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Buy/Sell - 247-GP merger

gasdawg

gasdawg

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Buy/Sell the merger of the premium sites?

Some VERY different personalities being forced to work with each other. There may be more information and coverage but the two sites tend to cater to different types of fans. GP is the fluff always positive sunshine pumping junk that led to the creation of this 17'n site. 247 is more chill where folks can voice their opinions even if it's negative and allows for some decent debates.

I've had memberships to both and personally like 247 much better. GP may have more subscribers but 247 has a much more active board. Personally, I think that Steve is the only reason half the GP subscribers have stuck around. Without Steve GP would have died a long time ago.

The thread on 247 about the merged site being called genes page is pure gold. DS/HD6 you may have an influx of new members from 247 if Gene still does Gene things.

What does the pack think?
 
TheStateUofMS

TheStateUofMS

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I'm a member on GP for recruiting info from Steve. Other guys that cover TX, FL and other areas routinely drop analysis on our out of state commits and stories as well. I don't really look at as much other content other than the coach and player interviews.
 
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DawgAmerica

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I am a member of both sites, GP has had an issue over the past several years of an aging demographic. The younger fans migrated here & ED and 24/7. GP has been helped by Robertson’s pursuit of the scandal up north and subsequent boom in the popularity of The Boneyard on BSR. Side note: I love the irony of his working with Hadad leading to bringing back people GP. But I am in my 40s and feel like a kid compared to most GP posters and like a grandad on the other sites.

I don’t know the personalities and don’t know who will be working for whom, according to 24/7, that will be site and the GP team and subscribers will be the ones who will have to make the adjustment. If they can work out the personalities and site transition, it can be very successful by drawing on the combined, broader demographic. I don’t think GP is as ‘sunshine-pumping’ as it used to be but there are still many posters who overreact to anything negative, the admins will need to make sure that doesn’t go overboard and drive the 24/7 people away.
 
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FreeDawg

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Total Sell for a few reasons. Number 1 is Gene. He’ll make life Living hell for everyone involved because he’s crazy. Another reason is the ego. I just don’t think the scout guys can get along with anyone. This goes back to Steve calling out Paul in the BDJ days for no reason (Its a Coke/Pepsi world...). Another huge factor is content. I joined scout for 6ish months last year before cancelling because it was highway robbery. Gene writes zero. Dave writes a 15,000 word mini novel every now and then that’s totally unreadable and Steve writes every other day. Those old GP guys have no clue how little content they get vs Paul & Robbie who pump out stuff everyday.

I feel really bad for Paul and Robbie too. They built a brand that was totally different, better, more reasonable, and more blananced but are now being forced to work with the circus. And the name GenesPage is sticking? Give me a break. An MSU fan site named after a very peculiar dude? Wtf is that. It’s embarrasing as ****. Gene has been saying he’s retire for 5 years while being basically retired. I wish he’d hurry up and go away.
 
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Willow Grove Dawg

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SELL - I have been a member of GP since the late 90's. I have never been a fan of Gene or the way he managed the site. I really enjoy reading both the articles by David & Steve. David is definitely more of a homer & his style of writing probably fits better in the old DawgsBite newspaper format. My opinion is that David is almost an MSU institution, dude has been writing about MSU sports since the late 70's.The quality of the content on the 24/7 is higher, but historically the scout site just has a lot more members. I really like Paul & Robbie, but I think Steve/David with less Gene will be the survivors. The tell-tale sign to me though is that the message board volume on the new scout/Gene site is almost non-existent.
 
AlCoDog

AlCoDog

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Why doesn’t Gene just go out on his own since he is so amazing (in his own mind)?
 
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MSUDawgFan86

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Gene’s Page sucks ***. GP stands for Geriatric Page. Recruiting was ok. Steve was wrong a lot in the past and when you ***** about the coaches doing a piss poor job in recruiting they don’t like it. They like to control the posts and the narrative to sunshine pump or you should be kept quiet. Smh I had to bounce to here and 247. The term “shitbirds” keeps from the other site. Any message board that thinks that is remotely a funny cut down is a place I dont want to be.
 
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Bulldogg31

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Spot on. I'm a member of all the sites, and your assessment is mine as well.

One of the sites seems to exist for the ego stroke of its creator. One is full of old guys who still can't spell Mullen after 10 years. One is great but has so few members there's not much engagement by posters. The other is SPS which is basically just a bunch of ******** that make me laugh and don't take themselves or anything else too seriously. Except politics. And religion. And marinades. And yardbugs.
 
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BiscuitEater

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gasdawg said:
Buy/Sell the merger of the premium sites?
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Buy. Gene does a good job covering baseball, Steve has good FB recruiting info. David has 'historical' perspective for us more mature readers. I quit GP because I couldn't post from work.

Both Paul & Robbie provide good info. I liked the 'single' board approach rather than the 4 or 5 different member subject board at GP. Thought the 'crystal ball' thing was kind of hokey at first but it does give you more of an unbiased look at where 'outsiders' think a player is leaning. I like knowing 'who' State has offered, commits, etc.

I live out of state, refuse to even look at Clarion Ledger website. 90%+ of my MSU info comes from SPS & 24/7. I even read/post on Rant & ED.

So, view it as a positive and am looking forward to the merger.
 
Maroon Eagle

Maroon Eagle

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My thoughts:

1. I think the combined Scout/247 will be good. More folks involved who know how to do things is usually a good thing.

2. Calling it Gene’s Page is a smart move - like it or not the name has marquee value in MSU fandom.

3. Board Culture - The mixing of board cultures may be the most headache inducing part of the merger. If it wouldn’t create duplication, I’m sure the powers that be would have created separate boards within the same umbrella. I would not be surprised if people decided to post more on other boards which brings me to...

4. Wild Thought About The Future - I would not be surprised if the combined forums are spun off - or merge or become associated with another entity. I’m thinking the latter is much more likely as Scout/247 want their subscribers. But they don’t really want the headaches so why not acquire some administrative help from folks who are at least experienced in this regard.
 
bulldognation

bulldognation

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Can SPS stage a hostile take over of the Clarion Ledger? Or is DS even interested in expanding his media empire, thus enabling him to acquire TWO curved-screen 4k TVs.
 
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00dog

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"GP may have more subscribers but 247 has a much more active board..."

GP can claim a large number of members because it's like the Hotel California. Several years ago I attempted to cancel my membership on gp. I was told that I could not cancel the membership, that I could just stop visiting the site. I would expect them to have a large membership if they are still claiming everyone who ever joined.
 
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FreeDawg

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Naming it after a jort fro dude who is a weirdo adds marquee value to MSU athletics? What planet do you live on? MSU brought value and a career to Gene, not the other way around.
 
Maroon Eagle

Maroon Eagle

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It has a marquee value in MSU Fandom - not MSU athletics. About the only other old school outfit that could have had a similar claim was the old Dawgnews email list.
 
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FreeDawg

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Maroon Eagle said:
It has a marquee value in MSU Fandom - not MSU athletics. About the only other old school outfit that could have had a similar claim was the old Dawgnews email list.
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That makes sense. That said, I don’t think my age group and down cares about Gene. A negative connotation if anything. Steve kind of resurrected their profile via the NCAA stuff.
 
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engie

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May 29, 2011
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I'd say it has marquee value in MSU fandom about the same way Cracker Jacks has marquee value in MLB fandom...

Certainly not the normal appeal of new potential customers as something actually pertaining to Mississippi State in the name, not unlike bulldawgs247.
 
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Moe Cabelle

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That's pretty much me. I started on GP back in the late 90's. I was definately anti-six pack at the first great schism.

Over time, I too felt the age gap and let's just say the sophomorish humor (and NSFW pics) over here was much more my in line with my style.

Ultimately, I game to understand that some people just view things in a hugely negative way that is frankly unbearable at times. I orginally felt, like many, that that was a form of either a) airing your dirty laundry or b) wolves in sheep clothing. But that's just how some of you MFers are, and that MSU isn't alone with those in our fan base.

At some point I just pulled away from the public board and started interacting more over here. I guess I was so busy raising kids, I didn't see the schism that created Elite dawgs.

Never signed up for any other site.,,, though I was an original with the IBBC but never attended ****.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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It sucks that arrogant POS has to have his damn name in the title of the site. Embarrassing. Why not change it to something cool and actually related to MSU. I will cancel subscription ASAP.
 
dawgstudent

dawgstudent

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It's funny to me that people care that much about the name of the site. There are some people steaming mad.
 
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sandwolf.sixpack

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dawgstudent said:
It's funny to me that people care that much about the name of the site. There are some people steaming mad.
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Haha, no kidding. The only thing I can figure is that people hate Gene so much that they don't want him to have the satisfaction of getting to keep the name of his site.
 
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Todd4State

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And I bet Gene banned a lot of those people over 10 years ago and they still hold a grudge against him.
 
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