These MSU things are dominating my thoughts.

Miketice

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1. Ole miss. Could there be a bigger cluster? They are in the middle of a multi-year investigation and their head coach gets busted for hiring hookers! LOLOLOL. Hookers!

2. I bet $400 bucks that MSU would win over 4 1/2 games this year ( I bought 1 game down from 5 1/2 ). The thought that crosses my mind? WTF am I missing?

3. Is Chauncey Rivers qualified or not? This **** concerns me.

4. Are our receivers going to be capable/sufficient (Other than D.G)? I have not one clue.

5. I'm glad that Peter Sirmon is gone. Really glad. It may not have been his fault (LOL yeah right),but I'm still glad "he gone".

6. Pretty sure I'm going to put up the bones (pun definitely intended) for the Rose bowl book. Partly because I'm interested. Mostly because I like him.

7. I'm pretty sure Leo Lewis is in my top 10 favorites. Who are my top ten you ask (I know you didn't ask)? Dak,some more dudes,and Leo.

8. I'm also a cowboy fan now. It sure would be nice if Dak played for the Saints.

9. I liked the eclipse. It was a fun distraction from the everyday ********.

10. Hail State!
 

CochiseCowbell

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Blue Moon before noon on a Tuesday? I like it.
I agree with all points except #6. Already ordered my two copies (for myself & as a gift for Cochise Sr.).
 

horshack.sixpack

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#1 How does Ole Miss not even attempt to control the actions of their fan site guys? Constantly fighting with and insulting national media guys is just plain stupid, regardless of what perceived injustice has been perpetrated against their fine university and that bunch of oak trees; such beauty the world has never beheld. Don Quixote would be proud...the fact that nobody in the UM sphere of influence, including the instigators can see the idiocy and stop it says something about their real mindset/mentality.

Vitter and Bjork should be fired immediately. Bjork for doing/allowing what he did and Vitter for not cleaning house early on in this one and allowing Bjork to hang around. Talk about alumni controlled university. It's incredible and gives a lot of insight into what must have been the real reasons behind Dan Jones being let go. He must have tried to hold his ground on some matter of integrity and been run out on rails by the alumni who were having none of it...
 

Maroon Eagle

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#2 sounds like a deal. $400 to win how much though?

#6 - I've preordered the book for myself and a few of my out-of-state friends are intrigued-- a Nebraska fan particularly. I may just buy another book for him as a present.
 

dawgstudent

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As far as receivers - is losing Fred Ross and that's it really a huge loss? Ross was good but it isn't like our receiving corp is going to be that much worse than last year. I would love more talent but I don't see the concern that others have.
 

coach66

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If our TE's emerge which I think they will and our running game improves which I

think it will then it makes the WR's job that much easier and I too am not concerned at this point.
 
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1. Ole miss. Could there be a bigger cluster? They are in the middle of a multi-year investigation and their head coach gets busted for hiring hookers! LOLOLOL. Hookers!

2. I bet $400 bucks that MSU would win over 4 1/2 games this year ( I bought 1 game down from 5 1/2 ). The thought that crosses my mind? WTF am I missing?

1. Sometimes it's talked about so much you can forget how hilarious it really is.

2. BYU is never a gimme. LaTech in Ruston concerns me. I could see Kentucky giving us all we want. We get hit with the wrong injuries and any of those games, which I think most here are banking on winning, could ruin your bet.
 

thekimmer

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Pretty good list. My comments

#1 The oxfart foibles are entertaining in a guilty pleasure sort of way. They are also indicative of a program that is singularly and uniquely dysfunctional like no other.
#2 I am not a betting man but that seems like a pretty good one on your part unless the payout is like $405 or something.
#4 I am concerned about receivers too but we found out in 2015 how much of a difference the O-line makes.
#5 Sirmon might have been the issue but I also found myself wondering how guys who have probably been coached for 10 years, with specialty coaching for 4 or 5 can seemingly forget how to tackle in just one year. The only logical answer is effort and that falls back to coaching.
#8 I will never consider myself a cowboys fan but definitely a Dak fan. That means I am a 'boys fan only as long as DP is in the game.
#9 Bad eclipse experience. Traveled to zone of totality. Fairly clear skies until 30 minutes prior to totality when a single cloud rolls in over the sun. It did not move away until 2 minutes AFTER totality. Totally bummed.
 
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kired

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We've also lost Malik Dear for the season, right? Those two combined accounted for a little more than 40% of our receiving yards & receptions. Assuming Gray picks up another 200 or so yards, we still have to spread out 1000 additional yards between Myles, Jackson, Couch, Mixon, Deddrick Thomas, Todd and the TEs.

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if we were assuming Dear was going to have 500-700 yards this season. Personally I think we're screwed if at least two out of Couch, Mixon, Thomas, and Todd don't get in that 500-700 yard range. And my reasoning for this is I think your top 5 receivers need to average ~500 yards between them.

Mullen has never gotten more than about 500 yards combined out of all our TEs in a single season. A lot of people seem to expect that will change, but I won't believe it till I see it.
 

dawgstudent

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Now losing Dear makes it worse. But losing Fred Ross only is not that big of a deal as far as our receiving corps. Ross was a good college WR but let's hope the improvement of Fitz takes the place of losing Ross.
 

philduckworth

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Now losing Dear makes it worse. But losing Fred Ross only is not that big of a deal as far as our receiving corps. Ross was a good college WR but let's hope the improvement of Fitz takes the place of losing Ross.

Seriously? I think Ross is a HUGE loss. Especially since we haven't recruited or developed any young receivers to replace him.
 

philduckworth

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What's on my mind this morning is that we signed 9 Jucos to play this year and we may only get contributions from 1 of them!!

And of course our piss poor offensive line recruiting. 2 Jucos who won't play. And 1 HS signee who can enroll. Looking back since Hev came to MSU, you can count on one hand the number of highly recruited O-linemen he has signed. I don't count Damien Robinson and Jake Thomas. Sure they were 4 stars, but they weren't highly recruited.

I just looked from 2010 to 2017 signing classes. That's 8 classes. I count 3 highly recruited players. Rankin, Reese and Eiland. And I'm being a little generous with Reese and Eiland. Reese was signed b/c of Buckley. And Eiland wasn't highly recruited at all, but UF came in with a really late offer.
 
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Moe Cabelle

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Man.. I think you are underestimated just how good Ross was. I'm not saying we won't over come it, but he has been our best receiver for many many years.. far and away. Derunny was hard to defend, but not the catch and run guy Ross was.
 

johnson86-1

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As far as receivers - is losing Fred Ross and that's it really a huge loss? Ross was good but it isn't like our receiving corp is going to be that much worse than last year. I would love more talent but I don't see the concern that others have.

I know we don't go up against man-to-man every play, but I look at it as a matchup issue. Another team matches up their top four cover guys against Ross, Gray, Dear, and Mixon, and their top two guys at least have their hands full and the third and fourth guys can't be slouches.

Change that matchup to Gray, Mixon, Myles, and ?Couch?/?Todd? and all the sudden they don't have to be that good. If they decide to go man, who out of that group is going to make them pay?
 

dawgstudent

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I just don't think losing our #1 WR and no one else is not a ridiculously huge loss. I honestly don't see our WR corp production dropping off that much and with Fitzgerald's expected improvement - hopefully he can make up for Ross not being there.
 

engie

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Gray and Mixon will make teams pay for sure. As will a couple of the TEs.

Seems to be alot of forgetfulness of what actually transpired in the receiving corps last year and a lot of short-selling on the development of some pretty highly touted players out there. We are lacking developed height outside, that part is certainly true. But are very deep at TE with several converted receivers with speed.

The reality is that we got about the same amount of receiving out of FR Farrod Green and FR Jamal Couch last year in comparison to what Fred Ross gave us as a freshman. And a lot more out of FR Keith Mixon. We will throw for significantly more yards this year than we did last year, which was in reality our worst season through the air since 2011. We will get more on the ground as well.

Ross actually started every game last year in the slot, the one spot where we have an abundance of fitting talent at WR.
 
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Willow Grove Dawg

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Ding Ding Ding we have a winner! I will not be a believer in this OL until they are competitive again LSU, Auburn, & Georgia.
 

Miketice

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I disagree on Ross. He caught 12 TDs last year.He tied with everyone else(combined they had 12). Dear had two of those. I just don't get a great feeling with anyone other than Gray.Maybe someone will get their shine on like Bear did.
 
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