Bob Shoop is the DC

Dawgpoundrock21

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You can't blame shoop for his players quiting on him, it's hard for anyone to be successful in that kind of environment. I think he will do great here
 

maroonmania

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Not surprising I guess since both Moorhead and Shoop have the Penn St./James Franklin connection.
 

Thirty-Two Dive

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He's been successful, if you only ignore the fact that UT's putrid offense left his unit on the field for way too many snaps. It's like worst case scenario, where your are players are increasingly tired, injured, and apathetic.

This will be a good reset.
 

PonderThis1

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[FONT=&quot]Take out the UT years. We can all agree that was a dumpster fire.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Yards per play rank
15/16: 10th
14/15: 3rd (previous year 36th)
13/14: 33rd (With Vandy talent)
12/13: 21st (With Vandy talent)
11/12: 16th (With Vandy talent. Previous year 75th)[/FONT]
 

maroonmania

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was at Vandy before. That was a chore.

5 years or so with Franklin.

Seems to be a pretty decent hire. Guess I've just got to somehow get that image out of my head of GT running for 535 yards against Shoop's UT defense in the first game of the season LONG before the team had quit on everything.
 

HumpDawgy

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I would have rather it had been a coordinator from a defense that performed better last season, but JoeMo forgot to call and ask for my opinion. Shoop it is.....or Shoop....day it tis!!!!!
 

Msubulldogfan1

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He was considered elite before UT. Looks like it doesn’t take long for him to install his system based on the first year numbers, although they trend down after every year.

We could do a lot worse. I’ll take him.
 
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Going back to the 4-3 doesn't fit our roster and the players recruited. The "experts" think it's a good hire but I'm not so sure. Could be a complete disaster.
 

bulldognation

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As long as we don’t start toting a trash can around on the sidelines I’m good I guess.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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After further research his defenses at PSU we’re good to great and his defenses at Vandy were very good. His defenses at UT were 17ing awful. Here are his total defense rankings: ‘17-82, ‘16-95, ‘15-14, ‘14-2, ‘13-23, ‘12-19, ‘11-18.
 

maroonmania

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This is what concerned me when we did not hang on to Grantham. With the team we have coming back next year I really didn't want to see our defense experimenting with changing out the successful scheme we had this year. Shoop taking us back to a 4-3 will be a risky move as to how it will work out.
 

tired

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Going back to the 4-3 doesn't fit our roster and the players recruited. The "experts" think it's a good hire but I'm not so sure. Could be a complete disaster.

I agree. Very underwhelming hire. I guess if we can have a top 25 offense it'll be ok to have a mediocre defense. Maybe we should run a 4-4
 

thf24

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I think it'll be fine; it's much easier to switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 than vice versa. Sweat and Spencer can be every down college DE's, and the rest of the DL remains more or less unchanged. LB is practically unchanged as well since we played 3 LB's with Gray as a hybrid LB/S most of the time anyway. Secondary is unaffected regardless.
 

AlCoDog

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It’s amazing to me how much more State message board posters know about the intricacies of defensive schemes than a guy that has coordinated top 25 defenses for 17ing Vandy.
 

goodknight

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Shoop there it is

Good hire IMO!. UT was a train wreck with no offense at all. His defenses spent the vast majority of time on the field in most games. Combine that with a injuries and the bad situation they were put in with the firing of Butch Jones I'd write this year off and look at his entire body of work.
 

tired

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For me, it's got nothing to do with "intricacies of defensive schemes". He had awful defenses at TN & I worry that coaches may have figured out his defense. He wouldn't be the first d coordinator to have his d figured out.
 

Southern Law Dawg

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It’s amazing to me how much more State message board posters know about the intricacies of defensive schemes than a guy that has coordinated top 25 defenses for 17ing Vandy.

Exactly. This is a fantastic hire and a good way to weed out those message board posters who don't know anything.
 

Duke Humphrey

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Yea, like.......... Grantham

For me, it's got nothing to do with "intricacies of defensive schemes". He had awful defenses at TN & I worry that coaches may have figured out his defense. He wouldn't be the first d coordinator to have his d figured out.
nm
 

johnson86-1

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I think it'll be fine; it's much easier to switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3 than vice versa. Sweat and Spencer can be every down college DE's, and the rest of the DL remains more or less unchanged. LB is practically unchanged as well since we played 3 LB's with Gray as a hybrid LB/S most of the time anyway. Secondary is unaffected regardless.

I actually think a 4-3 will be easier for us to recruit longer term. Even though LBs are one of the easiest positions for us to recruit, I'm not sure we can consistently get the type of NG we need for a good 3-4. I hate that we aren't going to have consistency going into next year when our D is built to win next year. But we might be glad in 2019 to be in a 4-3 when Simmons is gone.
 

dogfan96

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They've also been absolutely decimated by injuries the last 2 seasons.. I believe they have 5 or so rotation guys who are out for the year and last year it was pretty similar.. they had to move DEs inside to play DT bc so many guys got hurt.
 

tired

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In 2016 with the 16th most experience returning on defense in the nation.

Tennessee allowed 353 and 409 yards rushing to Texas A&M and Alabama.

Kentucky racked up 635 yards, including 443 on the ground.

Missouri rushed for 420 yards en route to a 740-yard performance, the most yards ever allowed by a Tennessee defense, replacing the dubious mark set against Troy by the Sal-Sunseri-led disaster defense of 2012.

Kyle Shurmur torched the Vols' inept secondary as the Commodores scored 45 points, their highest against an SEC opponent since 1970.


Yeah his d got figured out.
 

engie

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May 29, 2011
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Shoop Tn = Diaz Tx.... only Shoop is much more experienced.

24 mo ago he was literally interchangeable with Dave Aranda as the hottest DC names out there
 

AlCoDog

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I’m not sure of the exact number of quarters, but at one point this year, UT’s offense went like 2 1/2 games without scoring a TD. I imagine it’s hard to have a good defense with that kind of support.