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NociHTTP

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Come to UK and become a supermax contract guy and perennial all-star in 5 years, or go to dook or Baylor and toil in obscurity. Hmmm such a difficult choice…
People claim that kids no longer play for the schools, but rather the coaches. What does that say if one doesn't sign with UK? Yes, we're doing GREAT this year, but we've stunk it up for awhile before that. You're correct in what you're saying, but I think it's more than that just about the money.
 

BobbyBlue32

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People claim that kids no longer play for the schools, but rather the coaches. What does that say if one doesn't sign with UK? Yes, we're doing GREAT this year, but we've stunk it up for awhile before that. You're correct in what you're saying, but I think it's more than that just about the money.
It’s says that the coach bringing in yet another elite class can’t recruit? LOL at the narrative. Kids pick school for numerous reasons, I guess that’s the reason that fits your agenda.
 

NociHTTP

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It’s says that the coach bringing in yet another elite class can’t recruit? LOL at the narrative. Kids pick school for numerous reasons, I guess that’s the reason that fits your agenda.
Are you suggesting that he forgot how to recruit at a high level there for several years? Do you think most kids want to play for UK instead of Cal? Just looking for your expert opinion on narratives and agendas. BTW, haven't seen you around in the game threads. Maybe you fold Cal's laundry and watch soap operas during games.
 

jrpross_rivals

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That's because Duke ducks and runs when going head to head with us where UK doesn't step back when challenging Duke

You really think Duke wouldn't sacrifice their left testicle for Reed Sheppard? Wagner? Come on my man.

Duke definitely doesn't duck and run when it comes to recruiting High School 5 stars. Duke however, does cast a smaller net, usually because they land anyone they recruit. Whereas Kentucky and Kansas cast a much larger net which means more misses.
But make no mistake about it, Duke has landed guys who they were not involved with at all and other schools like Kentucky were very involved with already. Zion being one, Banchero another.
I see both sides of this. Duke has absolutely beaten us for more recruits than we’ve beaten them for. But I agree with KAB cats that if Duke sees that Kentucky leads heavily for a recruit, they’ll back off. Cal won’t. If he thinks if he has a 10% chance with a kid, he’ll stick it out to the end. He’d rather get that 1/10. Duke (or coach K at least) would rather save face than lose out on the 9/10.
 

Toeriver

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Hope duke doesn't get the 7 foot 2 center from Africa, read he is visiting duke, kid is a stud.
 

Blueheart32

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Edgecombe is gonna potentially be huge get for you all. I really wanted him here. Cooper & edgecombe will be unreal duo in college
"Should" be. But we've seen these expectations can go before. I have been trying to learn to temper my expectations year to year, but it doesn't usually work.
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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"Should" be. But we've seen these expectations can go before. I have been trying to learn to temper my expectations year to year, but it doesn't usually work.
I can’t see that team next year struggling a lot, to much firepower and that’s not even considering returnees and transfer portal. I hope Kentucky goes all in Peterson. A fland Peterson and Sheppard backcourt would be filthy
 
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Blueheart32

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I can’t see that team next year struggling a lot, to much firepower and that’s not even considering returnees and transfer portal. I hope Kentucky goes all in Peterson. A fland Peterson and Sheppard backcourt would be filthy
Sheppherd coming back would be huge. I think you all will end up with Dybantsa too, although that's not until the following year.
 

bucsrule8872

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Losing Edgecombe hurts, but getting Sheppard back is the most important thing right now, when it comes to next year’s team.

If we don’t sign anyone else and get Sheppard back, we are a legit contender.

Shepppard makes everyone around him better. Put him out there with Fland, Thiero, Quaintance, and Onyenso, and we will compete for a title.

And I think we will add at least one more wing. I feel pretty good about Knox. If Cal really wants him, I think he is ours. I also think there is a good chance Jasper Johnson reclasses and plays here.

Sheppard, Johnson, Knox, Thiero, and Quaintance would be an amazing starting five for next season.

But Sheppard is the key to next season, IMHO.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Losing Edgecombe hurts, but getting Sheppard back is the most important thing right now, when it comes to next year’s team.

If we don’t sign anyone else and get Sheppard back, we are a legit contender.

Shepppard makes everyone around him better. Put him out there with Fland, Thiero, Quaintance, and Onyenso, and we will compete for a title.

And I think we will add at least one more wing. I feel pretty good about Knox. If Cal really wants him, I think he is ours. I also think there is a good chance Jasper Johnson reclasses and plays here.

Sheppard, Johnson, Knox, Thiero, and Quaintance would be an amazing starting five for next season.

But Sheppard is the key to next season, IMHO.
Sheppard coming back should be the number one concern but that team next year would need a pure scorer to add to the team. Peterson to me is that answer, he is bucket getter and would help a lot, and maybe even getting a grad transfer shooter like reeves or close to his level would help also
 
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bucsrule8872

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Sheppard coming back should be the number one concern but that team next year would need a pure scorer to add to the team. Peterson to me is that answer, he is bucket getter and would help a lot, and maybe even getting a grad transfer shooter like reeves or close to his level would help also
I agree we could use another scorer on the wing. Just don’t see us getting Peterson. Adidas pays the bills and I don’t think they will let him come here. Hope I am wrong. He would be ideal at the 2 spot for us. I think he ends up at KU just because he is Adidas’ golden goose.

More realistic is Jasper Johnson. He’s a Kentucky kid and a UK legacy. He would fit right in and would flourish alongside Sheppard. Peterson seems to be a notch above, but Johnson is a 5-star as well. He is no slouch.

I’m surprised Knox isn’t getting more love. He is a 5-star as well and I think he’s ours for the taking.
 

jrpross_rivals

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I agree we could use another scorer on the wing. Just don’t see us getting Peterson. Adidas pays the bills and I don’t think they will let him come here. Hope I am wrong. He would be ideal at the 2 spot for us. I think he ends up at KU just because he is Adidas’ golden goose.

More realistic is Jasper Johnson. He’s a Kentucky kid and a UK legacy. He would fit right in and would flourish alongside Sheppard. Peterson seems to be a notch above, but Johnson is a 5-star as well. He is no slouch.

I’m surprised Knox isn’t getting more love. He is a 5-star as well and I think he’s ours for the taking.
I think the general consensus is that Knox is nice but there are better options
 

Son_Of_Saul

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I agree we could use another scorer on the wing. Just don’t see us getting Peterson. Adidas pays the bills and I don’t think they will let him come here. Hope I am wrong. He would be ideal at the 2 spot for us. I think he ends up at KU just because he is Adidas’ golden goose.

More realistic is Jasper Johnson. He’s a Kentucky kid and a UK legacy. He would fit right in and would flourish alongside Sheppard. Peterson seems to be a notch above, but Johnson is a 5-star as well. He is no slouch.

I’m surprised Knox isn’t getting more love. He is a 5-star as well and I think he’s ours for the taking.
I like the thought of a UK backcourt that includes Sheppard, Fland, Johnson, and Perry; with Thiero/Knox/Burks at the 3/4; and Onyenso/Quaintance/Cyril down low.

Throw in at least one legit grad transfer at wing to help with the scoring load.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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you trolling or being serious
I think there's some uncertainty with the Duke faction in this because of how close they wanted to visit with him before his commitment Sunday night.

They are likely coming in to address any doubt that Baylor or UK placed in VJ's mind concerning minutes/roles/etc.

I actually still think Kentucky has a small shot. Cal visited VJ last weekend and I don't think he would have done that if they knew he was already set on Duke or Baylor.

I think he ends up at Duke, and perhaps UK can turn their attention to landing Knox and getting Johnson to reclassify.

A backcourt next season of Sheppard, Johnson, Fland, and Perry - plus a portal guard/wing - isn't the end of the world. Sheppard would be a NPOY candidate. Knox/Thiero/Burks at the 3/4 is also a solid trio. Quaintance would give us our elite frontcourt big man that we haven't had in a long time. Onyenso could be a SEC defensive player of the year candidate. Cyril offers a solid third big.

Add a wing from the portal and we're a top 10 team again. Obviously the key would be to get Sheppard back for a sophomore season, but I think that's doable.

G - Sheppard - Fland - Perry
G - Johnson (reclass) - Transfer portal wing - Fland - Perry - Hart
G - Knox - Richmond - Burks - Hart
F - Thiero - Burks - Quaintance
C - Quaintance - Onyenso - Cyril
 
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SkyPrince1

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I think there's some uncertainty with the Duke faction in this because of how close they wanted to visit with him before his commitment Sunday night.

They are likely coming in to address any doubt that Baylor or UK placed in VJ's mind concerning minutes/roles/etc.

I actually still think Kentucky has a small shot. Cal visited VJ last weekend and I don't think he would have done that if they knew he was already set on Duke or Baylor.

I think he ends up at Duke, and perhaps UK can turn their attention to landing Knox and getting Johnson to reclassify.

A backcourt next season of Sheppard, Johnson, Fland, and Perry - plus a portal guard/wing - isn't the end of the world. Sheppard would be a NPOY candidate. Knox/Thiero/Burks at the 3/4 is also a solid trio. Quaintance would give us our elite frontcourt big man that we haven't had in a long time. Onyenso could be a SEC defensive player of the year candidate. Cyril offers a solid third big.

Add a wing from the portal and we're a top 10 team again. Obviously the key would be to get Sheppard back for a sophomore season, but I think that's doable.

G - Sheppard - Fland - Perry
G - Johnson (reclass) - Fland - Perry - Hart
G - transfer portal wing - Knox - Burks - Hart
F - Thiero - Burks - Quaintance
C - Quaintance - Onyenso - Cyril
You forgot Richmond.
Also I hope JJ stays in '25.
He will be a year older plus the number of covid players will drop drastically for the '25-'26 season.
You would have had to sit out the '20-'21 season or have a medical waiver.
Just more of a chance JJ can come in and be dominant from day one.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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You forgot Richmond.
Also I hope JJ stays in '25.
He will be a year older plus the number of covid players will drop drastically for the '25-'26 season.
You would have had to sit out the '20-'21 season or have a medical waiver.
Just more of a chance JJ can come in and be dominant from day one.
Scoring could be a major issue next year if Sheppard leaves for the NBA. Cal does his best work with elite freshmen, and that's why I'm still holding on hope for Edegcombe.

Good catch on Richmond, by the way. I edited the post.
 

Padsfs07

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Sheppard, Johnson, Knox, Thiero, and Quaintance would be an amazing starting five for next season.

But Sheppard is the key to next season, IMHO.

I don't think Johnson would start over Fland. It would be a good problem to have though, similar to this year, but two of those haven't made up their minds yet, and we'd be waiting on an NBA decision.
 

RunninRichie

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Drew is killing it. He’s now starting to get 5 star guys and getting them into the league. Gotta be 1st call after Cal retirees.
 

bucsrule8872

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I think there's some uncertainty with the Duke faction in this because of how close they wanted to visit with him before his commitment Sunday night.

They are likely coming in to address any doubt that Baylor or UK placed in VJ's mind concerning minutes/roles/etc.

I actually still think Kentucky has a small shot. Cal visited VJ last weekend and I don't think he would have done that if they knew he was already set on Duke or Baylor.

I think he ends up at Duke, and perhaps UK can turn their attention to landing Knox and getting Johnson to reclassify.

A backcourt next season of Sheppard, Johnson, Fland, and Perry - plus a portal guard/wing - isn't the end of the world. Sheppard would be a NPOY candidate. Knox/Thiero/Burks at the 3/4 is also a solid trio. Quaintance would give us our elite frontcourt big man that we haven't had in a long time. Onyenso could be a SEC defensive player of the year candidate. Cyril offers a solid third big.

Add a wing from the portal and we're a top 10 team again. Obviously the key would be to get Sheppard back for a sophomore season, but I think that's doable.

G - Sheppard - Fland - Perry
G - Johnson (reclass) - Transfer portal wing - Fland - Perry - Hart
G - Knox - Richmond - Burks - Hart
F - Thiero - Burks - Quaintance
C - Quaintance - Onyenso - Cyril
Not sure we need the grad transfer guard.

Won’t be enough minutes for a transfer, if we get Johnson and Knox.

Other than that, it looks like what I expect as well.
 
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