When did the NCAA become so corrupt?

icouldjustpuke

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According to the Rebs the NCAA fought for truth, justice, and the American way during the investigation into MSU and Sherrill. Now they are, and always have been a crooked entity . Did they turn their backs on the NCAA when the investigators quit playing hide the salami with boosters? Were they secretly in our corner when we were being investigated? What gives?
 

BiscuitEater

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The NCAA has become a huge multi-billion dollar bureaucracy. Anybody that has worked in the US Government totally understands. Bucky made it 'personal' in their very first meeting .. and the NCAA is pushing back. Hard.

Somebody in another thread described it perfectly. Speed limit is 65. Most schools are out there going 68-72. Ole Miss decided it could get away with going 120 while flashing the 'bird' to smoky and the other drivers. Smoky is okay with everybody 'going with the flow' BUT can't have someone blatantly breaking the rules

Agree with OM posters when they say .. "Everybody out there is cheating!!" Yea .. but everybody is not out there doing 120 and pi$$ing off the other drivers!
 

coach66

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Yep, you won't see it put much better than this because this is exactly why they

find themselves where they are today.
 

Tin Cup Cowboy

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Best example I've see so far Biscuit.

It's quite simple - the NCAA has to put forth the appearance of amateurism. No matter which side you find yourself on in that debate, their one job is to insure amateurism stays in place and the money stays where it is now.
 

Shmuley

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They are doing 120 in a 1961 Biscayne with a stolen LS1/480LE combo and a "Forget? HELL!" bumper sticker on the back. In the backseat are a couple of suitcases full of cash. One has a "Property of the University of Alabama" tag and the other has "Property of University of Georgia." Djork's driving. Beaver is shotgun. Vitter is asleep on the back window deck. Analogy complete.
 

Dawgg

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This is misleading and inaccurate.

To my knowledge, UNC, Duke, WF, & ECU will still play home games this year unless you have some information I don't.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I believe this refers to championship and post season play.(and such).

Hosting, but that did not hold true in Baseball, not this season anyway, so???
 

patdog

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It's not that misleading. They have moved scheduled tournaments out of North Carolina. Just the fact they would sanction anything in Cuba and China while at the same time boycotting North Carolina for anything is the height of hypocrisy.
 

DAWG61

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What's to ponder? That you can't understand why the NCAA isn't going to speak for all of USA against China?
 

QuaoarsKing

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Basketball games.

Not that I support the NCAA boycotting states, especially events in pro-LGBTQ arenas in pro-LGBTQ cities in states that overwhelmingly oppose the laws in question...

But it's pretty unfair to compare official NCAA championship events to "one time Georgetown played some exhibition games in China..."
 

archdog

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It's not that misleading. They have moved scheduled tournaments out of North Carolina. Just the fact they would sanction anything in Cuba and China while at the same time boycotting North Carolina for anything is the height of hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy, yes. Height of Hypocrisy in this world of political hypocrisy, no. Understandable in their (NCAA) decision, yes. The perception here is that we "As Americans" can strive to be better once that habit of being racist douchebags is put under strain by an outside force such as the NCAA boycotting NC when possible to force them to understand their actions are not appropriate to the organization. Is it the place for the NCAA to have this power over schools and regions, well yes. It is an volunteer member organization. UNC can leave the NCAA whenever they want, or they can change behavior to meet the new requirements. Its up to them.

If NC had the market advantage that China has, then maybe they could force the NCAA to rethink their priorities. That seems like a pretty clear cut free market issue to me. If the market allowed, then NC would have a leg to stand on in these situations. As it is right now, they don't. Also a free market biproduct.
 

Dawgg

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It's not that misleading. They have moved scheduled tournaments out of North Carolina. Just the fact they would sanction anything in Cuba and China while at the same time boycotting North Carolina for anything is the height of hypocrisy.

You're (intentionally?) conflating the NCAA, the conferences, and their member institutions as one entity. The NCAA is not sponsoring anything in Cuba or China. There was literally never a single activity that the NCAA allowed in China or Cuba that they don't allow in North Carolina, so yes, it's misleading.

For Cuba, the individuals schools (Louisville and Bowling Green) took their women's basketball teams' 1 per 4 years foreign trips to Cuba for exhibition play against the Cuban National teams. No 'official' NCAA wins or losses occurred. It was essentially a series of practices that occurred in Cuba.

For China, the Pac-12 sponsored the games between Washington-Texas and Stanford-Harvard, not the NCAA. It's not like they held the NIT there.

The NCAA prevented none of the following from happening in North Carolina:
1. Home games in any sport.
2. Bowl games. (Belk Bowl is alive as long as the ACC & SEC agree to play.)
3. Conference championships. (Before you start, that was the ACC, not the NCAA.)
4. Conference events.
5. Home Regionals earned (not pre-selected)

If any of those were being blocked by the NCAA (and not the member institutions or conferences), you might have had a point.
It's moot anyway since HB2 was quasi-repealed enough to appease the NCAA.
 

KurtRambis4

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Not really. If you're

going to stand for something in one instance, you can't sit there and say "oh well this is just a small, one-time event, it's ok!"
 
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