Rick Ray's comment
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I agree totally with Rick Ray. Always liked the guy but he just wasn't a very good coach, at least at our level. The writer certainly was extending Ray's statement a lot ... I don't think he implied a thing about goings on at MSU. If Rick comes out later and says he was pressured to play players at MSU, so be it.
Here's the problem with Ray's statement. It implies that if you aren't doing well, you aren't cheating. Well, that's not necessarily the case. It's perfectly plausible that you can be just as bad at cheating as you are at coaching basketball. He seemed way too eager to jump into this.
There is no way he cheated at MSU. He is a terrible recruiter. Other than Ready and Q, his signing classes were laughable.
I do like Ray as a person and I think he can be a solid assistant coach at a major program some day. But he never had any business being an SEC head coach.
I do like Ray as a person and I think he can be a solid assistant coach at a major program some day. But he never had any business being an SEC head coach.
I don't think it's a stretch at all. He was unceremoniously shown the door here. I know he sucked and needed to go but in his mind, I'm sure it wasn't justified. I'm sure he has a chip on his shoulder about MSU and his time here. That's probably normal for anyone who has ever been fired.
Yep. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that Ray wanted that implication made without actually being quoted on it as well, a wish that a reporter getting a juicy story like this would easily comply with.
Given the context of the article, I don't know how you write it without mentioning his tenure at MSU.
There doesn't need to be any statement made. You're just hoping he isn't talking about MSU. He's making comments based on his experience & assuming all of college basketball is this way. Come on man, the lines are there to read between.
Reads to me like "I am butt destroyed because MSU fired me to bring in Ben Howland and I amazingly am unable to see that I am nowhere close to the same caliber coach that Howland is so I am going to continue to whine about being allowed to steal $3 million dollars from MSU"
At no point do I think Rick Ray or the writer implied anything abt MSU.
If that were either of their intentions, they did a really bad job of communicating it.
If that were either of their intentions, they did a really bad job of communicating it.
While do a good job of monitoring our programs, incidents like Will Redmond still happen. Here we have a shoe company who is willing to funnel money to players just to prop up their sponsored programs, and that is way easier to hide than wealthy boosters stepping in. With federal indictments coming down, its worth a second look.
Rick Ray has been a head coach at two schools over the past 5 years .. and has NEVER had a single winning season. The writer 'implies' it's because he doesn't cheat when in fact .. He just isn't a good coach.
He has also not had hardly any good players to speak of in any of those 5 years. So, it's really hard to know how good of a true coach he is. All we know is he either can't recruit or won't recruit the way you have to in college basketball.
It was a joke. Like hall of fame Rick Pitino is gonna be an assistant here. If he goes anywhere I would assume he'd team up with his son at Minnesota or go NBA. Maybe the Nets or Knicks will go after him. He is dirty as hell but he can coach. Calipari has forced him to be dirty as **** at L'Ville.
Rick Ray is a **** coach and he booted six dudes off his team the first year at SEMO just cause. No reason other than he wanted to free up a bunch of room. He shouldn't be fronting and acting like he can take some high moral ground. Pretty ****** to kick 6 guys off your team like you're about to bring in UNLV's runnin rebels but you actually have nobody lined up to replace them with.
the two stupidest quotes by a coach .
1. Slytanic said " I knew before the game Maine was the better Team"
2-RR said " just play defense the offense will take care of itself".
He booted those guys because he liked the feeling of having to scrape together a team at his previous stop.
I didn't say he was a definitely a good coach. Just that he's never had good players. Whether it was his own fault or not, your post only further proves that point. Croom was a ****** coach because he had good players and still couldn't win. We never even got to the "good players" position with Ray to where his actual floor coaching ability could even be judged.
He's mainly talking
about the ridiculousness involved in the Jackson metro area AAU programs.
The coaches of some of the top teams in the area (and therefore, nation), are not the most savory of characters.
Howland has since disassociated himself with some of them.
The little I've read from a story or two over the last day, about players getting "shoe deals," so to speak, are old news for this crew.
about the ridiculousness involved in the Jackson metro area AAU programs.
The coaches of some of the top teams in the area (and therefore, nation), are not the most savory of characters.
Howland has since disassociated himself with some of them.
The little I've read from a story or two over the last day, about players getting "shoe deals," so to speak, are old news for this crew.
All the writer of the article is saying is that you can logically assume Ray would tell you that he didn't participate in any nefarious activities while he was at MSU. That's ALL the writer said, nothing more. It's a logical statement, especially since Ray recruited poorly and didn't win. They're not implying anything about the current staff. If you think otherwise, that's called "paranoia."
In four of the five years he was coach, his team defense was worse than in Stansbury's last year. Let that sink in.
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