Summer OT: The coming tv show Confederates..

[Xenomorph]

As a Southerner I really wish this wasn't happening. I can only imagine the stereotypes they're going to present. In fact, I don't think it's good for our country as a whole.

But I guess I'm hypocritical.. Because I really like The Man in The High Castle so maybe it serves me right.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/thrones-creators-plan-confederate-series/

 

[Maroon Eagle]

When I heard about it, the first thing I thought about was this mockumentary I saw several years ago at the Crossroads Film Festival: Link. The next thing I wondered was if Harry Turtledove was going to be involved somehow. Man in the High Castle came to mind after that.

 

[Shamoan]

the concept of the show is kind of absurd really. slavery would have died eventually in the US. Brazil, one of, if not the largest slave markets, was the last "new world" slavery hold-outs officially abolishing slavery in 1888.

 

[00Dawg]

I'd rather see a Turtledove-esque take. Certainly his Great War timeline would be more plausible than where it appears HBO is heading.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Lots of Reb fans fapping over this show.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

If they approach it like Man in the High Castle, it has great potential.

Part of what makes MitHC so great is how it portrays real people on both sides - there were good and bad people within the Japanese Empire and the Nazis. Benioff and Weiss had success with that in GoT as well.

I'm pretty excited to see it, I love alternate reality/history shows.

 

[Xenomorph]

There is literally 1 good Japanese character and 1 good Nazi. That's how the CSA will be portrayed.

 

[EngDawg]

Lots of Reb fans fapping over this show.

Old times there are not forgotten

 

[Hump4Hoops]

You could argue that

both Smith and his wife were or became goodish. You also have Joe Blake, and the one that almost assassinated Hitler. At the very least you had several complex characters that weren't just 1 dimensional "bad." As for the Japanese, you have Tagomi, and I think one of the guys that works for him (a bit fuzzy). Oh and Tagomi's son, that you see a lot more of on the other side.

However, I fully expect the Confederates to be, for the most part, the baddies in this show. For good reason.

 

[Xenomorph]

Yep.. Joe Blake and Tagomi.. Those are the "good" characters. Smith is conflicted now that they supposedly? killed his son.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

There is literally 1 good Japanese character and 1 good Nazi. That's how the CSA will be portrayed.

Is that a problem? There were certainly good individuals living in the South at the time (not slaveowners obviously) but the creating a new country for the explicit purpose of maintaining slavery (it's spelled put directly in the secession notices) makes the Confederacy the obvious villain in the story.

Anyhow, I have high hopes for the show. HBO always puts out good, high-quality stuff, and the concept is really cool.

 

[Dawg1979]

i would rather the show be dated some time after the civil war, maybe 1900 instead of present day, or future.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Reckon how many actual rebel soldiers didn't even own a slave, I'd feel safe in saying 75-85% did not. Y'all ever saw the old movie Journey to Shiloh. One of James Caan's earliest movies. These 5-6 brothers from Texas leave to join the rebel forces at Corinth, yet they'd never seen a slave until they got to Vicksburg, they just didn't want Yankees invading the south. Only one makes it home. Y'all that are 40ish and above probably watched the mini-series but speaking of good and bad on each side, John Jakes North and South followed by Love and War paint great pictures of that era. The aforementioned series North and South I believe is still the most watched mini-series of all time staring Patrick Swayze and James Read.

 

[GloryDawg]

This concept has been around for a while. I have all 12 of the original issues. I have never read them. Looked different so I bought them back in the 80's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Confederacy

Here is a book that I did read and it was fairly enjoyable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guns_of_the_South