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Why do we always come out so damn slow and then turn it on in the second half? why dont we play with that intensity in the first half?
its basically the same **** from last year.
its basically the same **** from last year.
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I really don't understand our Basketball Program. Granted, I live away from Starkville and just get most of my info online, but with the way Howland recruits, I expect a better product on the court. I miss Richard Williams.
When we think back about RW, we tend to remember 3 good years and forget about 12 years of crap.
I want to see some toughness that's why I would be starting: Peters, Eli, Q, Datcher and Ado. And I would be bringing Nick in first off the bench. X would come off the bench. Herard would rest Ado. Some guys aren't going to be happy, but we can't play 11 guys.
Meo Stansbury always looked to me like she was the kind of lady who could conjure up a good curse. Whatever hex she put on this program is lingering.
People also tend to forget that RW took over a steaming pile of crap that had been at the bottom for years, and had been playing the 4 corners game, just to not get beat by 30.
Don't get
me wrong, I liked RW. I grew up going to games when he was our coach, but the team Stans inherited was under .500 the two seasons prior.
RW made a really good two year run, in 94/95 & 95/96 where he had the fortune of a few really great college kids, but that wasnt the norm.
me wrong, I liked RW. I grew up going to games when he was our coach, but the team Stans inherited was under .500 the two seasons prior.
RW made a really good two year run, in 94/95 & 95/96 where he had the fortune of a few really great college kids, but that wasnt the norm.
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We were 15-15 and 4-12 RW’s last year. The one who, IMO, inherited the best situation was Rick Ray. Not that it was great, but he had a good set of freshmen if he could have added anything to them.
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What I can't understand is why players that have been playing the game for most of their lives, can't shoot from the perimeter. That is really baffling to me.
I don't remember seeing players struggle so much with this in the old days.
I don't remember seeing players struggle so much with this in the old days.
I think it's like Texas football: Just horrible coaching (Stans and Ray) for too many years. The mindset of grinding and playing tough and intense was lost almost 10 years ago. The "big 3" we had with Gavin Ware and the other two were busts and had no leadership. We always have freshmen and soph's trying to be leaders and they have no one to look at for leadership.
You would think we would have it by now. Maybe we have prima donas?
I didn't watch any of the game, but Howland has won every where he's been and he's got talent and great facilities. I think it's a mindset.
We are M State....in basketball...
You would think we would have it by now. Maybe we have prima donas?
I didn't watch any of the game, but Howland has won every where he's been and he's got talent and great facilities. I think it's a mindset.
We are M State....in basketball...
I am as frustrated as anyone with the basketball program but can we at least lose one REAL game before we all go total meltdown? No way Howland can keep recruiting at the current level and the program not get better. Just don't think it is possible. Not saying we are headed towards a high seed in the NCAA tournament but we keep reeling in top flight players then we should start seeing the NCAA tournament with regularity. I'm not letting an exhibition loss to Nebraska make me think different for the time being. We still are mostly sophomores and need one more top tier class behind these guys to get us where we really need to be.
I'll give him a few games this year, but it seems Howland might get stuck with the "overrated" label. All of our other coaches are successful or have had success, but him. I want to start seeing this great coaching that people have been talking about.
I will admit that I have lost some confidence in Howland's actual coaching ability. Having said that though this is really the first year that MSU fans should have any real expectations from the team. The first year he was here he had a bunch of seniors that weren't that great and had never been in his system so that was really just a lost year. Last year we had so many young, new players (plus Q being injured) that I don't see how we can ding Howland too bad for us not being very good. We should see some real improvement this year or we have every right to criticize. That being said though, we have never had a basketball coach in our history recruiting at the level Howland currently is recruiting at. Calipari has shown that in basketball especially, no matter what kind of coach you are, talent usually wins out more times than not in the end.
I know that some of you guys can’t stand Stansbury for some reason unbeknownst to me, but please do not lump him and Ray together in the same category. Many of Stansbury’s teams were the toughest rebounding teams in the league over the years, and he won 21 games during the season that was ultimately his last. We’ve averaged 13 wins since then...
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