Egg Bowl

[JungRebel]

Some thoughts.

Win feels hollow, NCAA and bowl ban and all that, but I especially hate winning when Fitz got hurt as he did. He was probably worth 40 points in this game, given that he would've protected the ball better and y'all would've been able to melt the clock.

I don't think the injury was intentional, perhaps it was; certainly the defender went low. I'm not sure where else you want him to go; It makes no sense to try and tackle him high, and it happened too fast to be a calculated shot by my eyes, but perhaps I am more biased than those who disagree with that assessment.

Just a bizarre game overall, one only football could produce. So many bounces went our way and we are still the dumbest, most undisciplined team I saw this year. This game cemented my belief that Luke and the rest of this staff need to be fired immediately. 100+ penalty yards, several PFs at crucial moments, retarded lack of preparation for the first onside kick, bailed out by a freak injury.

Fitz is a great player, hope he returns at 100% next year. We won this game basically by default when he went down because he's a huge mismatch and his presence negates the mismatches in our favor. At 100% y'all beat us by 30, without a doubt your team was better.

 

[mcdawg22]

That injury was not intentional. Y'all won. We got a bad break. That's all it was. Congrats to you guys, I wish we would have won, but we didn't because you made more plays than we did. Happy Thanksgiving

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Thanks for the band aid on tonight's gash...not quite sure you truly mean all the things you typed but we appreciate it all the same.

Ole Miss did what they had to do to win a road football game in the SEC...win the Turnover battle and have more "Big Plays" (JWS terminology) than your opponent. Basically every Ole Miss "Big Play" went for a Touchdown, that is incredible. Also while I am complimenting Ole Miss let me say your ENTIRE WR group will play in the NFL, I can't remember another position group on a single team all get drafted.

Now for some criticism, which I feel much more comfortable with typing. The penalties and the extended celebrations / taunting / piss marking territory in the end zone looked like an episode of ESPN 30 for 30 "The U Part 3" or perhaps an EMCC crazy episode on "Last Chance U". Fitzgerald's limp-landshark gesture after a TD last year was inappropriate but at least he was walking back to the MSU sidelines while doing it. A.J Brown was pointing into our stands, gesturing at the crowd, and mocking ringing a cowbell...I realize it was emotional coming back to Starkville for him but shut us up with your performance don't try to challenge and taunt 60,000 hometown folks who filled the SHS football stadium for you when you were a Yellow Jacket.

 

[BELdog]

This is how I saw it as well. Fitz was injured on a football play. It's the kind of stuff that happens when 200 lb semi-adults run around tackling eachother. We played like crap and had every bounce go against us. We had some bad calls go against us, but we had a few bad calls go our way as well. Sloppy game that we lost because we couldn't stop AJ Brown and we didn't have a receiver that was half his equivalent.

 

[BossDawg78]

I'm not saying this just to be an *******, I'm 110% serious...but OM players and the few OM fans I was amongst tonight have no 17ing clue how to win with just a little dignity.

It's one thing to win and act like you've done it a time or two before. It's another to win and act like damn children.

 

[Sapsdawg]

well it is unfortunate. The players are going to watch the tape and get pissed and numerous dirty plays. There were at least three late intentional targeting hits not called. What i hate is for any players to play dirty and do the **** like DK. Just remember that next year when our players retaliate and do similar things. I’ll dislike it and know you will too.

 

[bulldognation]

Sp who was the OL coach when Sowell went after Cherringtons knee? You’re telling me Luke tells his kids to play clean against MSU?
I call BS on that. They went after Fitz. And if you guys hire that POS as your full time HC you deserve the death penalty.
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?179973-In-honor-of-Egg-Bowl-week

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

I’m not convinced the injury was intentional, but it could have been. I do know there is no reason to go low like that and roll especially when you have another teammate on the other side about to engage. It was dirty but I don’t think intentional.

I will say this. If OM wanted to turn this rivalry into a complete trashy hate filled rivalry on the players part, it worked. If you don’t expect some sort of retaliation next year then you guys are blind. The OM players can’t stay on their line of scrimmage during timeouts and inbetween plays, they act like they are pissing on our field, constantly taunting fans, they repeatedly go low on our players on offense and defense, can’t stay on their sideline(I have no idea how there weren’t more flags thrown on this) and most of all intentionally or not they destroyed Fitz’s leg.

I can’t see how next year won’t be one of the trashiest games ever. I hope it’s not. I hope our players just come out and beat OM by 60, but I doubt it will stay civilized. You act like savage you will be treated with savagery.

I know you weren’t on the field and if you are like the good OM fans I know, then you were pretty ashamed with their actions in this game. I know I would be if that were MSU.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Throw some pillows on your floor. Put some kinda object upright representing a person. Now try to tackle that object low. If you do this its obvious to you real quick that it takes extra effort and muscle function to bend your arm back and lead with your elbow. Claim it wasn't intentional all yall want. Physics proves you wrong.

 

[kired]

We won't retaliate because Mullen won't allow it. Could you imagine what he does if we have a player pull the **** Metcalf did last night?

UM has the inmates running the asylum in every part of their football program. Our programs are complete opposites - we're absolutely nothing alike. Unfortunately the better team lost last night and it sucks like hell. But from what I've seen of them this year and depending on what the NCAA does - they better enjoy this one because football season is going to suck in Oxford for years to come.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

What LB tackles the way that Gates threw hits body and rolled his hips towards the knees of Fitz?

You may not be one of the OM faithful that was wishing for injury, but there were plenty, and you will never convince me of anything other than that OM genuinely believes MSU is the reason y'all dumbasses got in trouble and were out for revenge.

It was dirty. It was petty. It was certainly disgraceful. It was Ole Miss. You guys wanted it that bad and I hope you enjoy it.

 

[dawgdr]

Just watched for first time. How can anybody say he was trying to tackle him? No way he brings him down if no other player engaging him with that hit. He was in an upright position and went low on purpose. Did he mean to break his leg? Prolly not. Knock him out of the game? You betcha!

 

[HumpDawgy]

On the onside kicks, we should have put Simmons on the side that AJ went, then kick a hopper to that side and watch Simmons crucify that SOB.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Just know that team last night that celebrated injuries, took out our QB, had a player ejected, countless trashy displays...that’s the team you root for, and the culture of your fan base.

 

[bulldognation]

Almost looks like a lack of institutional control.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Even the whole charade of OM team kneeling looked choreographed. Just pathetic human beings on the bear **** sideline.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Piss on Ole Miss.... Dirty Boosters, Dirty Players, Dirty Coaches, Dirty Administration...The whole country is seeing them for what they really are... an embarrassment to both Academics and Athletics....do you think any real institution would have kept Bjork and Vitter after they turned a blind eye on Freeze?... What goes on in the dark eventually comes to light.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Almost looks like a lack of institutional control.

I would say the display I saw last night was COMPLETE institution control. How else can you explain the coach hugging the dog pisser and the TSUN dude escorting that waving piece of **** but never even attempting to corral him?

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Nafoom level humble bragging right there. Get that **** out of here. Too soon

 

[DocHolliday.sixpack]

Do you realize what trash your athletics program is ?

Just curious. This rebel cheating , lying , Haiti trip taking, escort calling is and has always been the way you guys operate. You want to win regardless of the means it takes to do so. Does it even bother you? The fact your AD that was in charge while all this went down is still active should tell you what you need to know. Let me guess, “y’all do it too”.

 

[JungRebel]

The fact of the win is there, yes, but did you read the rest of the post? Obviously it was too soon for some. Forgive me.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

I think you're sincere. Every college football fan of good faith, even Ole Miss football fans, are appalled at the abomination that the Ole Miss Rebel players acting like they had no home training....as well as their coaches condoning such horrid behavior.

Perhaps a two year death penalty will get this out of Ole Miss' system, along with Federal control of the Ole Miss Athletic Department, for Reconstruction of the program.

 

[JungRebel]

I should've emphasized more in the OP how embarrassing the lack of discipline is. I've talked to several relatives (OM fans) today who say, "Well, State provoked us by ..." to which I reply that doesn't 17'ing matter, I've never allowed myself to be so mad at someone that I do something like Metcalf did, and I would hope if I was and did I wouldn't be in for another down.

Luke has to go, everyone walking around on that sideline without disciplining our team last night has to go. The most fitting thing that could have happened last night would have been for State to win.

OK, that's it. See y'all in a few weeks minus FF and OT threads.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

Some thoughts.

Win feels hollow, NCAA and bowl ban and all that, but I especially hate winning when Fitz got hurt as he did. He was probably worth 40 points in this game, given that he would've protected the ball better and y'all would've been able to melt the clock.

I don't think the injury was intentional, perhaps it was; certainly the defender went low. I'm not sure where else you want him to go; It makes no sense to try and tackle him high, and it happened too fast to be a calculated shot by my eyes, but perhaps I am more biased than those who disagree with that assessment.

Just a bizarre game overall, one only football could produce. So many bounces went our way and we are still the dumbest, most undisciplined team I saw this year. This game cemented my belief that Luke and the rest of this staff need to be fired immediately. 100+ penalty yards, several PFs at crucial moments, retarded lack of preparation for the first onside kick, bailed out by a freak injury.

Fitz is a great player, hope he returns at 100% next year. We won this game basically by default when he went down because he's a huge mismatch and his presence negates the mismatches in our favor. At 100% y'all beat us by 30, without a doubt your team was better.

It was dirty. Players and coaches know it was dirty. It and other plays will be shared with SEC office. There won't be a public reprimand but the message will be delivered. Considering the current state of OM this is not a good thing and terrible timing.

 

[wasabaka]

**** you. (17 usage omitted for emphasis)

 

[BossDawg78]

Even the whole charade of OM team kneeling looked choreographed. Just pathetic human beings on the bear **** sideline.

It's their culture. It's all about the dog-and-pony show and why they like Freeze so much. They loved the outward image of Freeze being a fine Christian, family-loving man, but didn't care that he was banging your mom behind your back as long as he was providing some trashy 5-star recruit with prostitutes and whatever else he wanted.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Precisely. That's all I'm saying.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

**** you. (17 usage omitted for emphasis)

come on man. The guy came over here and was as graceful as humanly possible. He basically just threw his own team under the bus. He saw what everyone else saw. Let’s not just be ******** to be an *******. Nothing in his post warranted that response.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Two lefts don't make a right but after the way some of their fans behaved leading up to the game and the way they're players intentionally were trying to take out our guys, I wouldn't object one bit to something along these lines.

What a disgrace those sorry heathens are.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Some thoughts.

Win feels hollow, NCAA and bowl ban and all that, but I especially hate winning when Fitz got hurt as he did. He was probably worth 40 points in this game, given that he would've protected the ball better and y'all would've been able to melt the clock.

I don't think the injury was intentional, perhaps it was; certainly the defender went low. I'm not sure where else you want him to go; It makes no sense to try and tackle him high, and it happened too fast to be a calculated shot by my eyes, but perhaps I am more biased than those who disagree with that assessment.

Just a bizarre game overall, one only football could produce. So many bounces went our way and we are still the dumbest, most undisciplined team I saw this year. This game cemented my belief that Luke and the rest of this staff need to be fired immediately. 100+ penalty yards, several PFs at crucial moments, retarded lack of preparation for the first onside kick, bailed out by a freak injury.

Fitz is a great player, hope he returns at 100% next year. We won this game basically by default when he went down because he's a huge mismatch and his presence negates the mismatches in our favor. At 100% y'all beat us by 30, without a doubt your team was better.

It was intentional. As were several other cheap shot. Just go away.

 

[dawgoneyall]

I should've emphasized more in the OP how embarrassing the lack of discipline is. I've talked to several relatives (OM fans) today who say, "Well, State provoked us by ..." to which I reply that doesn't 17'ing matter, I've never allowed myself to be so mad at someone that I do something like Metcalf did, and I would hope if I was and did I wouldn't be in for another down.

Luke has to go, everyone walking around on that sideline without disciplining our team last night has to go. The most fitting thing that could have happened last night would have been for State to win.

OK, that's it. See y'all in a few weeks minus FF and OT threads.

Doesn't matter????!!!!.... so you agree intentionally hurting a player and the other craps was provoked by State. GTH. soon.

 

[JungRebel]

You don't read well.

 

[dawgoneyall]

You don't read well.

Actually read very well..you said it doesn't matter....how the hell is that to be taken. Basically, you said the cheap artist were provoked. Enough of you....

 

[dawgoneyall]

come on man. The guy came over here and was as graceful as humanly possible. He basically just threw his own team under the bus. He saw what everyone else saw. Let’s not just be ******** to be an *******. Nothing in his post warranted that response.

You are joking of course.

He basically agreed with his classy friends and relatives that the player for uofm were provoked.

 

[Chesusdog]

Thanks for sharing. You're the first and only rebel fan I've ever encountered that isn't a complete and total piece of ****.

 

[JungRebel]

I said that what someone does to you is no excuse for that behavior. What is 'genuinely provocative'—it SHOULD go without saying—is entirely subjective, and therefore does not matter and is not an excuse. If you couldn't infer from the rest of these comments that I don't consider the 'provocation' excuse legitimate then I don't know that reading this explanation will help you either, but there it is.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

I said that what someone does to you is no excuse for that behavior. What is 'genuinely provocative'—it SHOULD go without saying—is entirely subjective, and therefore does not matter and is not an excuse. If you couldn't infer from the rest of these comments that I don't consider the 'provocation' excuse legitimate then I don't know that reading this explanation will help you either, but there it is.

I don't imagine that a MSU poster would be received very warmly on Spirit or Nafoom, if we had taken out Shamoo, AJ, and DK by breaking their ankles in the first quarter, then you'd committed 5 turnovers with your backup QB, and we beat you by 3. Then one of us got on your boards and started humble bragging and slinging around "it wasn't intentional...but". . Told you yesterday that it was too soon for you to be on here saying that crap, and you seemed to understand at the time.

 

[Drson]

For those of you that do not think #9 Speaks was trying to hurt our QBs...check out the play where he was chasing KT from behind as he as being tackled by other TSUN players...he intentionally dove at KT’s right leg and fortunately missed or we would have two injured QBs. You can easily find the clip on Twitter.....
TSUN is one of the most liberal, left winged educational institutions in America....where you can “do what makes you feel good” and not worry about the consequences....
this starts from the president, AD and filters down to the coaches....as evidenced by Freeze’s antics....and the derogatory displays by TSUN players on the field Thursday night...which was allowed and condoned by current TSUN coaches including Fatt Luke......If I were a fan or graduate I would be ashamed of my school......I would not allow any of my children to attend TSUN even if it was free tuition.....
TSUN gets what it deserves when the NCAA comes calling....I cannot wait until signing day to see the TSUN fans talk about how their 2 stars are really 5 stars that others could not see their potential...
As for next year in Oxfart....get ready TSUN....MSU will score at will on your 2 stars and there will be no “knees’....