Buddy Stephens is such a dick

Hail State

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Van Pelt just interviewed him on Sportscenter (they beat Jones Co tonight) and Van Pelt leads off with something like "Coach, I'm gonna ask you to use tepid language tonight" laughing as he said it. Fat **** Cat starts stuttering and saying "well that's a low blow". Should've asked him how he allowed Rivers to be ineligible.
 

Snog

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He said that because he's a dumbass and doesn't understand the meaning of the word "tepid" or the context of the question.

FACT
 

mstateglfr

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He sure seems like a dick, but that example doesnt really make him seem like a dick.

SVP asked him to use appropriate language since, you know, Buddy is known to curse a ton. Buddy then responded that its a low blow as in a cheap shot.
Buddy may have taken a joke to heart, but how is that an example of him being a dick?
 

maroonmania

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He sure seems like a dick, but that example doesnt really make him seem like a dick.

SVP asked him to use appropriate language since, you know, Buddy is known to curse a ton. Buddy then responded that its a low blow as in a cheap shot.
Buddy may have taken a joke to heart, but how is that an example of him being a dick?

Guess SVP hasn't had a chance to watch Last Chance U Season 2 where Buddy cleaned up his act and just became boring.
 

thekimmer

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I thought he was a different part of the anatomy...

Van Pelt just interviewed him on Sportscenter (they beat Jones Co tonight) and Van Pelt leads off with something like "Coach, I'm gonna ask you to use tepid language tonight" laughing as he said it. Fat **** Cat starts stuttering and saying "well that's a low blow". Should've asked him how he allowed Rivers to be ineligible.

One in the same neighborhood but discharges solid waste instead of liquid.

Anyway, best response would have been to simply laugh it off but sounds like he might have gotten caught off guard.
 
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engie

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Yeah I'm pretty sure MSU's relationship with Buddy is over until one of he/Mullen is gone. Seems it spiraled quite a bit over the past couple of months. To the point Buddy was publicly discouraging his players from even looking at MSU(not sure exactly what triggered that to happen this time) -- and as a result Mullen basically had security escort him out of Big Dawg Camp. At least that is the rumor. Seems much of the pro-MSU surrounding cast is disappearing as well.

After watching Last Chance U, I'm even more unsure about what makes Buddy special. And lets not kid ourselves -- the results say he is special. People can say it's the recruiting/transfer thing, but 3/4 of the JUCOs in the country are almost certainly trying to do the same thing. What makes him such a successful recruiter? Why is he successful there where others fail? Maybe that's the failure of LCU as a series to me personally -- I watched looking for the nuts and bolts of what makes that machine tick a little bit differently than everybody else. And I did not find it. I personally saw a little more of "it" in Marcus Wood than Buddy.
 

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After watching Last Chance U, I'm even more unsure about what makes Buddy special. And lets not kid ourselves -- the results say he is special. People can say it's the recruiting/transfer thing, but 3/4 of the JUCOs in the country are almost certainly trying to do the same thing. What makes him such a successful recruiter? Why is he successful there where others fail? Maybe that's the failure of LCU as a series to me personally -- I watched looking for the nuts and bolts of what makes that machine tick a little bit differently than everybody else. And I did not find it. I personally saw a little more of "it" in Marcus Wood than Buddy.

I agree with this and came away with the same question. It doesn't seem like he's an especially good X and O coach, certainly not if adjustments are needed in game. He's not great at reading or understanding people or tailoring his coaching style to what a specific athlete (or assistant coach) needs.
 

thekimmer

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Yeah I'm pretty sure MSU's relationship with Buddy is over until one of he/Mullen is gone. Seems it spiraled quite a bit over the past couple of months. To the point Buddy was publicly discouraging his players from even looking at MSU(not sure exactly what triggered that to happen this time) -- and as a result Mullen basically had security escort him out of Big Dawg Camp. At least that is the rumor. Seems much of the pro-MSU surrounding cast is disappearing as well.

After watching Last Chance U, I'm even more unsure about what makes Buddy special. And lets not kid ourselves -- the results say he is special. People can say it's the recruiting/transfer thing, but 3/4 of the JUCOs in the country are almost certainly trying to do the same thing. What makes him such a successful recruiter? Why is he successful there where others fail? Maybe that's the failure of LCU as a series to me personally -- I watched looking for the nuts and bolts of what makes that machine tick a little bit differently than everybody else. And I did not find it. I personally saw a little more of "it" in Marcus Wood than Buddy.

Same here. What I saw from LCU was not a coach loaded with ability but an individual loaded with liabilities. The person I saw portrayed was a volatile, cruel, demeaning, and vulgar hot-head who's go-to response to even the least little issue was to viciously lash out even to people who have served him competently and faithfully for years. In a nut shell, about the most distasteful and unlikable person imaginable. I kept thinking I gotta be missing something because there is no way on this green earth that this person can be the Svengali of JUCO football.
 

Confucius Say

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He keeps having players come out ineligible after going in eligible and that well of talent will dry up fast.
 

maroonmania

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Yeah I'm pretty sure MSU's relationship with Buddy is over until one of he/Mullen is gone. Seems it spiraled quite a bit over the past couple of months. To the point Buddy was publicly discouraging his players from even looking at MSU(not sure exactly what triggered that to happen this time) -- and as a result Mullen basically had security escort him out of Big Dawg Camp. At least that is the rumor. Seems much of the pro-MSU surrounding cast is disappearing as well.

After watching Last Chance U, I'm even more unsure about what makes Buddy special. And lets not kid ourselves -- the results say he is special. People can say it's the recruiting/transfer thing, but 3/4 of the JUCOs in the country are almost certainly trying to do the same thing. What makes him such a successful recruiter? Why is he successful there where others fail? Maybe that's the failure of LCU as a series to me personally -- I watched looking for the nuts and bolts of what makes that machine tick a little bit differently than everybody else. And I did not find it. I personally saw a little more of "it" in Marcus Wood than Buddy.

Not a good move on Mullen's part unless Buddy did something really out of line. You don't want to just totally cut off your ability to get players out of the best JUCO program in the State that is literally just right down the road.
 

Confucius Say

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Not a good move on Mullen's part unless Buddy did something really out of line. You don't want to just totally cut off your ability to get players out of the best JUCO program in the State that is literally just right down the road.

Seems like we are using co Lin and coach Glenn Davis (RB coach under sherrill) as our juco program
 

maroonmania

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Seems like we are using co Lin and coach Glenn Davis (RB coach under sherrill) as our juco program

That is where we PLACE players, and I can certainly see why we would not want to send guys we want back to EMCC. But regardless of that do we want to essentially eliminate any chance to sign guys whose recruitment is open like Brian Cole and Chauncey Rivers?
 

engie

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Not a good move on Mullen's part unless Buddy did something really out of line. You don't want to just totally cut off your ability to get players out of the best JUCO program in the State that is literally just right down the road.

You think Mullen should let Buddy recruit our camp -- while actively attempting to make sure none of said players go back to MSU?
 

maroonmania

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You think Mullen should let Buddy recruit our camp -- while actively attempting to make sure none of said players go back to MSU?

If he is actively working to make sure his players don't go to MSU then that is an issue that should be worked by our staff because that makes no sense for Stephens to do that unless he is some dyed in the wool Ole Miss backer. I mean we just got 3 guys from EMCC. As far as recruiting our camp, I don't know all of the ins and outs of that but no kid is going to EMCC that has an offer and is eligible to get into MSU or any other SEC school. I assume maybe you mean he is trying to get guys to EMCC that we are trying to place somewhere else?
 

Msubulldogfan1

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It'd be nice to have emcc in our corner, but it won't make or break anything. As long as it's a specific issue with buddy himself.
 

engie

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Yeah you are missing the point altogether on that one...

We offer a very small percentage of the kids that come to Big Dawg Camp and lots of other schools and coaches that aren't our direct competitors use our camps to evaluate and recruit from. Where else will they be able to go and see that much quality talent in one place for guys that fit their programs? BDC is arguably the biggest recruiting day of the year for MS Jucos inside the borders of MS.
 
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