First Take on Kap

[ShrubDog]

Only ESPN could spin this past weekend's events as being a good thing for Kap. What is wrong with people?


“You hope it affects it enough that he gets a job in the NFL.”

—Max on how the Charlottesville protests may affect Colin Kaepernick.


If there is any good to come out of this tragedy in Virginia, it is that it may serve as a wake-up call to many and maybe there’s a sea change in terms of people’s opinions about the seriousness of the race problem in America today. So in the global view of the Kaepernick situation, to answer the question ‘Will this affect the way people view Colin Kaepernick?’ is, yes, it will. And you hope it affects it enough that he gets a job in the NFL, in fact, and people realize he is protesting real things.”

 

[Coledawg]

Only ESPN could spin this past weekend's events as being a good thing for Kap. What is wrong with people?


“You hope it affects it enough that he gets a job in the NFL.”

—Max on how the Charlottesville protests may affect Colin Kaepernick.


If there is any good to come out of this tragedy in Virginia, it is that it may serve as a wake-up call to many and maybe there’s a sea change in terms of people’s opinions about the seriousness of the race problem in America today. So in the global view of the Kaepernick situation, to answer the question ‘Will this affect the way people view Colin Kaepernick?’ is, yes, it will. And you hope it affects it enough that he gets a job in the NFL, in fact, and people realize he is protesting real things.”

Sorry, we're all very afraid to weigh in on this.....

 

[DerHntr]

It's a business decision by the owners. If they thought the potential of him making them more money was much greater than the risk of him losing them money, he would have had a job long ago.

 

[ShrubDog]

It's a business decision by the owners. If they thought the potential of him making them more money was much greater than the risk of him losing them money, he would have had a job long ago.

Great explanation

 

[mstateglfr]

Its unfortunate that he is the face of the last year+ of NFL race issue discussions. From what I have heard, he doesnt seem especially informed or well spoken on the issue(s) he is apparently protesting, and it shows. To me(and i think others), it lessens the impact and that isnt a good thing.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

If Colin Kaepernick could win games for the team

He would have a job. Period. If he was the difference between a team making the playoffs vs not without him.. he would be under center. No question. No ifs or butts.

He can't convince anyone of that. So he sits home munching on carrots and tofu with his psycho ***** girlfriend who has done him no favors in landing on a team.

ESPN is going to lobby over and over on their shows for him to land on a team so they can have a Kaepernick cam and the whiney, miserable, nothings that are on ESPN all day can dissect his every move. They are already jumping for joy this morning after someone else is sitting for the anthem after doing what? Visiting Colin Kaepernick.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Nobody is going to

take a chance on a guy, and avg Joe fans aren't going to pull for, a guy that is a millionaire and says he's treated like a slave, when he's walking around in communists propaganda.

 

[ShrubDog]

Its unfortunate that he is the face of the last year+ of NFL race issue discussions. From what I have heard, he doesnt seem especially informed or well spoken on the issue(s) he is apparently protesting, and it shows. To me(and i think others), it lessens the impact and that isnt a good thing.

I think you heard right.

 

[patdog]

He's just an idiot whose suddenly decided he's not "black enough" and is feeling guilty that he was raised by white parents of decent means. He doesn't want to play in the NFL this fall. He's had at least 1 chance to sign with a team as a backup, and probably a few more. But he'd rather be a martyr than play football.

 

[3407Dewey]

Huh?

take a chance on a guy, and avg Joe fans aren't going to pull for, a guy that is a millionaire and says he's treated like a slave, when he's walking around in communists propaganda.

I completely understand why some were/are offended at his decision to take a knee during the anthem. But has he honestly said that? And what communist propaganda are you referring to?

 

[DerHntr]

Offended people don't pay the bills. Stephen A. cited people on NFL teams that have committed crimes. Although detestable, most people aren't personally offended by it.

Putting a backup on your team who will most likely cost you money because he offends a very large number of people (deserving or not) doesn't make much sense. The only way he makes you money is if your starter gets hurt/plays badly and then the backup plays above his normal ceiling and gets you to the playoffs and more ticket sales.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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He also has worn some Che Guevara shirts. I believe he wore the Castro shirt while talking about oppression in the United States.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

He's a not very good QB with baggage. Sounds like a winning combination.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

Cmon.

I completely understand why some were/are offended at his decision to take a knee during the anthem. But has he honestly said that? And what communist propaganda are you referring to?

dude. Google. Takes two seconds

https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL...done-by-communist-Fidel-Castro/9581480294777/

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael...-about-us-oppression-wears-communist-dictator

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/...s-merits-of-fidel-castro-with-miami-reporter/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...o-slave-patrol-after-philando-castile-verdict

 

[3407Dewey]

Yikes. I honestly wasn't aware of some of that.

 

[Dawgg]

It's the BS to Talent Ratio.

It's a business decision by the owners. If they thought the potential of him making them more money was much greater than the risk of him losing them money, he would have had a job long ago.

That's the core of it. The NFL has a sliding ********:talent ratio that players have to stay within.

It's why Michael Vick can choke a dog to death and get signed by Philadelphia 3 weeks after being released from federal prison.
It's why Greg Hardy can throw his wife onto a bed full of guns and get a $13 Million payday with Dallas before the ink is dried on the settlement.
It's why Adam Pacman Jones can beat up strippers, be involved in a club shooting, and fight his coaches and still have a job in the NFL.
It's also why Ray Rice isn't playing any more.
It's why Johnny Manziel isn't playing any more.
It's why Mike Vanderjagt, the most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL, hasn't played in over 10 years.
It's why Colin Kaepernick is not playing today.

Kap has NFL ability. It's foolish to say otherwise, but he doesn't have enough ability for an owner or GM to justify the level of ******** they'll have to deal with. If Kap had Brady/Rogers/Peyton type ability, there are plenty of teams out there that would pick him up.

 

[ArrowDawg]

The events in Charlottesville don't change the fact that Kaepernick ignorantly sees cops as racist pigs or that he holds Fidel Castro in high regard. If he'd focused his message on the right things, without doing all he could to divide and piss off the people he wanted to convey his message to, then he wouldn't be in this position.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I take it

you haven't really kept up w the situation?

 

[amcdan2000]

Owners are greedy. If they thought their wheelchair bound grammies could win them games, they'd get them out of whatever home they were in and tell them to stay in the pocket and pass. Plus nobody stood up for Tebow.

 

[Son_of_34]

I often wonder if Dak took a knee or raised his fist during the anthem, because his father is black for those who didn't know, how many of the "good ole boys" on this board would trash him?

 

[Kojak.sixpack]

Are you Arrowdawg...

The events in Charlottesville don't change the fact that Kaepernick ignorantly sees cops as racist pigs or that he holds Fidel Castro in high regard. If he'd focused his message on the right things, without doing all he could to divide and piss off the people he wanted to convey his message to, then he wouldn't be in this position.

from Genespage's early days?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

His father is black? No way!

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

It's the same thing for Tebow. Neither of them are good quarterbacks.

 

[KurtRambis4]

If he did

what Kap is doing and has done, I'd feel the same, snowflake. Next.

ETA: Next time, don't be such a ***** and call us "racists."

 

[MaroonNation]

I completely understand why some were/are offended at his decision to take a knee during the anthem. But has he honestly said that? And what communist propaganda are you referring to?

The dubmass showed up to an interview wearing a Che Guevara shirt and a Castro shirt to another one while talking about oppression. The Miami Cuban community went viral with hate towards him. He is one of the biggest idiots in professional sports. The fact he was raised by a white family and never really was oppressed a day in his life also adds a lot of ammo. Here's what you need to know about Kappernick. If he's on your team and he's riding the bench he will be a cancer.

 

[DerHntr]

Owners are greedy. If they thought their wheelchair bound grammies could win them games, they'd get them out of whatever home they were in and tell them to stay in the pocket and pass. Plus nobody stood up for Tebow.

Owners take very significant risk and expect a return that makes the risk worth it. Welcome to capitalism.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

That's what you spend your time wondering about?
Dak has class. Nuf said

 

[the dog is on the loose]

Nothing that happened in Charlottesville will change my opinion of him. Kap is an idiot. Period.

 

[Bulldogg31]

I often wonder if Dak took a knee or raised his fist during the anthem, because his father is black for those who didn't know, how many of the "good ole boys" on this board would trash him?

Wait. Dak is black? **

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Fact is, It would displease his Mom

and he would not do that.

 

[ShrubDog]

That is a fact filled assumption that is possibly correct to some degree.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Ok, just a universally informed opinion.

 

[Grevlin]

That's what you spend your time wondering about?
Dak has class. Nuf said

Exactly. In 'Dak Prescott, A Family Reunion' released recently by the Cowboys, he's at Dudy Noble walking with a group, hears the anthem starting up, takes his cap off and stands at attention. Dak's America (and he's black, white AND Native American) is a place that people of any ethnicity and socioeconomic background can work hard and succeed.

 

[dawgoneyall]

I completely understand why some were/are offended at his decision to take a knee during the anthem. But has he honestly said that? And what communist propaganda are you referring to?

You are kidding evidently!

 

[Son_of_34]

what Kap is doing and has done, I'd feel the same, snowflake. Next.

ETA: Next time, don't be such a ***** and call us "racists."

Ha snowflake? You're the ***** *** softie getting their brooks brother cotton knit boxers in a wad because that ****** didn't stay in his place. Roll on up to Starkville with your tiki torch and so I can show you my "safe space" David Duke

 

[TBone.sixpack]

(((Yawn)))

 

[KurtRambis4]

Wow.

Calm down, chief, before you bust a spring.

You're really bad at this message board thing. I hope for your sake, you're just trolling.

Otherwise, you're just a complete dubmass. How is not supporting a clown that promotes figures that were responsible for killing millions of innocent people being racist, again?

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

Dak is more of a Derek Jeter color.

 

[dogmatic]

It's a business decision by the owners. If they thought the potential of him making them more money was much greater than the risk of him losing them money, he would have had a job long ago.

That's not the only business decision in play. ESPN's continued coverage of the guy and the situation is very much a business decision as well.

ESPN is facing a very desperate business situation of their own. We discuss the cord-cutting topic here continuously because it's a matter that continues to develop, with new methods of delivery, new pricing, new outlets and more options, and every single facet of that is bad for the business model ESPN is mired into. They're teed up to lose the everliving **** out of a lot of money. Already they're sliding swiftly down the side of a mountain that grows ever steeper.

Exactly the way cable news (and I'm not going political here) is programmed to incite because their revenue is ratings-based, ESPN helps their own cause by stirring the pot. Kaepernick is just one of their wooden spoons, one they're loathe to let go. As long as you specifically love him OR hate him, you're sloshing up the side of the pot and tuning in either way.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

I often wonder if Dak took a knee or raised his fist during the anthem, because his father is black for those who didn't know, how many of the "good ole boys" on this board would trash him?

ahh.. so refreshing. You feel it? It's the cool breeze on a summer day when an idiot yanks out the race card and waves it around.

Just go spend a little time on Kaepernicks twitter feed. Go look at the absolute hate he is retweeting. There are no sports. There are no favorable tweets about players, encouraging stories, good football news, team retweets, coming together, family, nothing. He tweets and retweets pure hate and instigation. Race this, race that, cops are awful, modern day slavery, hashtag white terrorism, blah blah blah.

now go spend some time on Dak's. See the complete difference? Family, Team, upbeat, encouraging quotes, happy times.

Act like you do not know either one for a second. Which would you guess who was brought up "well to do" and which one would you think has had to fight and scratch for everything he has.

And you don't know us *******. Gtfo with your "good ole boys" ****. Dak Prescott is a treasure to MSU and I know no one who disagrees.

Father was black.... you are a real damn prick.