Can we talk about DJ?

seccats04

Heisman
Dec 6, 2004
14,537
23,460
113
Rant away , its time for it .. How nice would it be to have the 2 possessions back where DJ and Aaron Bradshaw threw up threes ?? I told everyone that the 3 AB made at the end of the Florida was a terrible shot , many dogged me for it .. dude hasnt made 1 single 3 since .. but he's the big point .. he NEVER .. NEVER should be allowed to shot threes . NEVER .
AB shouldn't be allowed on the court.
 

K_TIME

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
18,408
25,734
113
The players are not our problem. They never have been. Our idiot fans keep blaming them, though.
Well….hold on a sec

Sure…Cal is a bigger problem. But he is leaning so much on kids that just aren’t great instead of exploring better options for Uk

Bradshaw could be coached by Jay Wright and he’d still be a skinny kid, no post game, not really a face up game and not athletic/twitchy for a big man

The betting on players like Bradshaw, Livingston , EJ Montgomery, Wenyen, Whitney, ,etc and not selling you need more than a year is foolish. And it’s been on loop for years
 

ManitouDan_anon

Heisman
Dec 7, 2006
20,073
32,434
0
AB shouldn't be allowed on the court.
I have no problem with that .. I really dont appreciate his demeanor and attempt to get in the Zags head with his cocky , mouth running , head shaking attempt when he was inserted in the 2nd half .. Its fine .. IF .. IF you back it up , All he did Was fire up a more experienced , stronger front line for the Zags . In short he got his *** handed to him . and helped drag down our entire effort to get a W . Obviously Ugo isnt the answer . cant deny that .. so Free Big Z . Quit handcuffing him with 3-4 minutes here and there .. play him !
 

TankedCat

Heisman
Nov 8, 2006
22,792
21,500
0
^^ That should be true thru Nov, Dec , maybe even JAN , but we are near 25 games in , and the team is clearly digressing . It's sad , In Feb they now have experience , and plenty of adversity .. with good leadership and coaching they get better ... our team . ha ha , we got a Benny leading us .
I would say your logic is based on the common - but I believe disproven, narrative created by fans and Calipari that these kids will be ready for March.

But the reality is based on multiple years of history, that maybe 2 out of 10 teams collectively progress enough to be able to face increasingly well-disciplined teams in the tournament by March, and most of them, at best, would develop enough in the following year to make a deep run.

I"m not certain any coach can succeed in that model - but this year with this talent was supposed to be the year Cal proved his approach still worked. Instead, to date, its only validated that his approach does more harm than good in a year over year analysis.

To tie a loss record that has stood for over 60 years dating back to the Rupp (following year after a title game appearance) with a team of this talent shows that Cal does not have answers on how to construct a winning program
 

TankedCat

Heisman
Nov 8, 2006
22,792
21,500
0
Well….hold on a sec

Sure…Cal is a bigger problem. But he is leaning so much on kids that just aren’t great instead of exploring better options for Uk

Bradshaw could be coached by Jay Wright and he’d still be a skinny kid, no post game, not really a face up game and not athletic/twitchy for a big man

The betting on players like Bradshaw, Livingston , EJ Montgomery, Wenyen, Whitney, ,etc and not selling you need more than a year is foolish. And it’s been on loop for years
I'm assuming Bradhsaw was a 5 star player in this discussion


the ratings system is flawed. Bradshaw shouldn't be a 5 star, and had he been rated a 4 star , he might have had expectations that he was a multi year player who needed to develop his physicality in the game. But the downside to that is, Cal wouldn't have aggressively recruited him if not for the rating.
 

K_TIME

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
18,408
25,734
113
I'm assuming Bradhsaw was a 5 star player in this discussion


the ratings system is flawed. Bradshaw shouldn't be a 5 star, and had he been rated a 4 star , he might have had expectations that he was a multi year player who needed to develop his physicality in the game. But the downside to that is, Cal wouldn't have aggressively recruited him if not for the rating.
Agreed….. but to the Op post…,there are significant players flaws in our bag of problems
 

chroix

Heisman
Jul 22, 2013
10,627
26,877
113
Yeah. That was awful, too. The Camden duo has been uninspiring.

I never want to see another package deal ever again. If a kid doesn’t want to play with someone and refuses to come or whatever then hit the bricks. The kids controlling the program **** has got to end. We could have had Trae Young, Cade Cunningham and a lot of other phenomenal players had Coach not allowed the recruits to dictate the direction.
 

TankedCat

Heisman
Nov 8, 2006
22,792
21,500
0
I'm sure its been said already

Cal can't say if we don't have DJ, we don't win anymore
 

cats#1again

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2011
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The heat check 3 that he airballed was one of the most selfish, poorly timed, hero wannabe shots I’ve seen in a long time.

Expected a Wall type of impact (I’m not saying they are the same type of player) from him when he signed. He was the alpha in the McD’s game when he took over and got MVP. Other elite recruits deferred to him. Supposed to be a legit dawg.

Disappointed.
That's your fault then
 

Runnin'Ramel

Heisman
Jan 19, 2005
35,666
13,527
113
I was fine that he took it. He just missed.

Would you have said it was one of the most selfish plays you'd seen in a long time if it had gone in?
He missed, so you don't get to play that game.

But yeah, it was a HORRIFIC shot from a guy who isn't known to be a shooter, in transition, when UK was down 2.

Selfish, poorly timed, hero ball sh*t.
 

Runnin'Ramel

Heisman
Jan 19, 2005
35,666
13,527
113
That's your fault then
Well, we have been told DJ was "him" since he was a freshman in HS. The next great star of college bball destined to play for Cal.

It's not like I just came up with that expectation on my own.

But sure, after this class, I could honestly not care less about recruits, their rankings, or what their class is ranked ever again. Three top 10 kids and this team is about to be unranked in February and 7th in the conference.

I watched 5 other games yesterday. Teams loaded with experienced players who have been in their respective programs for 3-4 years, looking like a cohesive unit, short rotations, and very few of them were 5 star top 25 guys.

Until Cal is gone, which recruits he signs means little to nothing for Kentucky basketball.

He can leave and lose the ENTIRE incoming class. Means nothing to me. Because a decent coach -- and there are plenty -- will use the portal to be just fine right away. It's Kentucky, the brand will sell itself.
 

Runnin'Ramel

Heisman
Jan 19, 2005
35,666
13,527
113
Rant away , its time for it .. How nice would it be to have the 2 possessions back where DJ and Aaron Bradshaw threw up threes ?? I told everyone that the 3 AB made at the end of the Florida was a terrible shot , many dogged me for it .. dude hasnt made 1 single 3 since .. but he's the big point .. he NEVER .. NEVER should be allowed to shot threes . NEVER .
Agreed. That moment, and the one game Ugo played really well have both hurt the team in the long run. Ugo gets far too much clock and can't do a single thing offensively.
 

NociHTTP

Heisman
Mar 8, 2023
12,866
20,145
113
Well….hold on a sec

Sure…Cal is a bigger problem. But he is leaning so much on kids that just aren’t great instead of exploring better options for Uk

Bradshaw could be coached by Jay Wright and he’d still be a skinny kid, no post game, not really a face up game and not athletic/twitchy for a big man

The betting on players like Bradshaw, Livingston , EJ Montgomery, Wenyen, Whitney, ,etc and not selling you need more than a year is foolish. And it’s been on loop for years
Height have been forced to actually hit the gym and bulk up before the season started. A demanding coach would have put that in place, not this social justice I want to be your rich friend nonsense.
 

know1

Heisman
Dec 8, 2002
12,855
14,925
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But they are a problem.
Edwards was supposed to be our best FR since Fox/Bam/Monk. He’s been extremely mediocre at best, playing like a 3*. Bradshaw as I feared is D.Collins 2.0.
At least Rob and Reed have been a pleasant surprise.
You ever think some of why they are under performing though is coaching, development and putting them in strategic position to best help the team?
 

WildcatNC

Heisman
Sep 20, 2004
9,722
18,143
113
I didn't mind Reeds heat check 3, he was actually hot. I usually don't mind Dilly doing it when he's on fire either.

You have to actually be on fire for it to be a "heat check". Otherwise it's just a bad shot.
 

bnewt

Heisman
May 29, 2001
8,853
11,022
113
Reed did the exact same thing in the second half with us up by three when we were scoring at will. He had passed up 4 or 5 wide open threes up to that point and attempted a bomb with a guy on him with 21 seconds on the shot clock.
Difference, Reed carried uk in the 2nd half. Who else was going to score...Ugo, edwards, bradshaw? Reeves was shut down most of the game
 

bnewt

Heisman
May 29, 2001
8,853
11,022
113
Rant away , its time for it .. How nice would it be to have the 2 possessions back where DJ and Aaron Bradshaw threw up threes ?? I told everyone that the 3 AB made at the end of the Florida was a terrible shot , many dogged me for it .. dude hasnt made 1 single 3 since .. but here's the big point .. he NEVER .. NEVER should be allowed to shot threes . NEVER .
When ccc said Bradshaw was going to play out on the floor, I said then he could not shoot. Also said he couldn't play inside because he couldn't handle contact or even block shots. All have proven true. Yet the idiot coach keeps playing him
 

UKWildcats1987

Heisman
Sep 9, 2021
20,153
35,566
113
surprised to see he played 11 minutes , he literally did nothing . Rough day . And Burks gets 8 minutes .. WHY WHY WHY ?? Those 8 need to go Z !

Almost everyone on here was saying Burkes should play going forward. Not saying u or me said that. I agree with z needing more.
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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Dec 7, 2006
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Almost everyone on here was saying Burkes should play going forward. Not saying u or me said that. I agree with z needing more.
Burks is another project .. it's similar to Call thinking Lance Ware should start .. its absurdity . Burks should be a victory cigar at this point in time ..
 
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Good on him for playing at less than 100. It's obvious from seeing him out there that he is legit hurting. With that said, if you are out there on the court then you take responsibility for taking a god awful shot. Idc what anyone says. Since the big men have become more integrated in to this team Kentucky's passing has taken a hit. We are just fortunate enough to have some very big offensive weapons playing guard for us.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
46,819
85,541
113
Height have been forced to actually hit the gym and bulk up before the season started. A demanding coach would have put that in place, not this social justice I want to be your rich friend nonsense.
Well he may get them drafted on “potential” but none of them will be rich, not a single one will last and they will end up spending their 900k contact on a new car and home they can’t afford, and what it actually costs to compete in the NBA. Then they will be gone.
 

reggis

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I have no problem with that .. I really dont appreciate his demeanor and attempt to get in the Zags head with his cocky , mouth running , head shaking attempt when he was inserted in the 2nd half .. Its fine .. IF .. IF you back it up , All he did Was fire up a more experienced , stronger front line for the Zags . In short he got his *** handed to him . and helped drag down our entire effort to get a W . Obviously Ugo isnt the answer . cant deny that .. so Free Big Z . Quit handcuffing him with 3-4 minutes here and there .. play him !
Let z play outside the 3pt line he is deadly from there bu cannot play defense or offense inside