It's killing us and this is something pro om legislators should be able to get behind. The law is antiquated and puts our in-state schools at a serious recruiting disadvantage. We have one of the largest gaming states in the nation....what's the freaking problem?
It's time to end the lottery advantage
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TOPS is constantly getting cut more and more in Louisiana. I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone in 10 years.
If that was the reason, then there wouldn't be casinos either. The casinos kick back a ton of money to make sure there isn't s lotto.
I caught a thread on one of the Tigerdroppings boards a while back where they were saying it might be gone in the next 2-3 years.
Well that's just not true.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/06/louisiana_senate_passes_budget.html
Maybe good for our baseball team
But bad for Mississippi. Mississippians are better off without it.
But bad for Mississippi. Mississippians are better off without it.
Why is MS better off without it? 44 state have the lottery currently. How has it hurt their states?
It takes more money out of the public's hand and goes to the government. Small businesses take the biggest hit.
I have almost gotten to the point that MS needs to do the exact opposite of what they have been doing in about 75% of the things they do. However, that probably wouldn't help either.
I'm not against the lottery, but if Mississippi did start/join one, that money would likely go into the general fund and not go to paying for college tuition, so it wouldn't help our baseball team anyway. That's just my guess by what happened with casino money, and I've never heard a TOPS-type program mentioned for Mississippi anywhere other than on sports message boards during baseball season. Even if lottery money did go to education, they'd put it into public elementary and high schools (and probably should).
If State was serious about funding scholarships for baseball money, we could easily create a scholarship fund and have 51% of it to regular students and 49% to baseball players. MSU donors have given tens of millions of dollars for facilities over the past several years, so we could fund it.
If State was serious about funding scholarships for baseball money, we could easily create a scholarship fund and have 51% of it to regular students and 49% to baseball players. MSU donors have given tens of millions of dollars for facilities over the past several years, so we could fund it.
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The governor has already gone on record that he wants the lottery to fund roads and bridges. I'm for a lottery, but our population base isn't going to bring in the revenues many think, and it will just disappear into the general fund.
The governor has already gone on record that he wants the lottery to fund roads and bridges. I'm for a lottery, but our population base isn't going to bring in the revenues many think, and it will just disappear into the general fund.
That's due to the fact that 99% of their fanbase doesn't even know they participate in sports not involving the pigskin. They suck bc they don't care.
This is a Senate budget, for one year. While it makes temporary appropriation for the potential political football that is the TOPS program, it does not speak for the long term viability of it. No party on Baton Rouge wants to be associated with killing it. I presume the State will kick the can every year, but reduce the percentage of scholarship coverage, on the basis of state funds.
The amount of gas stations on the TN/MS State line is staggering. TN makes bank off of the lack of a lottery in MS.
The biggest fight would be over where the $ goes
As mentioned already, the Gov wants it to go to roads and bridges, k-12 wants it all, and others have said send it to the general fund. No mention about a scholarship program
As mentioned already, the Gov wants it to go to roads and bridges, k-12 wants it all, and others have said send it to the general fund. No mention about a scholarship program
Don't forget the Choctaws want to open a Casino in Carthage right on Hwy 25 too and will get it done. It's right where The Hitching Post/Mexican Restaurant used to be.
The lottery advantage is just as overrated as the nice stadium advantage at the end of the day. Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Tennessee prove this.
At the end of the day you have to have a coach that can identify talent and bring it in to use the advantages you have. LSU had Cann to identify talent and bring it in. Georgia and Tennessee did not. And LSU didn't have it when Smoke Laval was their coach and they were average.
Same with Vanderbilt- they had a pitching coach named Derek Johnson who had a similar background as Cann and was able to bring in a lot of high end arms. Ever since he left for pro baseball Vandy has started to slowly decline. Florida also has assistant coaches with similar scouting/pro backgrounds as well.
If we were going to address this issue, the time to do it was 15 years ago
I think that our coaches have figured out how to make the scholarships work consistently with some combination of academic schollie & possibly financial aid. I have never heard Cohen mention it as a big recruiting disadvantage.
I think that our coaches have figured out how to make the scholarships work consistently with some combination of academic schollie & possibly financial aid. I have never heard Cohen mention it as a big recruiting disadvantage.
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But convenience stores make between 30-40% off of normal sales. They make about 1% on lottery sales. Those aren't new dollars coming in, they will replace the dollars that were already spent (yes there will be marginal increases during stupid high jackpots, but that will be the exception). So a lot of the money that was in play in local communities gets sucked out. Please buy an economics and a history text book. Let me know how this formula works out. And as another posted pointed out, it won't have much affect on baseball, if any.
But convenience stores make between 30-40% off of normal sales. They make about 1% on lottery sales. Those aren't new dollars coming in, they will replace the dollars that were already spent (yes there will be marginal increases during stupid high jackpots, but that will be the exception). So a lot of the money that was in play in local communities gets sucked out. Please buy an economics and a history text book. Let me know how this formula works out. And as another posted pointed out, it won't have much affect on baseball, if any.
At one time years ago the tax on liquor was supposed to go to help fund education but the legislator changed that. Same was supposed to happen with casino tax revenue but once again our esteemed electors decided to put the money into the general fund. Don't count upon this group on dimwits we call a legislature to do any thing to help fund our already pitiful educational system, at the local or university level. Look for them to find new and creative ways to siphon off our tax dollars and give it to whatever special interest has given them the most money for their re-election. As one of them said so eloquently said not long ago, "I could care less what you think."
Not for all adults, they just passed that. http://wkms.org/post/first-state-offer-free-community-college-nearly-every-adult
I really don't care where it goes outside of baseball Scholarships and any taxpayer that thinks is being spent wisely is fooling themselves. MDOT is crooked as a barrel of snakes and lose 10 million a year on average (10 years ago) in ******/bogus surveys in the bridge division alone. I know this because my dad worked as a civil engineer there for 35 years and fought his later career to put an end to it. If a politician is designating money to roads and bridges, you can guarantee he is getting a substantial cut.
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