Another theory about the call

[msudawg200]

Maybe Hugh didn't redact the call because it was related to the job, and he feared legal issues if he redacted it (implying that it was personal when it wasn't). Obviously that would mean the call was for recruits. That might be one explanation. Thoughts?

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Nah. That's one number he wouldn't want associated with recruiting and it doesn't fit Occam's Razor about a simple explanation.

 

[tatedog]

I think it was an oversight plain and simple.

 

[patdog]

Yep. The "misdial" was that Freeze used his regular phone instead of his burner phone to make that call and never realized it. So he never even thought to check his regular phone records for calls to the escort service.

 

[MarkDallas]

So the reason that the media only had the one call, but Bjork was able to cite a "pattern of behavior" is that the rest of the calls were redacted when released but UM still has access to those records? Am I getting that right?

 

[thekimmer]

Yeah, no way it was intentional because the nature of the request was media contacts. But it does highlight a level of recklessness that helps explain how easy it was to nail the program for cheating.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

"I got two phones, one for the plug and one for the load. I got two phones, one for the escorts and one for the dough!"

 

[maroonmania]

Guess I would like to understand more about the redacting process. Who verifies that what is redacted is a personal call that has nothing to do with his job? I don't really understand why any call made on a state provided phone should be subject to redacting.

 

[tatedog]

I actually wondered the same thing myself, and this is the only thing that makes sense-- that or possibly under pressure Freeze just admitted stuff and then they had to make up a story to look like they did some investigating of their own. A possibly damning side note of this process is that it could fly directly against the narrative that Ole Miss was proactive in the investigation. Self investigation would include looking into all of Freeze's phone usage, which obviously wasn't done until now or the contents were concealed.

 

[EAVdog]

Maybe he got too deep into the 'Girlfriend Experience'. Just wanted to 'talk'. Which is equally pathetic.

 

[patdog]

Nutt's attorneys initially requested only 6 days of phone records. All they were looking for was calls to the media right before the media went with the Nutt under the bus stories. They've not subpoenaed all the phone records going back to the day Freeze was hired.

 

[MarkDallas]

Nutt's attorney initially requested only 6 days of phone records. All they were looking for was calls to the media right before the media went with the Nutt under the bus stories. They've not subpoenaed all the phone records going back to the day Freeze was hired.

Ok that makes sense.

 

[msstatelp1]

Guess I would like to understand more about the redacting process. Who verifies that what is redacted is a personal call that has nothing to do with his job? I don't really understand why any call made on a state provided phone should be subject to redacting.

Don't remember where I heard it but supposedly OM gets a list of personal phone numbers from Freeze (family, friends, etc). These numbers are entered into a program that automatically redacts them. All other numbers are then released. I don't think Freeze saw the complete list.

 

[birdawg]

I actually think they have subpoenaed all phone records since he was hired, but it was done after the initial call was discovered. So very recently and Nutt's attorneys probably dont have them in-hand yet.

 

[JackShephard]

The true story of the phone call

Maybe Hugh didn't redact the call because it was related to the job, and he feared legal issues if he redacted it (implying that it was personal when it wasn't). Obviously that would mean the call was for recruits. That might be one explanation. Thoughts?

I have this on good authority from soMeone high Up, reaLLy high, in thE athletic departmeNt.

On the night in question, Mullen, Leo, Kobe, Steve, Stricklin, and Pat Forde snuck over to the Beav's house. Forde pooped in a bag, Kobe lit the bag on fire, and Stricklin put it on Freeze's doorstep. Stricklin rang the doorbell and ran off. Leo kept watch, and gave the signal while Freeze stomped the bag and then dealt with the ensuing mess. Robertson used his criminal past to open a window for Mullen to use. In his haste due to seeing a fire on his porch, Freeze left his phone laying on the kitchen table. Mullen snuck through the window and dialed a prostitute. It took Freeze a full minute to get back to his phone and hang it up. Meanwhile, the NCAA was hiding in the bushes and jerking off.

True story.

 

[dawglawz]

That's my understanding. Nutt's counsel found the one, UM found a "pattern." That keeps getting lost in some articles and makes the "misdial" defense nonsense. Bjork and Vitter were very clear that he wasn't let go for that one call. It was a pattern. You can't have a pattern with one instance of malfeasance.

 

[AssEndDawg]

I have this on good authority from soMeone high Up, reaLLy high, in thE athletic departmeNt.

On the night in question, Mullen, Leo, Kobe, Steve, Stricklin, and Pat Forde snuck over to the Beav's house. Forde pooped in a bag, Kobe lit the bag on fire, and Stricklin put it on Freeze's doorstep. Stricklin rang the doorbell and ran off. Leo kept watch, and gave the signal while Freeze stomped the bag and then dealt with the ensuing mess. Robertson used his criminal past to open a window for Mullen to use. In his haste due to seeing a fire on his porch, Freeze left his phone laying on the kitchen table. Mullen snuck through the window and dialed a prostitute. It took Freeze a full minute to get back to his phone and hang it up. Meanwhile, the NCAA was hiding in the bushes and jerking off.

True story.

I heard this same thing, so it must be true!

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

Consider it this way...

The UMAD pulled the 6 days of phone records because he is required to do so. He gave them to Freeze with a Sharpie, and said redact any personal numbers. Freeze is standing there with a Sharpie and a decision to make.

1. If I redact that number, it draws attention to it. The AD will undoubtedly see the number and look it up. Now, I have to explain the number to my employer and why I chose to redact it.Obviously, I know what the number is since I redacted it.
2. If I don't redact it, maybe, just maybe, they won't look it up since they are really just looking for the reporters' numbers. If they do look it up, I can play dumb or claim misdial.

I'd go with #2, also. But he didn't count on Nutt's lawyer (through Rosebowl) catching the number and taking the next step; requesting all of his phone records. That's what didn't him in. Clearly, UMAD pulled all of his records and recognized "the pattern" of inappropriate behavior. I bet they still haven't surrendered the records to Nutt's lawyer, but they will be required to. It certainly will be interesting when they are made public, which is inevitable.

Of course, none of this will answer the question of for whom the escorts were intended.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

What about #1b. Redact the phone number and tell the AD that it was a misdial?