How a Rival team is affected by NCAA Sanctions

Maroon Eagle

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Auburn didn't win a national championship in '04. They were the team left out of the title game.
 

Maroon Eagle

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Dude. Do. Your. Research.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Auburn_Tigers_football_team

The 2004 Auburn Tigers football team represented Auburn University in the 2004 NCAA Division I-A football season. Auburn compiled a record of 13–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship and finishing the season ranked #2 in both the AP Poll and the Coaches' Poll.[SUP][1][/SUP] Beginning the season ranked #17 in the AP poll and #18 in the Coaches' Poll, the Tigers were denied a berth in the BCS National Championship Game because they finished the regular season ranked #3 in the BCS rankings. Head coach Tommy Tuberville, who was nearly fired after the 2003 season, was named national Coach of the Year by the Associated Press. This was Auburn's third undefeated season in which they played over ten games.
 
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Maroon Eagle

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From the same website, Auburn only claims two: Link.

Edit to add: 1957 and 2010.
 
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missouridawg

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This is a very interesting topic but it appears you completely failed at delivering.

Seriously, a look into the last 5-10 major schools with severe football sanctions and how their primary 2-3 rivals did in the following 3-5 years would be interesting data that this board would love, assuming you spell all words correctly.
 
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GhostOfJackie

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How can you win a national championship and still finish #2 in the BCS? I know it's highlighted pink for national champions, but this is Wikipedia that we're talking about. Not even Auburn claims that they won a natty that year.
 
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How can you win a national championship and still finish #2 in the BCS? I know it's highlighted pink for national champions, but this is Wikipedia that we're talking about. Not even Auburn claims that they won a natty that year.
I know, the only reason I thought it was correct was that USC vacated it, but it's odd that someone highlighted it must have been a fan, who was pissed about the 2004 season.
 
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I've offered to help them out. Apparently they are above that.
We actually have someone that edits the posts, which spelling wasn't an issue, a vacated National Championship was. Secondly, we don't make any money off of or website nor have we tried to so how would we pay someone that is a serious editor.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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Seriously^^ What is the deal with the site? I have seen MANY of us try to give them advice and yet they refuse to accept any of it.
 
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Seriously^^ What is the deal with the site? I have seen MANY of us try to give them advice and yet they refuse to accept any of it.
No, you don't give advice it's a disputed NC that caused this whole argument, and one I shouldn't have even posted on here, 2. I feel like the dumbest person on the planet, 3. The only advice I ever received was that you guys made high on the English portion of the ACT, and expect quality. 4. We only were trying to be a new alternative this isn't a business, it's a blog. We aren't SB Nation or FanSided where we can pay to have editors, we rely on volunteers, who actually have jobs.
 

engie

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If you need wikipedia to tell you what actually happened in the 2004 season, you really should consider writing about something different. All college football fans over 18 years of age are going to remember that, the second of the back-to-back hose jobs in National Title games that rewrote the BCS formula.
 

engie

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I know, the only reason I thought it was correct was that USC vacated it, but it's odd that someone highlighted it must have been a fan, who was pissed about the 2004 season.

A vacation is not a forfeit. USC lost the title -- no one else got it. Shouldn't attempt to be an authority on something without understanding the very basics of it.

No, you don't give advice it's a disputed NC that caused this whole argument

It is not and never has been a disputed NC.
 
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If you need wikipedia to tell you what actually happened in the 2004 season, you really should consider writing about something different. All college football fans over 18 years of age are going to remember that, the second of the back-to-back hose jobs in National Title games that rewrote the BCS formula.
Well, I'm 19, and I had no idea until I started writing this.
 
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I'm actually glad you guys absolutely destroy me because ED just agrees with everything I post. Lol if getting me to quit is the goal for you guys, it isn't going to happen I have thick skin, but argue my point when I've worked on something for a long time.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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Here's a suggestion - maybe DON'T use Wikipedia as a source.

Good luck in Comp I, I just gave you a head start.
 

engie

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You had an interesting article idea with potential. But you botched the execution. People here would have read that article had it been by well done/by a trusted source. Everyone here is going to hammer you until the content/your approach improves and you start to actually listen to honest advice when it's obvious to most of us you don't know very much about what you are doing. Personally, I question the judgement of anyone that sets out to start yet another MSU fan site at this point in time when there are literally dozens of them now and everyone already has established places to get their news on everything MSU. There is already information saturation on this stuff.

Instead of wasting time arguing with or explaining yourself and your thick skin to us, it would be more prudent to just let c34 or John Bond proofread/fact check these articles for you. They will catch most of the stuff you are being hammered for.
 

Maroon Eagle

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Yeah there are much better sources as I prefer not using wikipedia but it was at least accurate in my example-- not to mention I was on my iPhone and could do a quick google search as a demonstration to Widespreadz.
 

Maroon Eagle

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Here's the thing - it's NOT a disputed championship. USC was recognized as champions in all polls; however, as a result of their probation some (not all) of the same polls vacated their championship-- no other university has claimed any of those portions of the championship.
 
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