I miss Richard Williams

[SpeckTaker]

Watching "Those Boys From State" reinforced what real coaching is.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Are you kidding?

 

[SpeckTaker]

Did you see any of these**?

 

[Philly Dawg]

Stansbury was 10x the coach Richard Williams was. We had winning records in the SEC four out of twelve and winning overall recoeds five out of twelve seasons Williams was coach.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Williams was a good coach, but as cousin Eddie said best "he's got a bit of Misssippie Leg Hound in him..."
So the winning ways would be back, but our Cheer Squad would look...er...a little different.***

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[MSUDawgFan86]

Stansbury was 10x the coach Richard Williams was. We had winning records in the SEC four out of twelve and winning overall recoeds five out of twelve seasons Williams was coach.

Hahahahahaha Bull 17ing ****! Williams would coach circles around Stans. How many Sweet 16s and Final 4 appearances did Stans have? I’ll wait...

 

[Shmuley]

Classic.

 

[blackjackdog3]

Why did Richard Williams leave State? It seems like he had the program headed in the right direction and the abruptly left.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Lot of affairs...made Bill Clinton look like a eunuch or a celibate priest. Some instances were supposedly with MSU students, that's why he went to the Final Four in 1996 and mysteriously "retired" after the next season.

 

[Palos verdes]

I like Ben Howland, but If he doesn't get it going later this season, Dick should be hired immediately. I know he can coach these dudes as well as anybody out there, plus he's much older now. The guy is a great tactician of the game and wants to jump in there and fix this ****, you can hear the urgency in his voice.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Stansbury was 10x the coach Richard Williams was. We had winning records in the SEC four out of twelve and winning overall recoeds five out of twelve seasons Williams was coach.

Yours is an unpopular opinion but occasionally a coach catches lightning in a bottle and parlays it into a couple of tournament runs. Williams and his staff did a nice job of coaching those Dampier teams.

Despite his efforts, Williams had a hard time getting back in after he left MSU. That to me is the red flag that helps your argument.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Had a quick interaction with him while I was at State. Got to see his true character and wasn't impressed. That said, he got us to the final 4 and put some excitement in the hump, so he did a good job before he began his bird doggin.

 

[tcdog70]

Williams was good when he had Stans bringing in the talent and John Brady Coaching. Dick had 2 good years.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I miss the Richard Williams Haters Club...

 

[BiscuitEater]

Why did Richard Williams leave State? It seems like he had the program headed in the right direction and the abruptly left.

He coached MSU for two years 'after' the final 4 season. '96/'97 went 12-18/6-10 SEC and 97'/'98 went 15-15/4-12 SEC. Left for 'personal' reasons.

Stans took over and went 20-13/8-8 SEC '98/'99

 

[L4Dawg]

If you weren't around back then you have no idea what Richard took over and what he had his first couple of years. To go from that to the Final Four is the best coaching job we have ever had at MSU.

 

[Philly Dawg]

So what? John Brady went to a final four. Dale Brown went to two. Neither was a great basketball coach.

If you coach twelve years, have seven bad seasons, and have a losing record in conference, are you a great coach?

And if final fours mean so much, you should be loving Howland.

 

[Ranchdawg]

Bringing Dontae Jones in was the biggest "coaching job" he did leading up to the final four. How involve he was in that remains to be seen but Dontae was the difference maker on that team.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

I cannot imagine why. They are mostly on this board, so they aren't very far at all

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Oh. I know. Just reminiscing about the old Dawgnews.

 

[L4Dawg]

So what? John Brady went to a final four. Dale Brown went to two. Neither was a great basketball coach.

If you coach twelve years, have seven bad seasons, and have a losing record in conference, are you a great coach?

And if final fours mean so much, you should be loving Howland.

Again, you have no idea how bad we were when Richard took over, and we hadn't been much in a while. Like since the early 60s.

 

[patdog]

I honestly think Murrah could have given Boyd's last team a good game. It really was that bad. Dickie V said MSU was the hardest place in the country to win at back then, and honestly, he was right. Williams had his limitations as a coach, but he did an outstanding job of pulling us out of a very deep hole and setting the table for Stans to win much more consistently than he did. I think Stans was a better overall coach, but both were great for us overall.

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

Wow, revoke your membership.

 

[Philly Dawg]

My family had season tickets for several of those Bob Boyd years so I have quite a decent idea how bad it was. The team RW took over was bad and he went on to win an SEC title, even if UK had a better record but was on probation. But that only accounts for three of his bad seasons. I’m more concerned about the four out of eight poor seasons following the SEC championship.

But that raises another question, if we have Williams three bad years to rebuild when he took over a struggling program why wouldn’t we give the same to Howland?