what isn't. And I don't have the time to provide free training nor the funds to send the dog to school. After a year, it's kinda past the point of much training probably. Every time I spend much time thinking about it, it burns me up. Very intelligent puppy with typical JR mannerisms that just needed training and attention.
My lab will be sleeping wherever she wants in here, as she normally does. But she is absolutely loving this weather. At least until all the squirrels lay up.
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Man has always sought shelter and was not intended to and did not evolve to live in in the elements. Hence why primates have fur and humans to do not.
My issue is when the option to seek shelter is taken away by chains or fences. I agree most animals can figure it out but once you domesticate them and trap them, it's your duty to ensure they have proper shelter, water, food. Unfortunately there are many out there that don't share this sentiment. And like the OP said it's up to other responsible people to report this abuse.
Just my opinion, but I don't see how it can be seen as a bad one.
Just my opinion, but I don't see how it can be seen as a bad one.
Dogs have evolved just like humans have, to the point where many of them depend of man to give them decent food and shelter. Especially when you consider different breeds of dog with short fur and little fat or muscle. Many breeds are totally incapable of surviving without even a little care.
We are going to go below freezing Sunday about 6 -- with precipitation -- and aren't expected to be back above for ~ 66 hours in central MS. Hence why this post was made. It wasn't some generic, non-pointed statement.
I agree. A simple shelter to escape wind and stay dry (yes, even a plastic barrel) with a little bit of straw, and they will be fine.
If you want to be scientific about it, dogs have changed more as a species over the last couple hundred years than in the rest of their natural history due to selective breeding. Wolf/coyote/dingo does not equal Labrador/poodle/Maltese. Sure, there are some dogs that can survive out in cold weather just fine. Some of them will die if it gets below freezing. Some of them will die if they eat cheap dog food. A pack of hunting beagles with a good dog house and some bedding should be fine. Most single dogs probably won’t be when it gets really cold. Of course if you are fine letting your “pet” possibly freeze to death, I guess there’s really only one way to find out.
And primates almost exclusively live in the tropics. Humans don’t have less hair because they didn’t need it. That’s not how evolution works.
And primates almost exclusively live in the tropics. Humans don’t have less hair because they didn’t need it. That’s not how evolution works.
Seriously dude have you never watched Finding Bigfoot? It's Squatchy in the Northeast.
I realize being a pus is bred into everyone nowadays, but your outside dog with shelter in the backyard will be fine. Obviously, don't chain/fence him so he can't get out of the wind and rain.
It’s gonna be in the 20s and teens overnight for most of the state for the next few days. That is not mild temps by any means.
Well, don’t be coy about it, tell us how evolution works; I’m dying to know. Where are the human tapole (or later) fossils? I’m 70 and dying to know the mystery of life before my demise. Thanks....
Some dogs love it outside in this weather. I have a Great Pyrenees that will have ice hanging off her. She has a barn and about 90 round bales of hay to cuddle up with. I keel a door open to the shop with a heat lamp for her and the cats. She won’t use it. She will run around outside in the cold and wet weather. I don’t worry about her in the winter but I do in the summer.
I agree with everything you said, but it’s important to note that “this” weather is not here yet. Monday/Tuesday very well might be the coldest day in Jackson since ~ 1996...
And I said what I did about hypothermia because it’s important that people understand it. It doesn’t make it obvious it’s about kill you or your dog past the very early stage shivering which doesn’t necessarily last long enough for you to catch it. You cease to realize you are cold. I had it early past the shivering phase after stepping into a full submersion beaver run a couple miles from the truck. “I’m fine now, I’m good. The water in my waders warmed up to body temp and it’s toasty now.” You realize how bad you f’d up only after you truly start to get warm again, which is hours of misery.
If we get the precip being expected tomorrow, the situation in ms is going to be as serious as it gets here...
And I said what I did about hypothermia because it’s important that people understand it. It doesn’t make it obvious it’s about kill you or your dog past the very early stage shivering which doesn’t necessarily last long enough for you to catch it. You cease to realize you are cold. I had it early past the shivering phase after stepping into a full submersion beaver run a couple miles from the truck. “I’m fine now, I’m good. The water in my waders warmed up to body temp and it’s toasty now.” You realize how bad you f’d up only after you truly start to get warm again, which is hours of misery.
If we get the precip being expected tomorrow, the situation in ms is going to be as serious as it gets here...
So having dogs kenneled outside with shelter makes me not worthy of owning a dog? You guys that live in Jackson or whatever **** hole suburb of Jackson are clueless. There are hunting dogs kenneled in Canada outside right now in snow that are just fine. Just because you like to be in bed with your dog trading farts back and forth doesn't mean everyone has to.
17 you.
17 you.
Agreed. If you have a small dog then it probably needs to be inside. My wife has a yorkie that would most certainly die if let outside this weekend but that is no the case for every dog. I have a cat that stays outside. She wanted wouldn’t come in even if we let her... we’ve tried before on cold nights.
Because the OP reads like you’re an ******* and terrible person if your pet is outside the next few days, which is a blanket statement that is dumb. Most people with pets outside give them some type of shelter.
Interesting. I read it as people who are responsible pet owners be on the look out for animals being neglected in the extreme cold coming, and help those animals out. A sentiment which was prompted after a dog was found frozen solid on a front porch.
I guess we read into what we want to see.
I guess we read into what we want to see.
Most people have no common sense or they are just cold hearted 17ers. I hate seeing a dog tied to a tree. It's like they don't realize that animals can feel pain or sorrow. But we live in the south with the biggest dumbasses in the world.
Same way I read it, which is what was intended. My chihuahua is an inside dog and always has been. If she were left out in it, as cold as it's going to get, she probably wouldn't make it. I do agree that if there is something we can do to help out the less fortunate animals that are left out in the cold, we should help them. Put them up in a shop, garage, carport, call the shelter, or something. It's not very difficult for some, others, it may be. Those that are difficult to deal with, call a shelter. Why did this have to turn into a debate about who's a ****** pet owner or not?
Internet tough guy alert. You are proof not all humans have evolved as much as others.
i have a german shorthaired pointer and he wants to be outside when its 10 degrees if there are squirrels out there. i have to make him come inside so he doesn't freeze. he'll be dead on pointing at nothing he thinks to be something for an hour regardless of temperature. Food, shelter, and water and most dogs will be alright... but no reason to put them out in this type bitter cold if you have a warm house. The asshats that tie their dogs up deserved the same treatment. don't get a dog if you ain't got a fence
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