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I must need new reading glasses cause I can't make half of that out.
Ole Gossip Girl is putting in the OT it seems. That's Rebel Bruiser length propaganda.
Ole Gossip Girl is putting in the OT it seems. That's Rebel Bruiser length propaganda.
The February chicago tweet conspiracy stretch is something of beauty really and it's the main part of his theory
I've gotten high a few times in my life....
just a few....and every time i could imagine some bat **** crazy conspiracy story like this.....
i would have one question for yancy......who tells him all this information? someone who works for the ole miss AD? if so....then we know its complete bull ****....they have been lying to him since this whole thing started....he is their propaganda boy...
what a waste.....
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just a few....and every time i could imagine some bat **** crazy conspiracy story like this.....
i would have one question for yancy......who tells him all this information? someone who works for the ole miss AD? if so....then we know its complete bull ****....they have been lying to him since this whole thing started....he is their propaganda boy...
what a waste.....
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I like how "NCAA requirements" mean that UM didn't have to release the NOA when they received it before their big recruiting weekend. At some point I'd like to see UM constituents advocating a return to responsibility and adult decision-making. Did they have to release it? No. Should they have? Yes. Why? Because those are young men's lives they were playing with.
If UM does the right thing and is even close to honest with everyone, this isn't nearly as big of a deal. It's like Hillary and the Russians: if you didn't do dirty stuff to begin with, or if you cop to it when the rumors start to come out, there's nothing for other people to release and then no extra blow back from a cover up.
If UM does the right thing and is even close to honest with everyone, this isn't nearly as big of a deal. It's like Hillary and the Russians: if you didn't do dirty stuff to begin with, or if you cop to it when the rumors start to come out, there's nothing for other people to release and then no extra blow back from a cover up.
The double standard with regards to leaking information is what is so hilarious to me. The NCAA is corrupt and biased for leaking that the NOA had been received a few days after they sent it to UM... But the same people who take that stance have zero problem with UM leaking out misleading information about what was in the NOA, and then lying to a bunch of 17/18 year olds about it a week before making the biggest decision of their lives up to that point.
I was talking with a friend about this a few days ago. Outside of certain extreme cases (Baylor, Penn State, etc.), UM using the media and lying to the recruits before signing day like they did is one of the most blatantly sickening and morally reprehensible things I've ever seen in college athletics. They knew what was in that document. They knew what they were putting out was a lie. I'm utterly shocked UM did not get more blow back from it. If we did that, the CL would be all over us- and deservedly so... But since it was UM, the CL turned around and said "thank you sir, may I have another?"
I was talking with a friend about this a few days ago. Outside of certain extreme cases (Baylor, Penn State, etc.), UM using the media and lying to the recruits before signing day like they did is one of the most blatantly sickening and morally reprehensible things I've ever seen in college athletics. They knew what was in that document. They knew what they were putting out was a lie. I'm utterly shocked UM did not get more blow back from it. If we did that, the CL would be all over us- and deservedly so... But since it was UM, the CL turned around and said "thank you sir, may I have another?"
It must be exhausting coming up with phrases like "we have not verified this" and "this floating rumor" to CYA when the guesswork falls apart.
How exactly do you "file a motion" with the NCAA? This isn't Matlock.
Oh and here's another possibility Yancy: Somebody at Ole Miss leaked the information to Forde to make just such a claim of some sort of conspiracy against Ole Miss. All of the above named theories, including mine, are equally impossible to prove and you are basically asking the NCAA to find itself guilty of misdoings. If I were you I'd double up on the Xanax.
Oh and here's another possibility Yancy: Somebody at Ole Miss leaked the information to Forde to make just such a claim of some sort of conspiracy against Ole Miss. All of the above named theories, including mine, are equally impossible to prove and you are basically asking the NCAA to find itself guilty of misdoings. If I were you I'd double up on the Xanax.
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Yancy's dumb *** and his flock should click this
http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/enforcement-process-hearings
Are witnesses called during a hearing?
No. The committee may ask questions of involved individuals at the hearing and may also inquire about information reported by witnesses or developed by the enforcement staff, institution or involved individuals. However, witnesses are not summoned.
http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/enforcement-process-hearings
Are witnesses called during a hearing?
No. The committee may ask questions of involved individuals at the hearing and may also inquire about information reported by witnesses or developed by the enforcement staff, institution or involved individuals. However, witnesses are not summoned.
This can't be real. It doesn't discuss when Ole Miss lawyers get to file motions and cross examine witnesses.
This reads like a Seinfeld episode.
"Kobe was called to the witness stand on August 13. Leo went to Wendy's to have lunch (he ordered a cheeseburger off the dollar menu plus value fries), then was interviewed by NCAA investigators at 12:27 on Wednesday September 3rd.
...then the Laremy texts happened, yada yada yada, nothing to see there...
but then KOBE was interviewed aGAIN on September 4th, right after he had been to Taco Bell and had 2 Doritos Locos Tacos. But this time he ordered them WITH sour cream, so that proves it was all a setup by Steve, Pat Forde, Dan Mullen and L. Ron Hubbard."
"Kobe was called to the witness stand on August 13. Leo went to Wendy's to have lunch (he ordered a cheeseburger off the dollar menu plus value fries), then was interviewed by NCAA investigators at 12:27 on Wednesday September 3rd.
...then the Laremy texts happened, yada yada yada, nothing to see there...
but then KOBE was interviewed aGAIN on September 4th, right after he had been to Taco Bell and had 2 Doritos Locos Tacos. But this time he ordered them WITH sour cream, so that proves it was all a setup by Steve, Pat Forde, Dan Mullen and L. Ron Hubbard."
I saw another post somewhere that there is an NCAA rule that states.... paraphrasing now... a school must provide accurate information to a recruit to give them the opportunity to make the best decision for themselves.
Seems like tsun missed this in the rule book.
Seems like tsun missed this in the rule book.
I read the NOA and Ole Miss' response yesterday. Of course I couldn't read the attachment with the evidence for each allegation due to the fact that's protected on the NCAA website and holds all of the information that the investigators drew their conclusions from.
The most glaring problems OM faces are these:
1. In the allegations naming Freeze, it was pointed out that he stated he asked his compliance dept about a video made of recruits. The NOA states om's compliance department didn't know of that request. That speaks to his credibility and whether he was actively trying to monitor.
2. The problems with their handling the entire recruitment of SA39. Freeze Spoke with him when he knew he shouldn't have at a game. There are numerous times sa39 had contact with boosters and Barney. The dollar amounts. The RR issue is serious, but defending yourself by saying the booster has no record of a card being swiped and no record of a sale is, well, asinine. Of course there isn't a record.
The one thing I do say could help mitigate individual penalties is that there are so many serious ones that the COI could extend an olive leaf and throw one out and not make a dent in the penalties. Sort of a consolation prize.
That said, the credibility of sa39,40 and stepdad are only in question in om's eyes. Not in the ncaa's. That ship sailed. Om didn't respond with much of any evidence that reverses the enforcement staffs conclusions. Sure, it calls them into question. But that isn't the standard. The COI looks at the totality of the investigation and penalizes.
Freeze, Kiffin, Farrar are not getting off on technicalities. After reading allegation 21, I'm wondering if Bjork survives.
The most glaring problems OM faces are these:
1. In the allegations naming Freeze, it was pointed out that he stated he asked his compliance dept about a video made of recruits. The NOA states om's compliance department didn't know of that request. That speaks to his credibility and whether he was actively trying to monitor.
2. The problems with their handling the entire recruitment of SA39. Freeze Spoke with him when he knew he shouldn't have at a game. There are numerous times sa39 had contact with boosters and Barney. The dollar amounts. The RR issue is serious, but defending yourself by saying the booster has no record of a card being swiped and no record of a sale is, well, asinine. Of course there isn't a record.
The one thing I do say could help mitigate individual penalties is that there are so many serious ones that the COI could extend an olive leaf and throw one out and not make a dent in the penalties. Sort of a consolation prize.
That said, the credibility of sa39,40 and stepdad are only in question in om's eyes. Not in the ncaa's. That ship sailed. Om didn't respond with much of any evidence that reverses the enforcement staffs conclusions. Sure, it calls them into question. But that isn't the standard. The COI looks at the totality of the investigation and penalizes.
Freeze, Kiffin, Farrar are not getting off on technicalities. After reading allegation 21, I'm wondering if Bjork survives.
If the NCAA backs off on anything, they lose. This case is their way of telling all the other schools that we will hammer you to the ground if we catch you cheating . Letting OM slide on anything that they have proof for will lopen the door for "special circumstances" at other places.
You are correct IF the penalties aren't indicative of the penalty structure they forwarded.
The thing is that it doesn't dictate how the COI comes to its conclusions regarding penalties. The COI can put more weight on postseason play, length of show cause, recruiting visits, scholarships per year, vacating contests, yes TV can be regulated to close circuit, and the whopper: elimination of contests.
Whatever they decide will be be the new measuring stick for sure.
Yancy totally thinks this is Matlock.
They're going to get Leo under oath at the NCAA grand jury testimony hearing, trick him into incriminating himself, and the NCAA will drop all charges against ole miss and transfer them to MSU, and send Leo to jail.
They're going to get Leo under oath at the NCAA grand jury testimony hearing, trick him into incriminating himself, and the NCAA will drop all charges against ole miss and transfer them to MSU, and send Leo to jail.
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Maybe it's just the instigator in me, but I'm ready to see Steve and Yancy stop with all the back and forth jabs that have no real meaning. Let's put some skin in the game. Both should take a stance on the NCAA penalties applied to OM and the loser has to delete Twitter for a year (not just their account, but Twitter entirely). Yancy clearly thinks that the penalties hinge on the LL and KJ testimonies, and he thinks they lied, so his stance would be that the NCAA accepts the self-imposed penalties. Steve's stance is that the penalties will be worse. I know Yancy would never agree to something like this, but seriously, it's time to quit with all the "floating rumor" ******** and give some regular answers about we settle this Twitter beef.
I like it when OM fans say the NCAA is just out to get them.
I'm like hell yeah they are, y'all had some egregious infractions. It's part their job to go after violators.
I'm like hell yeah they are, y'all had some egregious infractions. It's part their job to go after violators.
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