Discovering phone call

stateguy

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How did it take Steve Robertson going thru Freeze's phone records for the call to be found? I'm not trying to question Robertson's investigative skill (I wish I had sources like he did), but point is what the hell were Nutt's lawyers doing with the records? Robertson makes it sound like he got the records and pretty quickly found out who used that number (don't remember the days he listed in getting the records).I mean if Nutt's legal team is so great, how did they not google the number?

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stateguy

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Can you tell me where the answer is? Never saw a reason why Nutt's lawyers didn't research the numbers. Or did Robertson get them very soon after the lawyers did?
 

BlueRidgeMtns

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I think the consensus was that Nutt's lawyer gave him the records and in return Rosebowl would keep him in the loop on anything interesting he found.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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I think that he sent the phone records to Steve because it would be simple for Steve to cross reference a portion of the numbers against the cell phone numbers of the 2016 recruits that he had for interviews.
 

yjnkdawg

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How did it take Steve Robertson going thru Freeze's phone records for the call to be found? I'm not trying to question Robertson's investigative skill (I wish I had sources like he did), but point is what the hell were Nutt's lawyers doing with the records? Robertson makes it sound like he got the records and pretty quickly found out who used that number (don't remember the days he listed in getting the records).I mean if Nutt's legal team is so great, how did they not google the number?



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Steve did find the "one call". Mars furnished Steve with copies of the logs. Even Mars says that Steve was the one who found the number. How all that transpired I have no clue.
 

MaroonOldCrow

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I think it makes sense that he'd send the info to Steve for review because:

1. Rosebowl isn't going to ignore anything on Freeze/OM's behalf (looking at you, Clarion Ledger)

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2. Rosebowl likely has all the numbers (home/office/cell) for most, if not all, the alleged sports journalists involved. Mars' team would have been saved the legwork of even researching/finding all those numbers.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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All the work of tracking down the phone numbers would be performed by paralegals. That costs money and to get the most bang for the buck, the paralegals are going to work within the scope the attorneys give them, i.e. information relating to Hugh Freeze leaking disparaging comments to media sources. They are building a case for Nutt's lawsuit, not a case for getting Freeze fired.

This is where Rosebowl steps in. He essentially acts as a pro bono paralegal. From Mars's perspective it's a good deal. He might know other phone numbers of media sources. Since he's free and very willing, he can drill down (pardon the phrase) into numbers that are not media sources.

It's not that Nutt's legal team sucks. They did a good job of combing through the phone records to find all the evidence needed for Nutt's case; that's their job.
 

stateguy

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"They did a good job of combing through the phone records to find all the evidence needed for Nutt's case; that's their job."

I find it hard to believe if they would have researched all the numbers thoroughly that they would haven't found this based on Robertson's report of how easily he found it. I don't think they would have let it slide if they had found it. Maybe giving the list to Robertson was their way of not letting it slide.

Also can't imagine they would have relied on someone not working for him to replace his paralegals - short of Steve saying "oh yeah - 662 XXX-XXXX is so and so's number - a rebel booster"
 

gptdawg

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While we're on the subject of state furnished phones to make booty calls, as taxpayers, do we have the right to ask how aforementioned booty was paid for?
 

Dawgg

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I find it hard to believe if they would have researched all the numbers thoroughly that they would haven't found this based on Robertson's report of how easily he found it. I don't think they would have let it slide if they had found it. Maybe giving the list to Robertson was their way of not letting it slide.


A few things here:
Nutt's lawyer (Mars) wanted specifically the phone calls that aligned with the media members tweeting and writing about the charges predating Nutt. Getting the day before and the day after was Mars obfuscating his true intention. He didn't want Ole Miss to do preemptive damage control before the complaint came out.
It's not like they were combing through every single call made and Googling every single number. They quite probably had a list of people and numbers they knew (ie. Chris Low, Matt Wyatt, Neal McCready, Andy Staples, Ed Aschoff, etc.) and wanted to specifically target. If Houston Nutt knows Andy Staples number, they can look specifically for the times that specific number was called and for how long.

"Researching thoroughly" is going to take some time and they wanted enough ammo to build a solid complaint, but they didn't have to build the entire case yet. This is why they're now going back and requesting phone calls from back to 2012 and growing the net to include Bjork (and likely others). Between now and the trial, more will be discovered.

Also can't imagine they would have relied on someone not working for him to replace his paralegals - short of Steve saying "oh yeah - 662 XXX-XXXX is so and so's number - a rebel booster"

I think this boils down to three things:
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I don't know the total number of calls made, but I assume being the final weeks before signing day, they were probably increased. Also, if they're mobile numbers, they're not going to be in the phone book, nor are they going to be public knowledge. Steve might know a local 247 guy's number or the beat writer for a local media outlet or something else they might have overlooked.

2.
Nutt specifically mentions recruits in his claims. Assumedly, Steve has contact information for those recruits, meaning he can corroborate calls to recruits coinciding with tweets and/or media mentions of the recruit saying things like "yeah, coach told me all that stuff was the previous staff". Steve made a comment about the lack of recruit calls on the list.

3. They knew Steve was driven to see this through, had been proven right multiple times so far in the NCAA case, and had maybe done a lot of the legwork on some of the leads they were following.

Bringing in a 'Subject Matter Expert' is a common practice for law firms.
 
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