consider a casual switch to fox sports. the show with shannon sharpe and skip bayless is actually pretty entertaining and for those that like cowherd, here is there too. their content and polish seem to be improving and so far, they havent tried to force politics, but do address the sports related things. i hope this political push by espn is their undoing of a stranglehold on market share.
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I abandoned ESPN awhile ago and can say that FS1 really has it together. Undisputed with Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless, The Herd with Cowherd, and Speak for Yourself with Jason Whitlock and Cowherd are all entertaining shows.
I watch ESPN only for games. Everything else on there is virtue signaling BS.
Did I hear that Linda Cohn was suspended for saying they got too political? And Jenelle Hill got no punishment for calling trump a white supremacist?
Honestly the only sports programming I watch now are games, 30 for 30, and SEC Now on Saturdays after all the games. I used to watch ESPN around the clock. With twitter and all of the sports apps I have all of the highlights/analysis that I need.
If you live in the Jackson Metro area and don't want to listen to ESPN try out 106.3. Its FOX Sports Radio most of the day, I think they throw in some CBS Sports at night. Its pretty good. It's all national stuff, no local. Nice change of pace.
THIS^^
People keep saying ESPN is getting bad because they're starting to get political, but that just isn't true.
ESPN started sucking the day they quit just doing Sportscenter and showing live games/replays and reruns of Worlds Strongest Man/American Gladiators (which was in the late 90s).
When they switched to this format of shows where two (or more) idiots start yelling and arguing back and forth, it completely ended for me (circa 2000).
Just look at their content. It's what I've stated in the above sentence all day long.
Just show me live games, highlights, and the occasional American Gladiators rerun!
People keep saying ESPN is getting bad because they're starting to get political, but that just isn't true.
ESPN started sucking the day they quit just doing Sportscenter and showing live games/replays and reruns of Worlds Strongest Man/American Gladiators (which was in the late 90s).
When they switched to this format of shows where two (or more) idiots start yelling and arguing back and forth, it completely ended for me (circa 2000).
Just look at their content. It's what I've stated in the above sentence all day long.
Just show me live games, highlights, and the occasional American Gladiators rerun!
Two things stand out to me:
1) Jenelle is not too bright but is parroting liberal party lines and that lines up with ESPN's philosophy so no foul. ESPN should reevaluate putting someone who doesn't seem to put much thought behind her words in front of a camera but they probably won't.
2) If Linda Cohn actually said something negative about how her employer handled political things, that is basically her talking in a very public forum, negatively about her employer. That typically doesn't go too well for people, regardless of political slant.
The only things ESPN is good for are games, College Gameday, and 30 for 30. Period. Even SportsCenter isn't any good any more.
Slightly OT: Does anyone else not like "Herbie"?
He's a good dude and all, but my God his opinions are dull and predictable. Listening to him is like watching the grass grow. I'm not looking for hot takery, but he's the first guy to "side with the officials" on any hard hit. Outside of picking games, he never seems to have his own opinion. He always sides with norm.
He's a good dude and all, but my God his opinions are dull and predictable. Listening to him is like watching the grass grow. I'm not looking for hot takery, but he's the first guy to "side with the officials" on any hard hit. Outside of picking games, he never seems to have his own opinion. He always sides with norm.
Almost the same for me. From April to November, I watch almost exclusively the MLB Network other than live events or 30 for 30. The MLB hosts and analysts are almost all great with a couple of exceptions that are just personal choice. They certainly don't bring much of an agenda into things, save for Bob Costas preaching about whatever during game broadcasts from time to time.
They are about to figure out if they don't know already that more conservatives and moderates watch sports and care about sports than the far left wingers.
lets make it a 1:1 comparison. schilling got his walking papers from espn for tweeting essentially male restrooms are for people born as men (with penis) and anyone that thinks otherwise are labeled bigots. and before the "he was warned" crowd gets here, i can assure you there is a history of incendiary comments from hill.
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This is what I don't get. ESPN could have kept the vast majority of their huge, diverse,PROFITABLE viewing base in tact by interjecting subliminal political messages from time to time but not going bat **** crazy. Instead they chose to become the CNN of sports, going completely overboard and alienating half their viewers. For lack of a more articulate way of asking WTF were they thinking ?
The sports networks tried to replicate the news networks with all the talk shows and have failed miserably. Stuff like PTI and Around the Horn were ok enough and probably all that ever needed to happen. You can only yell back and forth so much about sports. News networks get to pick whatever topic they want, scream about it, move on and pick another one.
ESPN should have jumped all over Ninja Warrior and replayed the crap out of it all afternoon long. Mix in some foreign league basketball, MLS, motorcross, whatever. Fill the dead space with anything besides two people arguing and inviting on more people to argue. Hit a quick back and forth segment on Sports Center and get out.
They should PR the crap out of something the president does every year and that's it. Could have had Bush on opening day since he was a huge baseball fan. Quick interview, make some predictions, see ya. Obama always filled out his bracket's with Katz, thanks for the chat, see ya. Guess Trump could join 'em before the US Open or something, make a pick, see ya.
ESPN should have jumped all over Ninja Warrior and replayed the crap out of it all afternoon long. Mix in some foreign league basketball, MLS, motorcross, whatever. Fill the dead space with anything besides two people arguing and inviting on more people to argue. Hit a quick back and forth segment on Sports Center and get out.
They should PR the crap out of something the president does every year and that's it. Could have had Bush on opening day since he was a huge baseball fan. Quick interview, make some predictions, see ya. Obama always filled out his bracket's with Katz, thanks for the chat, see ya. Guess Trump could join 'em before the US Open or something, make a pick, see ya.
But if you run off every viewer who is not like minded with your ideology...you accomplish neither.
i don't know anyone that watches espn for highlights anymore. You can pick and choose what highlights you want to watch because you know internet and stuff. Cowherd is facking terrible. I do really like Shannon Sharpe though, but I really don't watch any of that stuff much. I could really care less because i'm working in my evil lab socially engineering people to do work for me.
Disney will bail ESPN out. I always wonder how MSNBC stays on the air. I think George Soros must be floating them money.
You're right about what first started their decline, but that was part of a huge expansion where they went from just ESPN to ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN Classic, etc. It wasn't that they abandoned core programming; part of what is doing them in is how much they spent to lock up a ton of live programming.
Maybe adding a bunch of non-live sports shows was a bad decision, but what is inexplicable is that with their audience, they decided to fill their non-live sports programming slots pushing mainly SJW type issues and also unnecessarily inserting politics into live sports.
Schilling was only fired after ignoring numerous warnings. Hill has now receieved warning #1. Not comparable yet, but if she ignores warnings and keeps doing stuff like this, we'll see if ESPN treats left and right equally.
Right; the corollary of my 1). If you mention any conservative views on there, you're screwed. BTW, how did standing up for scientific facts, like DNA and such, become bad, and an indication of conservatism? I thought conservatives were Bible thumping flat-earthers who were against science...
Schilling is a bit of a kook anyhow, though.
There is a difference
between standing up for science and being hardline anti trans rights. Nobody supporting trans rights is going to tell you that because someone identifies as a different gender, that their biological sex matches that. This isn't a science discussion, that was never up for debate. This is a sociological one.
There's anti-science people on both sides of the aisle:
Anti-vaxxers
Young earth creationists
Chem trails
Climate change deniers
Alternate medicine
I'm not left or right wing, I'll argue with anybody that's on the side of ignorance.
between standing up for science and being hardline anti trans rights. Nobody supporting trans rights is going to tell you that because someone identifies as a different gender, that their biological sex matches that. This isn't a science discussion, that was never up for debate. This is a sociological one.
There's anti-science people on both sides of the aisle:
Anti-vaxxers
Young earth creationists
Chem trails
Climate change deniers
Alternate medicine
I'm not left or right wing, I'll argue with anybody that's on the side of ignorance.
Have kids these days even heard of "World's Strongest Man"? ESPN was better when they filled their dead time with reruns of that. A bunch of roided up eastern Europeans dudes pulling buses with ropes is far more entertaining than the talking heads.
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