OT: Coke Zero discontinued

[11thEagleFan]

Well lads, I heard the bad news this morning. Coca-Cola has decided to halt production THIS WEEK of the always delicious nectar of the gods, Coke Zero. Looks like it's either Diet Dr. Pepper or Coca-Cola Classic for me from here on out. Please don't suggest the swill known as Diet Coke, which I refer to as "garbage juice." Yeah, it's a slow time of the year for sports.

 

[coach66]

Not a good look for soft drinks. Actually the move into healthy drinks is well

underway, more will fall by the wayside.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

You were the only one,

actually drinking it.

Good move KO.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Say it ain't so! ****. I switched to it from Classic a few years ago & lost like 40 pounds. My kidneys will be happy, I suppose, but I usually flushed those with beer. Time to buy in bulk.

 

[MaroonNation]

actually drinking it.

Good move KO.

He and my wife. Also both USM grads...
I could never drink it. The taste just wasn't there for me.

 

[aTotal360]

Sugar is better for you than artificial sweeteners. Not that either are good, but I'm just saying. Secondly, moderation...

 

[patdog]

Being replaced with Coke Zero Sugar. Hate to see it go. It had about half the aspertame as most diet sodas and tasted great. Hope this works out better than last time Coke decided to come out with a new version of one of its colas.

Link

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Sugar is not better for you at all.

Sugar in that quantity is absolutely awful for you. I'm guilty of eating way too much of it myself. Most artificial sweeteners are harmless because your body can't break them down. Only real downside is they can give you the *****. Artificial sweeteners got the same bad rap that MSG did, both totally unfairly.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Gave up sodas over 20 years ago. My liquids are 98% coffee, water, beer.

2-3 cups of coffee in the morning, 3-4 beers in the evening. Lots of water.

I do have an occasional soda. Probably about 10 per year.

 

[Predestined]

Mistakes were made.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

This guy sums it up perfectly.

http://www.gq.com/story/rip-coke-zero

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

MSG can interfere with some epilepsy meds from my understanding. My doc told me not to eat ramen every day for this reason. It is fine in small doses but not large amounts all the time if you have a neurological condition. I think they give to you like salt and pepper over on the mainland so i'm just going by what my doc said and he's been good to me.

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

Did anybody notice months back when Crystal Pepsi made a brief, terrible return?

 

[AssEndDawg]

Well lads, I heard the bad news this morning. Coca-Cola has decided to halt production THIS WEEK of the always delicious nectar of the gods, Coke Zero. Looks like it's either Diet Dr. Pepper or Coca-Cola Classic for me from here on out. Please don't suggest the swill known as Diet Coke, which I refer to as "garbage juice." Yeah, it's a slow time of the year for sports.

They are re-branding and slightly changing the formula (not even changing ingredients, just some tinkering with the amounts). This is primarily because people didn't understand that "Zero" meant no calorie and their focus groups showed a lot of confusion. Is isn't a very big change at all...

 

[Dawgg]

My wife drank it for years. Goes back and forth between it and Diet Dr. Pepper.

Yes... she graduated from USM as well.

 

[Dawgg]

Did anybody notice months back when Crystal Pepsi made a brief, terrible return?

I heard about it. Never actually saw it on the shelves here. You know what's really terrible though? Pepsi Fire.

It's like drinking soap suds sprinkled in cinnamon.

The only soda I'll drink is Dr. Pepper with sugar. It's pretty readily available at most stores around Dallas-Fort Worth. That said, I rarely drink true sodas outside my daily can(s) of Red Bull.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

Aspartame is poison. Never understand why companies are still allowed to put it in anything for human consumption.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Replacing it with Coke Zerue

 

[AFDawg]

Some artificial sweeteners may possibly promote insulin resistance. They're probably not great for you either.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diab...rtificial-sweeteners-cause-insulin-resistance

 

[mstateglfr]

[h=2]Not a good look for soft drinks. Actually the move into healthy drinks is well underway, more will fall by the wayside.

[/h]And from what Ive seen, many healthy drinks have a 17ton of sugar. Our grocery stores with 'health markets' carry things in that area which are, when aggregated, barely healthier than whats in the normal aisles.

drinks with cane sugar are still drinks with a 17ton of sugar. That isnt healthy and shouldnt be in a 'health market'.

-end side rant-

 

[mstateglfr]

Most artificial sweeteners are harmless because your body can't break them down. Only real downside is they can give you the *****. Artificial sweeteners got the same bad rap that MSG did, both totally unfairly.

So the ***** and they can 17 with your insulin and glucose levels/response. But otherwise, they are perfect.

 

[DerHntr]

Aspartame is poison. Never understand why companies are still allowed to put it in anything for human consumption.

They are probably allowed to still put it in things for human consumption because it isn't poison.

 

[VillagepeopleDogs]

Damn, LUS let him go just before the season?

 

[stateu1]

ICWYDT

 

[AssEndDawg]

Aspartame is poison. Never understand why companies are still allowed to put it in anything for human consumption.

Actually, that's not true at all. About the same time that Aspartame came out scientists noticed a spike in brain tumors. A paper was written linking the two in very vague terms which launched millions and millions of dollars worth of research into this link. The results were that there is no link between Aspartame and cancer and it is considered 100% safe for humans. Fun fact, Aspartame is about 200x sweeter than sugar, so the amount used is really, really tiny. At that amount it could actually be toxic and still not hurt you. It's not toxic though... totally safe.

https://gimletmedia.com/episode/3718/

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Aspartame is NOT poison and wherever you see that says it is, is full of ****.

 

[thekimmer]

Data is far from clear on that as well....

So the ***** and they can 17 with your insulin and glucose levels/response. But otherwise, they are perfect.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/538318-does-aspartame-affect-sugar-or-insulin-in-the-body/

Scientifically it does not make sense that aspartame itself would affect insulin or blood sugar directly because its not a carbohydrate and has no nutritive value. Just because something tastes sweet does not make the body react to it as a sugar and even if it did it should LOWER blood sugar because, as said, it has no sugar and if it stimulated insulin release wouldn't that just drive BS down further? Now, I have heard that it might stimulate appetite which would cause one to eat more than they should which would lead to weight gain and the chronic problems that accompany but I have not seen any hard data to that end.

I think there are three things that can be said about this.

1) Aspartame is better for you than sugar from the standpoint of weight and blood sugar control.

2) Water is better than either aspartame or sugar sweetened beverages.

3) Like most things in life, moderation is the key. Two or three cans a day no big deal. Two or three six packs a day, not a great idea.

 

[Dawgg]

A paper was written linking the two in very vague terms which launched millions and millions of dollars worth of research into this link. The results were that there is no link between Aspartame and cancer

Actually, that's pretty misleading. It wasn't just one paper. Plenty of studies showed negative side effects. The methods of those studies were disputed, but it's not like there was some unbiased blessed by the angels end-all study that concluded there was absolutely 100% no link between Aspartame and cancer. There may have been possible other contributing factors to the cancer discovered in the subjects of the Aspartame to cancer (or whichever health risk) studies, but that doesn't inherently preclude Aspartame itself from being a contributing factor. It's like saying smoking doesn't cause cancer because some subjects in the study have grandparents that had cancer or lived near a power plant or a paper mill or ate trans fats or visited southern Utah in the 1950's or own a microwave. It obfuscates the direct link, but it doesn't eliminate it.

To be clear, no credible study (not funded by a beverage or chemical company) has ever been published that said Aspartame is completely free of health risks and/or carcinogens (especially for the thousands of Americans unable to properly process phenylalanine).

it is considered 100% safe for humans.

There's no such thing as 100% safe for humans.

Fun fact, Aspartame is about 200x sweeter than sugar

That is an interesting fact. It still tastes like ****.

 

[ShrubDog]

Aspartame is poison. Never understand why companies are still allowed to put it in anything for human consumption.

Exactly, there is a reason its in the drinks. It is probably addictive like sugar. Sugar is not much better and it causes how many health issues? Aspartame is made by bacteria by-products in a lab, yes the amino and aspartic acids are found naturally in the body...just weird man. This is a topic that has interested me for years. I stay away from soft drinks anyway but its in so many other products. Hell you can't find chewing gum without 'fake sugar'.

 

[VillagepeopleDogs]

17 man. Smoked sausage is bad for you. Hot Dogs? Sompin' gonna kill you. Can't avoid everything in life they say is gonna get you. They change the studies every other year.

 

[patdog]

Sugar in that quantity is absolutely awful for you.

Yeah. There's over 1/4 cup of sugar in every can of a regular soft drink. I'll continue to take my chances on the small amount of aspertame in the 4 or so cans per week I'm down to.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

Aspartame is metabolized into aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. A liter of diet soda produces 55 mg of methanol in the body. A liter of fruit juice causes 13 times as much.

Most studies use levels of aspartame at 4000 mg/kg a day.

A diet soda soda usually runs about can range from 57-125 mg of aspartame compared to around 40 grams of sugar.

The point here is risk of effects is strongly correlated to exposure. I don't think anyone is going to change their minds about it, but there is no strong evidence to suggest it is a carcinogen.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Aspartame is metabolized into aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol.

So, it makes you expel gas, i.e burp & fart more?

 

[AssEndDawg]

Actually, that's pretty misleading. It wasn't just one paper. Plenty of studies showed negative side effects. The methods of those studies were disputed, but it's not like there was some unbiased blessed by the angels end-all study that concluded there was absolutely 100% no link between Aspartame and cancer. There may have been possible other contributing factors to the cancer discovered in the subjects of the Aspartame to cancer (or whichever health risk) studies, but that doesn't inherently preclude Aspartame itself from being a contributing factor. It's like saying smoking doesn't cause cancer because some subjects in the study have grandparents that had cancer or lived near a power plant or a paper mill or ate trans fats or visited southern Utah in the 1950's or own a microwave. It obfuscates the direct link, but it doesn't eliminate it.

To be clear, no credible study (not funded by a beverage or chemical company) has ever been published that said Aspartame is completely free of health risks and/or carcinogens (especially for the thousands of Americans unable to properly process phenylalanine).


There's no such thing as 100% safe for humans.


That is an interesting fact. It still tastes like ****.

/yawn... ********. Sorry, one study linked brain tumors and Aspartame and that started all the other research. Absolutely no scientific study has found any proof of harm in humans. The rest of what you said was blathering BS.

 

[patdog]

To be clear, no credible study (not funded by a beverage or chemical company) has ever been published that said Aspartame is completely free of health risks and/or carcinogens

And no credible study has ever been published that said aspertame was a health risk for humans either. The few that did have been discredited.

 

[BoomBoom.sixpack]

Yeah. There's over 1/4 cup of sugar in every can of a regular soft drink. I'll continue to take my chances on the small amount of aspertame in the 4 or so cans per week I'm down to.

would you be ok with taking a tiny bit of cyanide?

 

[CochiseCowbell]

There's a whole lot of "preaching" going on in this thread about Coca-Cola. I won't make any comparisons. I won't draw any conclusions. I won't make any "cast the first stone" jokes. I'll simply state that "I am human" & what Coke Zero does to me is the LEAST of my worries.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

To each his own, but the results are unclear and you don't see as much of that stuff in other countries. Take a look around peeps, the **** we eat is causing a lot of health issues... and I'm not conspiritorial nor anything remotely close to a lib. But I got the cancer and so wish I could reverse a few of my bad habits. Luckily I will survive, but I'm certainly telling my kids to do different. I don't buy into everything, but the preservatives and artificial **** like corn suger... that can't be good. I do believe the key is moderation.. which I don't sport at all.

In any case - I now believe sugar is better than the artificial stuff... but the artificial stuff causes us to require waaay to much sugar for same effect. Not good, so best not to go there. For me, I still use the pink and yellow.... no blue! I think.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Darn it. That's my favorite cola drink.

No sarcasterisks.

But then I am an alum of Southern Miss.

 

[cowbell88]

I heard about it. Never actually saw it on the shelves here. You know what's really terrible though? Pepsi Fire.

It's like drinking soap suds sprinkled in cinnamon.

The only soda I'll drink is Dr. Pepper with sugar. It's pretty readily available at most stores around Dallas-Fort Worth. That said, I rarely drink true sodas outside my daily can(s) of Red Bull.

Pepsi fire is/was effin awful. Took 3 swallows, gave rest to my 4 year old, who made a face and quickly gave it back. I poured the rest out at next stoplight.